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03-26-2013, 02:24 PM
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Kruger doesn't take faceoffs against the best palyers in the league.
If Bolland's job is to excel against the best players in the league, including faceoffs, he's doing a piss poor job in that case.

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03-26-2013, 02:25 PM
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If Bolland's job is to excel against the best players in the league, including faceoffs, he's doing a piss poor job in that case.
..and Kruger would do even worse.

But I love it, Bolland has a terrible 25 games, and everyone wants him gone/waived, he's useless, and will never ever be as good as he once was.

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03-26-2013, 02:27 PM
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I love it, Bolland has a terrible 25 games, and everyone wants him gone/waived, he's useless, and will never ever be as good as he once was.
I want him off the 2nd line.

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I want him off the 2nd line.
Who replaces him? Any other option is worse aside from paying out of the ass for a rental who we can't afford moving forward.

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Kruger doesn't take faceoffs against the best palyers in the league.
Considering Kruger is playing more short handed against teams #1 PP unit

That statement is false

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Who replaces him? Any other option is worse aside from paying out of the ass for a rental who we can't afford moving forward.
Who should replace him right now? Marcus Kruger. At least for a few games.

Maybe then Bolland's compete level would be on par, which is a big problem currently.

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03-26-2013, 02:37 PM
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Considering Kruger is playing more short handed against teams #1 PP unit

That statement is false
..the amount of faceoffs he takes against #1 C's is so far away from the amount of faceoffs Bolland takes against #1C's.

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03-26-2013, 02:38 PM
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Who should replace him right now? Marcus Kruger. At least for a few games.

Maybe then Bolland's compete level would be on par.
He already did replace him, and did sweet **** all with it, and looked even worse than Bolland did. Not only did he look worse, so did Kane and Sharp.

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03-26-2013, 02:41 PM
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He already did replace him, and did sweet **** all with it, and looked even worse than Bolland did. Not only did he look worse, so did Kane and Sharp.
He didn't look worse. He actually tried. He just happens to be worse.

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03-26-2013, 04:04 PM
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...and you can depend on us being stuck in our zone for longer periods of time and losing more faceoffs.
Krüger starts most of his shifts in the own zone and has a positiv corsi... no, we wouldn't miss a beat with Krüger on the 2nd line over Bolland

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03-26-2013, 04:42 PM
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Krüger starts most of his shifts in the own zone and has a positiv corsi... no, we wouldn't miss a beat with Krüger on the 2nd line over Bolland
Bolland does too, except a lot more. Kruger will not replace Bolland at all, end of story.

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03-26-2013, 05:18 PM
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Bolland does too, except a lot more. Kruger will not replace Bolland at all, end of story.
I am glad you are so sure Bolland is the best option at 2C. You must have Stan and Qs ear because they keep the stump there.

I am looking at Bollands current performances and your are romancing prior years. I wish I had your rose colored glasses.

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03-26-2013, 05:24 PM
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I am glad you are so sure Bolland is the best option at 2C. You must have Stan and Qs ear because they keep the stump there.

I am looking at Bollands current performances and your are romancing prior years. I wish I had your rose colored glasses.
It's a 20-game sample. Bolland's track record speaks for itself.

Heaven forbid Kane has a down.. Oh, wait, that already happened.

Infinite lolz.

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It's a 20-game sample. Bolland's track record speaks for itself.

Heaven forbid Kane has a down.. Oh, wait, that already happened.

Infinite lolz.
Bolland track record is as good/above average 3rd line C

Its pretty clear that he is a complete failure at #2C

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It's a 20-game sample. Bolland's track record speaks for itself.

Heaven forbid Kane has a down.. Oh, wait, that already happened.

Infinite lolz.
That is a ridiculous comparison......a possible MVP vs. the center of his line not able to even get points and is a -.

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03-26-2013, 05:36 PM
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That is a ridiculous comparison......a possible MVP vs. the center of his line not able to even get points and is a -.
It is?

Patrick Kane was scoring at a PpG pace last year after 35 games than fell off in the middle/tail-end of the season. In the off-season, we had numerous Hawk fans that wanted him traded or, at least, wouldn't have been upset if Chicago traded him. For what? A bad 20-30 game stretch last year. What's the difference? Obviously Kane's more talented and has the higher upside, but we know Bolland's better than he's shown thus far - like we knew Kane was better than he showed last year - and we know, come playoff time, you'd rather have Bolland on your team than not.

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It is. I did not ask for a Kane trade either. And remind me how awesome Bollands playoffs were last year? That makes the sample siz of sucking even bigger.

Please note I like the guy and want him to succeed. Him not trying is not changing my perception of the guy.

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In the past, everytime Bolland was used on the 2nd line, he wasn't good or carried by elite players like Kane or Hossa who did all the work alone. If you put Krüger next to Kane and Jayes there would be no difference

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03-27-2013, 06:51 AM
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It is?

Patrick Kane was scoring at a PpG pace last year after 35 games than fell off in the middle/tail-end of the season. In the off-season, we had numerous Hawk fans that wanted him traded or, at least, wouldn't have been upset if Chicago traded him. For what? A bad 20-30 game stretch last year. What's the difference? Obviously Kane's more talented and has the higher upside, but we know Bolland's better than he's shown thus far - like we knew Kane was better than he showed last year - and we know, come playoff time, you'd rather have Bolland on your team than not.

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Bolland track record is as good/above average 3rd line C

Its pretty clear that he is a complete failure at #2C

Granted, Bolly has been in a down stretch lately, but "above average"? "Above average" 3c's don't shut down Sedin types in the playoffs. Sorry.

He's not "the solution" at 2c, but he is the best we got right now.

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03-27-2013, 08:27 AM
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Krüger starts most of his shifts in the own zone and has a positiv corsi... no, we wouldn't miss a beat with Krüger on the 2nd line over Bolland

Give us a break. Kruger is hanging by a thread just to be on this roster as a 4th line center. His PK success is his only asset, and that hasn't been great lately neither.

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03-27-2013, 09:07 AM
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I am glad you are so sure Bolland is the best option at 2C. You must have Stan and Qs ear because they keep the stump there.

I am looking at Bollands current performances and your are romancing prior years. I wish I had your rose colored glasses.
Anyone who doesn't think Bolland is our best option at #2C right now is clueless.

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03-27-2013, 09:23 AM
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Give us a break. Kruger is hanging by a thread just to be on this roster as a 4th line center. His PK success is his only asset, and that hasn't been great lately neither.
The advanced stat group isn't going to agree with that.

Hell, neither am I. Kruger has been solid in his role.

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03-27-2013, 09:34 AM
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Maybe I missed this, but would anyone be opposed to this if Q was willing to force Sharp to play C when he's back?

Bickell/Stalberg-Sharp-Kane
Bickell/Stalberg-Bolland-Shaw

Seems like the best option to me, and seeing as the third hasn't played as well lately, 'breaking up their chemistry' isn't as large a problem.

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We may as well just pretend Sharp has never played center. I don't see him ever going back there.

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