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03-26-2013, 01:57 AM
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So?

If Carcillo-Kane-Hossa worked, why couldn't Sharp-Kane-Iginla work? LOL!
Oh, they'd produce for sure. It's just a funny situation.

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03-26-2013, 02:09 AM
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With Bolland, it's always "oh, is he hurt or does he just not give a **** tonight?" I honestly don't really care any more.

Sooo lazy tonight, in all of the zones.

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03-26-2013, 02:18 AM
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First of all, Kane isn't moving to 2C, he does a nice job by the boards and trying to cycle , he'd not do well with the additional defensive duties nor is he good at faceoffs. That's just bad...

Back to the topic at hand, 2C/Bolland,

Best Case: Bolland is miscast in his role at 2C and would be better on a different line.

Worst Case: Bolland's days as an effective top 9 C are fading.

Middle Case: Bolland is just struggling right now and his play will improve.

If I were the Hawks I might look to move Bollands 3+ mil cap hit to a team in need of a defensive C getting back a C that you think can be a 2C. If you were to move Bolland, this 2C wouldn't necessarily have to expire this off-season.. (Buying out Olesz will open up ~ 3 mil in cap room...)

So who is out there that you could feasibly attract that would help the Blackhawks..

I can't name a player that I think would be available and would be a huge upgrade but if you could somehow nab Bergeron from Boston (maybe Stan's got photos of Chiarelli cheating on his wife...) that'd be perfect

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So who is out there that you could feasibly attract that would help the Blackhawks..
Bolland + Beach + Olsen for Sam Gagner. Patrick Kane and Sam Gagner equals a London Knights reunion.

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03-26-2013, 07:27 AM
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Really? Is that the permanent solution we are looking for?
Did I say permanent? He is a better option on the current roster at2C.

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03-26-2013, 09:25 AM
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Did I say permanent? He is a better option on the current roster at2C.
we've been on 3 years running with "better options on the current roster" -- we need a solution, not a stop-gap

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03-26-2013, 09:36 AM
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caps are close to po's right now, why would they trade arguably their best player?

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03-26-2013, 09:45 AM
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He's a good player and elevates his game in the playoffs

but he's suited to be an excellent/top 3rd line C and not for the 2nd line
So put him there between Shaw and Stalberg

and this offseason I would trade him if we can bring in someone

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03-26-2013, 10:09 AM
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Kruger instead of Bolland because he gives it all every game? This board is a joke.

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Get mad at Bowman for not trading him after 2010 when he should have, when Bolland's value was much higher. Get more aggravated when he was still there to start 2012.

Too late to trade him. With a cap shrinkage, I don't think it's wise to gamble on an expensive player. He's on a cost effective contract, just ride it out and worry about the rest of the roster. Hope that when he goes down for a few games again that he comes out hot again.

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03-26-2013, 11:26 AM
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Kruger instead of Bolland because he gives it all every game? This board is a joke.
On a 3 on 2 yesterday, Bolland had the puck, drifted right, ended up on the boards at the blue line near the benches, and fired a weak little shot ten feet wide.

Lazy. He played and has been playing that way for quite a while now. He is a better offensive player than Kruger is (that could certainly change in the future, though) but if he's barely trying, it doesn't matter. At least we never have to worry about Kruger's effort.

Ideally, someone else is acquired to play #2 center so this mess never exists in the first place... but of course, that's far too much a thing to ask a GM to do in just three measly years. Give him ten more to work with, then we can judge.

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03-26-2013, 11:34 AM
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Ideally, someone else is acquired to play #2 center so this mess never exists in the first place... but of course, that's far too much a thing to ask a GM to do in just three measly years. Give him ten more to work with, then we can judge.
Well you don't want to overpay! You always have to think about the long-term. We have to make room for the prospects as well.

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caps are close to po's right now, why would they trade arguably their best player?
Not to mention the article yesterday that quotes him saying he wants to sign a 5 year extension in Washington.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...ign-capitals/?

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The only real concerns I have about Bolland is his health, his tendency to get injured, and especially the fact that he has had back issues. And it is for that reason that I wouldn’t be terribly upset if he was traded for the right player. Assuming that won’t happen, and Bolland remains a Blackhawk – he will seldom dazzle anyone, but he is almost always noticeable when it really counts and he is healthy. Is he the ideal 2nd line centerman. No but a second line centreman is not going to just fall into our lap. Perhaps he looks out of place now to some but I guarantee that won’t be the case in the playoffs, and that’s when it counts. I’d say Stan’s best option before the TD is to concentrate on a player of Iginla’s ilk and another bottom 6 grinder, possibly even a physical dman if one becomes available. Personally I’d be looking for a goalie as well, but that’s not likely to happen. If Stan stays true to form, he will do none of the above and instead make a minor deal in the next 2 weeks, maybe even two deals and some here will gush over him along with the usual rhetoric about the price being too high or no suitable player being available.

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03-26-2013, 01:08 PM
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I'm starting to hate Bolland for the **** he does during the RS... frustrates me almost every game.
I said the same about Buff 2010 tough...

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On a 3 on 2 yesterday, Bolland had the puck, drifted right, ended up on the boards at the blue line near the benches, and fired a weak little shot ten feet wide.

Lazy. He played and has been playing that way for quite a while now. He is a better offensive player than Kruger is (that could certainly change in the future, though) but if he's barely trying, it doesn't matter. At least we never have to worry about Kruger's effort.

Ideally, someone else is acquired to play #2 center so this mess never exists in the first place... but of course, that's far too much a thing to ask a GM to do in just three measly years. Give him ten more to work with, then we can judge.
I don't care if Kruger gives more effort, he isn't a better option at all.

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03-26-2013, 01:14 PM
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but he wouldn't be worse than Bolland and other than Bolland, he works hard to get the ice time while Bolland gets it for being lazy and having a reputation from the past

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but he wouldn't be worse than Bolland and other than Bolland, he works hard to get the ice time while Bolland gets it for being lazy and having a reputation from the past
But he's worse defensively (he is, don't tell me he isn't) so when the other teams top line is up against Kane, they are in our zone even more!!!

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I'm literally about to pull my hair out

This team does not struggle to score goals. Bolland will turn his game around. Why so many fans on this board are turning on a guy that's done nothing but excell in this organziation is beyond me, and frankly, if you want to trade Bolland this season, you should turn in your Blackhawks fan card.

Bolland is a warrior and he's always played above and beyond his linemates. He hasn't been great this year, in 20-something games. Uh, hmm, err, who gives a flying ****? The team is on top of the NHL standings and as I've already said, any Blackhawks fans with half a brain should know that Bolland always brings his best in the playoffs and shouldn't doubt that he'll turn his game around. For **** sakes.
If this is true for Bolland, it's just as true for Frolik.

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But he's worse defensively (he is, don't tell me he isn't) so when the other teams top line is up against Kane, they are in our zone even more!!!
It doesn't matter if we keep losing faceoffs.

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- Bolland's last goal (Feb 15th vs Sharks)
- Bolland has just 4 shots on goal over last 6 games (4th line scrub like Bollig has 14 for comparison)

The effort is simply not there which is just embarrassing.. At least when Kruger is up front you can depend on effort

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Bolland's lack of effort has made Kane's line a black hole. Kane literally has to do everything. Some of you are laughing at the notion that Kruger's "effort" wouldn't do anything about that, really? Effort breeds confidence, and his energetic play would amp up the whole line. It gets everybody going.

Bolland seems like a saboteur double agent hired by the Canucks at this point.

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- Bolland's last goal (Feb 15th vs Sharks)
- Bolland has just 4 shots on goal over last 6 games (4th line scrub like Bollig has 14 for comparison)

The effort is simply not there which is just embarrassing.. At least when Kruger is up front you can depend on effort
...and you can depend on us being stuck in our zone for longer periods of time and losing more faceoffs.

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...and you can depend on us being stuck in our zone for longer periods of time and losing more faceoffs.
Kruger's a better faceoff man than Bolland by a hair. 46% > 45%

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Kruger's a better faceoff man than Bolland by a hair. 46% > 45%
Kruger doesn't take faceoffs against the best palyers in the league.

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