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Tim Thomas

Posted a comment about this in the "Around the NHL" thread, but not sure how many of you look through it.

Just wondering, if you guys would be "all in" on signing Thomas this off-season to say a two-year deal or if you would be completely against it.

The way I see it is that Marty could help convince Tim to join him in Tampa and he could be a good stop gap until Vasilevski's ready. Also, he could help mentor Lindback and he's old enough that Lindback should still see 40% of the starts, while also giving Lindy more time to develop and refine his game.

What do you all think?

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Posted a comment about this in the "Around the NHL" thread, but not sure how many of you look through it.

Just wondering, if you guys would be "all in" on signing Thomas this off-season to say a two-year deal or if you would be completely against it.

The way I see it is that Marty could help convince Tim to join him in Tampa and he could be a good stop gap until Vasilevski's ready. Also, he could help mentor Lindback and he's old enough that Lindback should still see 40% of the starts, while also giving Lindy more time to develop and refine his game.

What do you all think?
I don't think he'd be very good. Older guy and hasn't played in a year. Plus he has attitude problems

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I would take him over Garon. I think he still has a lot in the tank.

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I don't think he'd be very good. Older guy and hasn't played in a year. Plus he has attitude problems
Really? He's only one year removed from being an elite goalie in this league. I can guarantee that we'll be looking to be competitive next year and will be looking to make the playoffs in order to keep the interest of fans, as well as matching the ambitions of our players.

The alternative would be to pin all our hopes on Lindy, but I'm not convinced he's ready yet or can stay healthy over an entire season. Plus, Tim would cost us nothing but money on a short-term deal.

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Really? He's only one year removed from being an elite goalie in this league. I can guarantee that we'll be looking to be competitive next year and will be looking to make the playoffs in order to keep the interest of fans, as well as matching the ambitions of our players.

The alternative would be to pin all our hopes on Lindy, but I'm not convinced he's ready yet or can stay healthy over an entire season. Plus, Tim would cost us nothing but money on a short-term deal.
Stop saying Lindy. Its like Beetlejuice. You say "Lindy" enough times and the wrong one is going to appear.

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Don't know why this was never brought up before here, it's not a bad idea, if we can sign Thomas to a low risk 2 year deal why not? Sure as hell beats taking on half decent 5+million dollar goalies from other threads.

If Thomas is on his game, we're cup contenders, if not, at worst he becomes a backup and Lindback gets more starting time. However I doubt Thomas will slip that far behind if he does decide to come back.

Marty-Thomas would be a great story also.

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I wouldn't do 2 years on him. I would do 1 year and see what happens. With his age and primadona republican beliefs, 1 year is the most you can expect him to stay.

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Don't know why this was never brought up before here, it's not a bad idea, if we can sign Thomas to a low risk 2 year deal why not? Sure as hell beats taking on half decent 5+million dollar goalies from other threads.

If Thomas is on his game, we're cup contenders, if not, at worst he becomes a backup and Lindback gets more starting time. However I doubt Thomas will slip that far behind if he does decide to come back.

Marty-Thomas would be a great story also.
My thinking exactly! We're currently stocking up one of the best and deepest prospect cupboards in the league, why sacrifice pieces we already have and/or ones we could get (future picks) for a goaltender when we have Vasilevski in the system?

Thomas was an elite goaltender before his one year hiatus, would not cost us anything besides money in a contract, is really good friends with Marty and he's a veteran leader who can be a stabilizing presence in net. Seems like a perfect stop gap solution for our team .

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Don't know why this was never brought up before here, it's not a bad idea, if we can sign Thomas to a low risk 2 year deal why not? Sure as hell beats taking on half decent 5+million dollar goalies from other threads.

If Thomas is on his game, we're cup contenders, if not, at worst he becomes a backup and Lindback gets more starting time. However I doubt Thomas will slip that far behind if he does decide to come back.

Marty-Thomas would be a great story also.
Actually, given his history with Marty and Rask making him expendable for the Bruins, bringing in Thomas has always been a topic around here - until he announced that he would take the year off.

That said, he's now 38 and hasn't played all season long. I'm not as sold on him as I was maybe a year ago.

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Just a random thought, but what if Marty convinced Tim Thomas to join the Lightning for the next two years this summer? He's a year removed from being an elite goalie and he'd be the perfect stop gap until Vasilevski's ready. Also, he's old enough that he'll need Lindback to play 40% of the games and would allow him more time to develop and refine his game.
Nooooo. He's a gazillion years old. One does not simply take two seasons off and come back and be elite. Especially at that age.

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Doubt he would come to Florida as state went for Obama in last election, and water table too near the surface to make an underground shelter practical.

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Actually, given his history with Marty and Rask making him expendable for the Bruins, bringing in Thomas has always been a topic around here - until he announced that he would take the year off.

That said, he's now 38 and hasn't played all season long. I'm not as sold on him as I was maybe a year ago.
This is a valid concern, but I'm not comfortable going into next season with Lindback as our #1 again (injury history and inconsistency this year). Are you?

Thomas strikes me as the best alternative in FA as a stop-gap solution, due to the elite level he was at a year ago and his frienship with Marty. We could also look at Backstrom, but I feel as though Minny will re-sign him or that he'll be looking for a slightly longer deal than say Thomas (maybe three years?).

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Nooooo. He's a gazillion years old. One does not simply take two seasons off and come back and be elite. Especially at that age.
When did Thomas take two seasons off? This comes as news to me.

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When did Thomas take two seasons off? This comes as news to me.
Ok, season and a half. Last and this.

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This is a valid concern, but I'm not comfortable going into next season with Lindback as our #1 again (injury history and inconsistency this year). Are you?

Thomas strikes me as the best alternative in FA as a stop-gap solution, due to the elite level he was at a year ago and his frienship with Marty. We could also look at Backstrom, but I feel as though Minny will re-sign him or that he'll be looking for a slightly longer deal than say Thomas (maybe three years?).
No, I'm with you there. I just doubt that yet another old goalie is the solution to our unending goaltending problem. Especially when he hasn't played a single game all year long and went out the way he did.

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This is a valid concern, but I'm not comfortable going into next season with Lindback as our #1 again (injury history and inconsistency this year). Are you?

Thomas strikes me as the best alternative in FA as a stop-gap solution, due to the elite level he was at a year ago and his frienship with Marty. We could also look at Backstrom, but I feel as though Minny will re-sign him or that he'll be looking for a slightly longer deal than say Thomas (maybe three years?).
If Thomas has kept in shape and seems ready to play, sign him to a 1 year deal for 2-3 million. If not let Lindback take the reigns with Garon or another veteran as backup. I like Lindback's potential, but with a young goalie you've gotta give him games. Boucher refused to ride him when he started to pick it up and then got an ankle sprain. Hopefully Coop is better with that

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I believe the islanders hold his rights even after this season as he didn't play and hasn't filed retirement paperwork. They can keep him on the inactive roster, not pay him and keep the caphit. We'd have to trade for him and he went for a 2nd when it was known he wouldn't play.

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I believe the islanders hold his rights even after this season as he didn't play and hasn't filed retirement paperwork. They can keep him on the inactive roster, not pay him and keep the caphit. We'd have to trade for him and he went for a 2nd when it was known he wouldn't play.
True. If Thomas doesn't play this season the Islanders could toll Thomas' contract forward another year until the end of 2013-14.

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No, I'm with you there. I just doubt that yet another old goalie is the solution to our unending goaltending problem. Especially when he hasn't played a single game all year long and went out the way he did.
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If Thomas has kept in shape and seems ready to play, sign him to a 1 year deal for 2-3 million. If not let Lindback take the reigns with Garon or another veteran as backup. I like Lindback's potential, but with a young goalie you've gotta give him games. Boucher refused to ride him when he started to pick it up and then got an ankle sprain. Hopefully Coop is better with that
Agreed, I don't see Thomas taking us to a cup either, but I'd rather make a push for the playoffs next year with a proven goalie than have Lindback shoulder the burden again. I guess Thomas was just the first option that sprung to mind when looking at the available UFA goalies we could sign on a short-term deal.

I see great potential in Lindback, he's capable of some outstanding saves and performances but seems to suffer from poor rebound control and a gaping five hole. In the last couple games he started, he also sort of seemed mentally out of it and was constantly fighting to find the puck.

My suggestion for an older, experienced goalie was to play with Lindback and split the responsibility, not necessarily be our undisputed starter. Either way, I have high hopes for Vasilevski and hope anyone we acquire will be a stop-gap solution until he's ready.

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I believe the islanders hold his rights even after this season as he didn't play and hasn't filed retirement paperwork. They can keep him on the inactive roster, not pay him and keep the caphit. We'd have to trade for him and he went for a 2nd when it was known he wouldn't play.
Did not realize this could be a possibility. I wonder if the Isles will play hardball with him like they did with Nabokov. That would suck for Thomas if they did, but I guess he brought this on himself when he decided to take a hiatus from hockey.

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Agreed, I don't see Thomas taking us to a cup either, but I'd rather make a push for the playoffs next year with a proven goalie than have Lindback shoulder the burden again. I guess Thomas was just the first option that sprung to mind when looking at the available UFA goalies we could sign on a short-term deal.

I see great potential in Lindback, he's capable of some outstanding saves and performances but seems to suffer from poor rebound control and a gaping five hole. In the last couple games he started, he also sort of seemed mentally out of it and was constantly fighting to find the puck.

My suggestion for an older, experienced goalie was to play with Lindback and split the responsibility, not necessarily be our undisputed starter. Either way, I have high hopes for Vasilevski and hope anyone we acquire will be a stop-gap solution until he's ready.
I'm not a fan of the whole 'two #1 goalies' thing. If we have two, we don't have one. Look at the last 10 teams to win the Cup, how many had a 1A/1B and how many had a #1?

2012: Quick
2011: Thomas
2010: Niemi (#1 in playoffs)
2009: Fleury
2008: Osgood (Same as Niemi)
2007: Giguere
2006: Ward
2004: Khabibulin
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I'm not a fan of the whole 'two #1 goalies' thing. If we have two, we don't have one. Look at the last 10 teams to win the Cup, how many had a 1A/1B and how many had a #1?

2012: Quick
2011: Thomas
2010: Niemi (#1 in playoffs)
2009: Fleury
2008: Osgood (Same as Niemi)
2007: Giguere
2006: Ward
2004: Khabibulin
2003: Brodeur
2002: Hasek
2001: Roy
Who's to say one doesn't win the job in/prior to the playoffs like Niemi/Osgood? We need to make the playoffs first and foremost and I think a goalie like Thomas could help bring us there. I like Lindback and think he's got potential, but we'll be doing ourselves a disservice if he's our #1 going into next season again, unless it's another rebuilding year.

Plus, I'd rather us sign an experienced netminder in FA for nothing than trade significant prospects and picks for a "#1 goalie".

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Can't this be easily solved by signing him to a tryout contract? If he is rusty from that taking off that 1-1.5 years off, then we can let him go. If he delivers, sign him.

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