HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Montreal Canadiens
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

David Desharnais - Black or White Edition

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
03-25-2013, 06:31 PM
  #101
Bloumeister
Blou Christmas
 
Bloumeister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Under the mistletoe
Posts: 6,679
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrb1p View Post
He's so tiny, my cat tried to swallow him and choked... Pretty sure he did it on purpose.
Your cat's Azrael?




Bloumeister is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 06:35 PM
  #102
Mrb1p
Registered User
 
Mrb1p's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Citizen of the world
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,628
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloumeister View Post
Your cat's Azrael?



Mitaine actually.


Hey I think I'm pretty moderate in my critics of DD. I didnt go and say anything bad about the guy.

Well, I said that he was tiny.

Mrb1p is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 06:40 PM
  #103
Et le But
Moderator
 
Et le But's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
Country: Argentina
Posts: 18,019
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by overlords View Post
I lol'd irl.

Sometimes, I really do love you Blou.


TBH, I'm glad for Mrb1p and Binne4press (sp?) and some others. I was the one always getting called an anti-DDite. Now I look like a moderate.
How about we discuss the spectrum of DD love/hate?

On one end there's Hawkeye and Partisan, on the other there's thebinne4pres.

Et le But is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 06:45 PM
  #104
Mrb1p
Registered User
 
Mrb1p's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Citizen of the world
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,628
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Et le But View Post
How about we discuss the spectrum of DD love/hate?

On one end there's Hawkeye and Partisan, on the other there's thebinne4pres.
It's really like the Lanisters and the Starks on the other. Sorry I had to refer to your avatar once...

Mrb1p is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 06:49 PM
  #105
Et le But
Moderator
 
Et le But's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
Country: Argentina
Posts: 18,019
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrb1p View Post
It's really like the Lanisters and the Starks on the other. Sorry I had to refer to your avatar once...
How can anyone like the Lannisters?

...Well, besides Desharnais. He can relate to Tyrion.

Et le But is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 06:49 PM
  #106
overlords
Hfboards
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Trolling Brian Wilde
Posts: 26,411
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrb1p View Post
It's really like the Lanisters and the Starks on the other. Sorry I had to refer to your avatar once...
DD lovers are the Lanisters, right? Because of the half man...?


edit: Damnit, ELB.

overlords is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 06:50 PM
  #107
Et le But
Moderator
 
Et le But's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
Country: Argentina
Posts: 18,019
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by overlords View Post
DD lovers are the Lanisters, right? Because of the half man...?


edit: Damnit, ELB.
It was really that obvious, wasn't it?

Et le But is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 06:51 PM
  #108
overlords
Hfboards
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Trolling Brian Wilde
Posts: 26,411
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Et le But View Post
It was really that obvious, wasn't it?
Perhaps, but I think I just got an awesome idea for playoff avatars...

overlords is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 06:52 PM
  #109
Et le But
Moderator
 
Et le But's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
Country: Argentina
Posts: 18,019
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by overlords View Post
Perhaps, but I think I just got an awesome idea for playoff avatars...
Yes.

I approve.

Et le But is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 06:54 PM
  #110
Bloumeister
Blou Christmas
 
Bloumeister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Under the mistletoe
Posts: 6,679
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by overlords View Post
I lol'd irl.

Sometimes, I really do love you Blou.
What do you mean, "sometimes"?

Quote:
Originally Posted by overlords View Post
TBH, I'm glad for Mrb1p and Binne4press (sp?) and some others. I was the one always getting called an anti-DDite. Now I look like a moderate.
I believe it's



Where is this world coming to?

Scary

Bloumeister is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 07:43 PM
  #111
One Man Rock Band
T-Ross!!
 
One Man Rock Band's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Habville
Country: Canada
Posts: 46,147
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Et le But View Post
How about we discuss the spectrum of DD love/hate?

On one end there's Hawkeye and Partisan, on the other there's thebinne4pres.
I've been quite critical of DD this year, but the hate is ridiculous. If you want me to go full onto that side, game on.

Even games like the other night, when I called him terrible.. from now on, I'll compliment him despite that.

One Man Rock Band is online now  
Old
03-25-2013, 08:38 PM
  #112
onemorecup*
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,062
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by thebinne4pres View Post
Kings: Kopitar (6'4") Richards (5'11")
Bruins: Bergeron (6'2") Krejci (6')
Hawks: Toews (6'2") Bolland (6')
Pens: Crosby (5'11') Malkin (6'3")
Wings: Datsyuk (5'11") Filpulla (6')
Ducks: Getzlaf (6'4") Mcdonald (5'10")
Canes: Staal (6'3") Stillman (6')

Those are the top 2 center of every Stanley Cup winners since the 2004-2005 Lockout.

In the end, that is why i will push hard for Galchenyuk or Eller taking DD's spot as fast as possible. Cause i firmly believe that, after 7 years of seeing the same thing, is not a coincidence that Stanley cups winners got big top 6 centers.

Nobody here can put an argument stating that we can win the cup, not with a small center, but with the smallest of them all as a top 6. Although everything is possible (and you can't imagine how i would love to be proven wrong on this....still want the Habs to win in the end) it is more than doubtful, and history showed the complete opposite.

It doens't mean that the Habs can't win the Cup with DD on the top 6, but it surely means that Habs will always be an underdog with him on the top 6. Even at almost the top of our conference, NOBODY described the Habs as a contender....why is that?

I don't wanna see DD traded
I don't even considered buying him out
I don't actually really hate DD

I'm just so tired of the Habs being this small and nice underdog team.
And that start with the small and nice little underdog player we just sign for another 4 years.
bang on buddy thats been my point , no team has won anything with a DD type C on the top 6 , a small finesse , one dimensional player . He is weak defensivley , overated on the PP and is sheltered . I dont care if he is 5`2" or 6`6" , he doesnt fit on a contending team

nice for the regular season , but not to go to war with in the playoffs

no team you just mentioned would even touch DD on thier top 6 , and frankly he wouldnt even be on their rosters , cause he plays no role on the bottom 6

its those Peverly , Stoll, Draper types who play third line and help you win

the other point is this ...there was no need to sign him now

ride out the season , and see what goes in the playoffs

I think he was an RFA , plus AG is ready to take over next season after breaking him in this year slowly . AG will be bigger , stronger , knee fully healed ,and with #1 minutes and pp time , how worse can he be than DD , with his skill set
and the #3 pick in the draft and the best center prospect we had in 20 years

if this was years ago when we had very little past Pleks then you can justify signing him right away

Pleks is the perfect 2 and Eller rounds out the third line and can fill in top 6 when need be .

if some stupid team wants to throw stupid money at him , take the draft picks and move on

onemorecup* is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 08:42 PM
  #113
Mrb1p
Registered User
 
Mrb1p's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Citizen of the world
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,628
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by onemorecup View Post
bang on buddy thats been my point , no team has won anything with a DD type C on the top 6 , a small finesse , one dimensional player . He is weak defensivley , overated on the PP and is sheltered . I dont care if he is 5`2" or 6`6" , he doesnt fit on a contending team

nice for the regular season , but not to go to war with in the playoffs

no team you just mentioned would even touch DD on thier top 6 , and frankly he wouldnt even be on their rosters , cause he plays no role on the bottom 6

its those Peverly , Stoll, Draper types who play third line and help you win

the other point is this ...there was no need to sign him now

ride out the season , and see what goes in the playoffs

I think he was an RFA , plus AG is ready to take over next season after breaking him in this year slowly . AG will be bigger , stronger , knee fully healed ,and with #1 minutes and pp time , how worse can he be than DD , with his skill set
and the #3 pick in the draft and the best center prospect we had in 20 years

if this was years ago when we had very little past Pleks then you can justify signing him right away

Pleks is the perfect 2 and Eller rounds out the third line and can fill in top 6 when need be .

if some stupid team wants to throw stupid money at him , take the draft picks and move on
DD is not ''the problem''.

It's Gionta, Gallagher, Bouillon, Dumont and DD.

We can't have all this in our line up...

Mrb1p is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 08:49 PM
  #114
MXD
Registered User
 
MXD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 22,305
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by onemorecup View Post
bang on buddy thats been my point , no team has won anything with a DD type C on the top 6 , a small finesse , one dimensional player . He is weak defensivley , overated on the PP and is sheltered . I dont care if he is 5`2" or 6`6" , he doesnt fit on a contending team

n
You consider DD to be the third center...

MXD is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 08:55 PM
  #115
DAChampion
Registered User
 
DAChampion's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Canberra, Australia
Country: Australia
Posts: 7,593
vCash: 500
Long term, DD is moved to the wing or traded, no doubt about it.

A first line of Desharnais and Pacioretty playing the wings, with Galchenyuk playing center, would probably rock... But not yet.

DAChampion is online now  
Old
03-25-2013, 09:10 PM
  #116
Milhouse40
Registered User
 
Milhouse40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,578
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrb1p View Post
DD is not ''the problem''.

It's Gionta, Gallagher, Bouillon, Dumont and DD.

We can't have all this in our line up...
I agree with that. If MB wants to keep DD around....build the team accordingly.
We already don't got a lot size on the wings, and nothing with size down the pipeline.
Kristo, Collberg, Gallagher, Hudon, Bozon as your top prospect on the wing....try to get some size elsewhere!

And for the love/hate things....i don't hate DD, i'm just not happy with having him on the team, hate is a strong word here!

Milhouse40 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 10:32 PM
  #117
Born in 1909
Hockey Royalty
 
Born in 1909's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Montreal
Posts: 4,906
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Gonzo View Post
As someone who's not particularly high on Desharnais, the constant circular arguments and analysis of his play & stats after every single game is starting to be a bit much. On that note, maybe I should just avoid this thread entirely...
Yep.

Born in 1909 is offline  
Old
03-25-2013, 11:48 PM
  #118
Frozenice
the random dude
 
Frozenice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,532
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrb1p View Post
DD is not ''the problem''.

It's Gionta, Gallagher, Bouillon, Dumont and DD.

We can't have all this in our line up...
I'd put Pleks on that list even though he's marginally there and I'd leave Bouillon off of it but I agree there are too many there for my liking. If DD is staying I'd want to move both Gionta and Gallagher and if DD was going I'd keep either Gionta or Gallagher but not both.

DD and Gallagher on one line and Pleks and Gionta on another doesn't work for me at all.

Frozenice is offline  
Old
03-26-2013, 12:04 AM
  #119
FlyingKostitsyn
Registered User
 
FlyingKostitsyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Quebec
Country: Australia
Posts: 8,097
vCash: 827
Black or white? Compare him to Subban, you'll get your answer.

FlyingKostitsyn is offline  
Old
03-26-2013, 12:44 AM
  #120
Ohashi_Jouzu
Registered User
 
Ohashi_Jouzu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Halifax
Country: Japan
Posts: 22,897
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingKostitsyn View Post
Black or white? Compare him to Subban, you'll get your answer.
Michael Jackson taught me that it doesn't matter. Heee heeeee!

Ohashi_Jouzu is offline  
Old
03-26-2013, 08:57 AM
  #121
Milhouse40
Registered User
 
Milhouse40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,578
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloumeister View Post
What do you mean, "sometimes"?



I believe it's



Where is this world coming to?

Scary
Indeed.....

Milhouse40 is offline  
Old
03-26-2013, 10:42 AM
  #122
onemorecup*
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,062
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrb1p View Post
DD is not ''the problem''.

It's Gionta, Gallagher, Bouillon, Dumont and DD.

We can't have all this in our line up...
AGREED , too many small players

onemorecup* is offline  
Old
03-26-2013, 10:43 AM
  #123
Mrb1p
Registered User
 
Mrb1p's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Citizen of the world
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,628
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frozenice View Post
I'd put Pleks on that list even though he's marginally there and I'd leave Bouillon off of it but I agree there are too many there for my liking. If DD is staying I'd want to move both Gionta and Gallagher and if DD was going I'd keep either Gionta or Gallagher but not both.

DD and Gallagher on one line and Pleks and Gionta on another doesn't work for me at all.
Trade away Gally ? ARE YOU NUTS&

Mrb1p is offline  
Old
03-26-2013, 10:49 AM
  #124
onemorecup*
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,062
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MXD View Post
You consider DD to be the third center...
not on a contending team

he belongs in Calgary or Columbus , where he can get his 50 points , and thier teams arent good enough to win , but he can play in this league

on a contending team he doesnt fit a role

look at the deals so far , Pitt went for size and grit in Morrow and Murray

to put them over the top , Pitt , Boston, or any other legit contender would never make a move for DD when you already have Malkin , Sid, Krejci , Begeron etc on your roster and legit # 3`s in Peverley , Sutter with size and grit

I dont hate him at all , its all about fit and Glachy , Pleks , and Eller are better

onemorecup* is offline  
Old
03-26-2013, 12:04 PM
  #125
Ginu
Registered User
 
Ginu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,728
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by LyricalLyricist View Post
As a center? Why would a standard of poor faceoff ability be a center then? Eller is a good player but FO isn't his strength either.
Eller is 48.8% on faceoffs this year: http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/4252

Quote:
Originally Posted by Et le But View Post
Gally will be a center long term.

But do you really want to see a 20 year old Galchenyuk in a 2-way role against the best opposition? Or see Desharnais in that role?

We aren't going to have two all offense scoring lines.

Of course this brings the other question we already discussed, can Desharnais play on the wings?
Umm Desharnais isn't a two-way center and doesn't face the best opposition. He faces the weakest.

Ginu is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:36 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.