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03-26-2013, 12:40 PM
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The Waiver Wire Order?

Can someone post it?
I have no idea how it works, and i can imagine there will be more players on waivers in the following week. Might be helpul, thanks!

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I'm pretty sure its the inverse order of the standings. Then when someone picks a player off waivers that team goes to 30th in order and everyone else is bumped up. Someone can correct me if this is wrong.

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One of Buffalo, Colorado, or Florida is first in the order right now. It goes worst record to best record.

EDIT: It's Florida first, then Colorado, then Tampa.

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I'm pretty sure its the inverse order of the standings. Then when someone picks a player off waivers that team goes to 30th in order and everyone else is bumped up. Someone can correct me if this is wrong.
Everything except the bold is correct. Yo can claim as many players as you can afford.

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Everything except the bold is correct. Yo can claim as many players as you can afford.
No, I'm pretty sure putting in a claim pushes you down. It's to prevent a team from claiming everyone.

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inverse order of the standings, but by pt%, not points.

Florida
Colorado
Tampa Bay
Philly
Calgary
Edmonton
Buffalo
Phoenix (ROW tiebreaker to phoenix)
NYI
Washington (ROW tiebreaker to washington)
Columbus
Nashville
Dallas
NYR
Carolina
Winnipeg
San Jose
NJ
Toronto
St. Louis
Detroit
LA
Vancouver
Ottawa
Minnesota
Boston
Montreal (ROW tiebreaker to montreal)
Anaheim
Pittsburgh
Chicago

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No, I'm pretty sure putting in a claim pushes you down. It's to prevent a team from claiming everyone.
no, it doesnt. That just happens in video games.


edit: Also, i'm pretty sure the standings matter at 12pm EST/EDT on the day the claims are processed, not the day the players are waived, so games tonight matter (in case anyone was planning on tanking a game to pick up jussi jokinen - lol)

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Updated reverse standings would be good to have in the stickied waiver thread.

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Updated reverse standings would be good to have in the stickied waiver thread.
Agreed.

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No, I'm pretty sure putting in a claim pushes you down. It's to prevent a team from claiming everyone.
Not a rule, look at the Islanders who in the week and a half claimed Finley, Hickey, Aucoin and then Strait.

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Not a rule, look at the Islanders who in the week and a half claimed Finley, Hickey, Aucoin and then Strait.
>Implying that all other teams wouldn't have passed on those players anyways

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One of Buffalo, Colorado, or Florida is first in the order right now. It goes worst record to best record.

EDIT: It's Florida first, then Colorado, then Tampa.
Also worth noting: it's by total % of possible points gained rather than absolute record/points. So a team for example like Nashville with 33GP and 34PTS (51.5%) would be earlier in waiver priority than the Rangers with 31GP and 33PTS (53.2%) even though Nashville has more points.

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If only one Club makes a claim for the Player on whom Waivers have been
requested, such Player shall be transferred to that Club. In the event that more than one
Club makes a claim for such Player, he shall be transferred to the claiming Club having
earned the lowest percentage of possible points in the League standing at the time of the
request for Waivers or, if Waivers are requested outside the playing season, then to the
Club having earned the lowest percentage of possible points in the preceding season's
schedule of Regular Season Games. If the successful Waiver claim is made before
November 1st then the priority shall be determined by the final standing in the League's
Regular Season schedule in the preceding season.
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...don't forget that there is a limit to how many contracts a team can carry. That would limit most teams fro multiple claims.

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>Implying that all other teams wouldn't have passed on those players anyways
Hickey...

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...don't forget that there is a limit to how many contracts a team can carry. That would limit most teams fro multiple claims.
yep, 50

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Waiver wire order goes in inverse CORRECT standings order. Not the confusing/misleading standings that are always listed. A team "leading" another team by one point while the trailing team has two games in hand is the dumbest thing ever.


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Is there a site that gives the amount of contracts each team has, or at least the names of all of the players under contract to that team? Or do I have to go through each team individually to find out?

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Not a rule, look at the Islanders who in the week and a half claimed Finley, Hickey, Aucoin and then Strait.
The rule changes once the season begins, i believe. They were all claimed prior to the season starting.

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The rule changes once the season begins, i believe. They were all claimed prior to the season starting.
Nothing changes. Teams do not get bumped to the bottom of the order after making a waiver claim. That is not a rule.

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Updated reverse standings would be good to have in the stickied waiver thread.
Not necessary, just go to NHL.com and look at the standings.

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...don't forget that there is a limit to how many contracts a team can carry. That would limit most teams fro multiple claims.
Ya the contract limit is the only thing that prevents the worst team from taking all the waiver wire pickups.

EDIT:

That and they'd have to waive their own guys to make room after 23 on the NHL roster.

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Don't forget that very often, players going down the wire are in that position because the waiving team couldn't arrange a trade or simply didn't find any takers. So the inherit quality of players, plus the contract limit, prevents teams from racking up claims.

Owners obviously don't want to dish out hundreds of thousands on players who are essentially deadweight at the NHL level which is why guys like Boychuk get waived all the time.

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Waiver wire order goes in inverse CORRECT standings order. Not the confusing/misleading standings that are always listed. A team "leading" another team by one point while the trailing team has two games in hand is the dumbest thing ever.
Well no. It makes some sense. I agree that point percentage would be the way to go but you can not discount the current system.

You can have 1 point less with 10 games in hand. If you lose 10 straight you still have 1 point less. Teams have to "earn" their position in the standings. At the end of the year everyone has played the same amount of games. Wins and points is all that counts in the end. No one cares if your point percentage was far superior at one point.

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Well no. It makes some sense. I agree that point percentage would be the way to go but you can not discount the current system.

You can have 1 point less with 10 games in hand. If you lose 10 straight you still have 1 point less. Teams have to "earn" their position in the standings. At the end of the year everyone has played the same amount of games. Wins and points is all that counts in the end. No one cares if your point percentage was far superior at one point.
While this is true, they use the Pt% system for the waiver wire because all of the teams haven't yet played the same amount of games.

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Is there a site that gives the amount of contracts each team has, or at least the names of all of the players under contract to that team? Or do I have to go through each team individually to find out?
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