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03-26-2013, 01:31 PM
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i hope to god we dont give up noesen or a first for roy. Stick to the rebuild plan murray.
Sens are 18-9-6
Spezza, Karlsson, Andersson and Michalek have been injured for the most part

The rebuild is done in Ottawa… we are at the stage now where we move pieces to load up and go on cup runs.

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03-26-2013, 01:35 PM
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I don't see the Senators being overly interested in Roy unless they can get him for peanuts. Murray has stated many times that he isn't looking to bring in rentals, and there is no way he gives up quality assets for any player that doesn't fit into the rebuild ala kyle turris.

Besides, center is the last position that the Sens need to pad. They need a big top 6 winger more then anything

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03-26-2013, 01:38 PM
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Sens are 18-9-6
Spezza, Karlsson, Andersson and Michalek have been injured for the most part

The rebuild is done in Ottawa… we are at the stage now where we move pieces to load up and go on cup runs.
I highly doubt that the Sens give up some future for a cup run with Karlsson and Cowen out for the year, Spezza hobbling back into the lineup after the trade deadline and no idea what's going to happen with Michalek.

Next year maybe, but not now.

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03-26-2013, 01:45 PM
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I highly doubt that the Sens give up some future for a cup run with Karlsson and Cowen out for the year, Spezza hobbling back into the lineup after the trade deadline and no idea what's going to happen with Michalek.

Next year maybe, but not now.
Roy would not be my target and I don't think the Sens have a lot of interest in him.

But I think Ottawa would be willing to pay a good amount in futures for a legit first line winger who has term on his contract.

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03-26-2013, 01:46 PM
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Well that's my question, is Turris capable of moving to the wing and beinf effective? If that's a yes, then a Spezza/Roy 1-2 would be great.
I think Turris moving to wing is possible, if I recall, he's been paired on Spezza's line and had some successes there?

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I doubt we get Roy

Rather Eriksson or Jagr if we deal with Dallas
Jagr is a possibility (though I doubt Ottawa wants to spend assets on someone that could retire at any given moment, and I doubt Jagr wants to move from Dallas considering he's become comfortable and accustomed to the city). Good luck getting Eriksson though.


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Sens are 18-9-6
Spezza, Karlsson, Andersson and Michalek have been injured for the most part

The rebuild is done in Ottawa… we are at the stage now where we move pieces to load up and go on cup runs.
Once those players come back and guys like Turris, Silfverberg, Wiercioch etc. get bumped down and start playing fewer minutes it's hard to predict if they will still be as effective. Logically you would think being sheltered by other good players will make them even better but its not always what happens. You probably don't see Gonchar playing as great as he is this year if Karlsson is still in the line up and playing 25-30 minutes as the primary offensive threat.

I wait and see how things play out before declaring the rebuild over. Besides I don't see us making a serious push in a year where we won't have Karlsson.

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03-26-2013, 01:52 PM
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Let's try this ...

Is Noesen a deal breaker for the Ottawa Senators? We don't have to worry about the pick. It could be something similar to the Morrow trade even where Dallas potentially adds. Personally ... I don't think they would, but let's just see if the base part of the trade is agreeable.

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Roy would not be my target and I don't think the Sens have a lot of interest in him.

But I think Ottawa would be willing to pay a good amount in futures for a legit first line winger who has term on his contract.
I agree, as long as it's a player that would be around for a while, like u said with term.

I don't see the Sens having much of an interest in Roy either unless he can play wing, and even then I doubt they'd give up as much as some other teams would for a ufa. Nor should they

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03-26-2013, 01:58 PM
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I think Turris moving to wing is possible, if I recall, he's been paired on Spezza's line and had some successes there?
Turris has never played wing for the Sens. He did a bit on the Yotes, however.

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Let's try this ...

Is Noesen a deal breaker for the Ottawa Senators? We don't have to worry about the pick. It could be something similar to the Morrow trade even where Dallas potentially adds. Personally ... I don't think they would, but let's just see if the base part of the trade is agreeable.
its not for me. i wouldnt trade Noesen for UFA Roy.
Im not sure id trade Noesen for a signed Roy, he doesnt fill a need.

All this talk of "we could move Turris to the wing" is just that - all talk.
The guy has an awesome shot that doesnt necessarily mean he's a winger! If you watch him play he's a puck carrier, the core of his game is carrying the puck and creating offence - how does that work as a winger on Spezza's line?

It doesnt.

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03-26-2013, 02:03 PM
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SENS don`t have a second in 2013

DaCosta + ?
i'd do dacosta + 2014 2nd, but that probably doesnt get it done.

Dallas will want 2013 1st/noesen/puempel, and i'm not really willing to do that at this stage of the rebuild for another playmaking center.

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03-26-2013, 02:20 PM
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Let's try this ...

Is Noesen a deal breaker for the Ottawa Senators? We don't have to worry about the pick. It could be something similar to the Morrow trade even where Dallas potentially adds. Personally ... I don't think they would, but let's just see if the base part of the trade is agreeable.
For me Noesen in exchange for Roy is a no go. I don't understand Ottawa being interested in Roy. They have Spezza, Turris and Smith as 1,2,3 and that's very good and Zibanejad in the wings. Get help at wing.

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Roy to Anaheim for Smith-Pelly and 2013 1st

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03-26-2013, 02:28 PM
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Roy played on a line with Spezza a few years ago at the World Championships.

maybe they're looking to reconnect that line (minus dany boy)

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Noesen for Roy would be ok with me, in reply to the Stars fan who posted that. However, my concern is the same as others: We don't have a need for a centerman right now. I personally wouldn't make that deal. Good player, but that trade shifts our lineup too much and, more importantly, might leave some of our current players unhappy.

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I'd rather eat hot garbage than see Roy in a Sens uniform. It's not just the diving that bothers me eiher, I honestly think he'd make the team worse.

I wouldn't give up anything for him. I would rather miss the playoffs than win a series because of contributions from Roy.

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You would trade *****? Why? I caught a few Ducks games a couple of weeks ago and he was outstanding. Very good bottom 6 player that knows how to play his role well.

He might be very useful for you guys in the playoffs.
I wouldn't want to. Not if I could avoid it. I think the Ducks are missing Bonino in the line-up right now.

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Gillis would be insane to not go after roy, prob the best guy available right now at the deadline.

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Gillis would be insane to not go after roy, prob the best guy available right now at the deadline.
Schroeder and a pick for Roy

Or

Jensen for Roy and a Dallas pick

Interest Canuck fans at all?

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No interest in Noesen for Roy.

Maybe Da Costa?

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Sens are 18-9-6
Spezza, Karlsson, Andersson and Michalek have been injured for the most part

The rebuild is done in Ottawa… we are at the stage now where we move pieces to load up and go on cup runs.
that sounds like the muckler-logic that got us into this mess in the first place.

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I'd rather eat hot garbage than see Roy in a Sens uniform. It's not just the diving that bothers me eiher, I honestly think he'd make the team worse.

I wouldn't give up anything for him. I would rather miss the playoffs than win a series because of contributions from Roy.
Well you dont understand hockey thats why, I hope no one associates you with the rest of the sens fans. You also said Brier wouldnt help meanwhile Peter Regin plays the 6th most of all forwards last night.

Id trade Noesen for Roy as long as they sign him for 3 years.

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that sounds like the muckler-logic that got us into this mess in the first place.
Does it even help? For instance, if 12/16 of the last cup teams added a rental, but 12/16 playoff teams add someone, then it means you're just as likely to make it without a rental, etc...

Someone should do some research, because I'm kind of tired of seeing teams add a bunch of guys for NO REASON.

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Honestly from Ottawa the most movable prospects seem to be Puempel(who I actually really like, natural goal scorer with good skating and good vision i think he'll be a good player) and Shane Prince( can score, make plays and is also pretty fast) that would hold value.

Most sens fans probably agree even though these are the types of player we lack.

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The going asking price for Roy from what i have seen around the web is a 1st + Mid level prospect or a 2nd+ higher end prospect.
This seems like alot to give up for a player who hasn't eclipsed 55 points since the 2006-2007 Season

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