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03-27-2013, 05:21 PM
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2 Boston deals with the Alberta teams

Both of these proposed deals involve Edmonton/Calgary retaining a little salary next year to help Boston with it's cap issue... and involve Boston using compliance buyouts on a couple of unwanted contracts so that Edmonton/Calgary don't lose a lot of actual money on the exchange.

Deal with Calgary is obviously after Iginla... If Iginla is willing to extend a deal in order to play for Boston that I would give up quite a lot for him... especially if he became affordable. So work with me here. I am guessing that he is a reasonable person and realizes he is getting older. He doesn't seem like the type of guy that likes to move around. So give him an ironclad NMC and a 5 year deal at around 25 million dollars {5 cap hit per year} Front load it as much as possible in case he needs to be bought out as a 40 year old.

I suggest Calgary would need to eat a couple million in year 1 to make Iginla affordable.

The deal than becomes
Iginla
Sarich {would be playoff depth that Boston buys him out if they cant flip him}

for

Subban {all the rumors say this is the guy Calgary wants}
Caron
Bartowski {Caron and Bartowski are just affordable guys to plug in during rebuild}
Calgary choice of 2013 or 2014 first round pick
and a second round pick in whatever year Calgary doesn't exercise the first

Basically 2 firsts and a second for a signed Iginla. Boston pays a bit more to get Calgary to help with the cap issue.

Second deal is with Edmonton and basically the same thing. This one I propose that Boston deals Chris Kelly. I know he is injured. I also propose they deal Andrew Ference. I know he is a pending UFA. For those that don't know Ference is an Alberta area kid who was happy playing in Calgary.

From Edmonton
Nicholas Shultz {subsidized 1/2 his contract to make him affordable}
Eric Belenger {playoff depth than a compliance buyout probably}
for
Chris Kelly {will be healthy again next year
Andrew Ference ** I suggest Edmonton sign him... hes going to be cheaper than Schultz as a 6th dman}

This move gives Edmonton a much needed change in vetern leadership and vetern leadership that has winning experience. I love Kelly/Ference but Boston needs to cut down our payroll a lot to get everyone signed next year and the year after that too probably.

Schultz can play a top 4 role better than Ference can and Boston might have a hole in the top 4 if an injury happened. Belenger has sucked recently but was a fairly useful player before he got to Edmonton... a change of scenery might rejuvenate him. if not, his buyout will be around the same as the money saved on Schultz.

Boston gets to play next year with Iginla/Schultz instead of Horton/Ference as a reduced cost and IMO its quite an upgrade. Kelly is hard to lose but Spooner needs room in the lineup. He doesn't have anything left to prove with another season in the AHL.

Giving up so many picks sucks... but that's what teams do that are trying to win a cup.

and that's why id be happy if my Bruins made these 2 moves. I think the moves are in the best interest of Edmonton/Calgary too but Im a Bruin fan so I wait to be corrected.

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Chiarelli has explicitly said he will not trade Subban; he just reiterated it today.

http://www.csnne.com/blog/bruins-tal...malcolm-subban

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“I could tell you this, I’m not trading Malcolm Subban,” Chiarelli said on Wednesday. “He’s young, a very good goalie prospect and I see him being a big part of our future. We have some goalie depth, but I can tell you I’m not trading Malcolm Subban.”
Doesn't seem like he is being coy here.

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03-27-2013, 05:27 PM
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Whitney is the Oiler Boston is after. And maybe Hemsky if Iginla falls through.

What about:

Hemsky at $3.5 mil (oilers retain 1.5 salary) + Whitney
for
Boychuk and Peverley?

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Hell no on that Boychuk Peverley deal.

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Outside of Koko, I just really don't want any part of Boston's prospects.

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No one wants caron.

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Whitney is the Oiler Boston is after. And maybe Hemsky if Iginla falls through.

What about:

Hemsky at $3.5 mil (oilers retain 1.5 salary) + Whitney
for
Boychuk and Peverley?
Boychuk > Whitney
Peverley > Hemsky

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I'll take the N.Schultz+Belanger for Kelly+Ference. Kelly can't possibly be as bad as Belanger right?

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Strictly based on value, both deals seem pretty fair. Maybe toss a pick to Edmonton.

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Question to bruin fans: Apparently, Boston offered Edmonton their second overall pick in 2010 (Tyler Seguin) at the draft for Jordan Eberle and Ales Hemsky. Curious, would B's fans do it now?

Edmonton gets centre depth with RNH, Seguin and Boston gets two elite wingers.

Who wins this deal? Edmonton or Boston?

Sorry to hijack this thread btw.

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I was pretty sure Edmonton offered that same deal to boston .not the other way ,so the question would be would you do it?

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Question to bruin fans: Apparently, Boston offered Edmonton their second overall pick in 2010 (Tyler Seguin) at the draft for Jordan Eberle and Ales Hemsky. Curious, would B's fans do it now?

Edmonton gets centre depth with RNH, Seguin and Boston gets two elite wingers.

Who wins this deal? Edmonton or Boston?

Sorry to hijack this thread btw.
I wouldn't call eberle and hemsky "two elite wingers"

I wouldn't have done it then and I still wouldn't now although I'm a fan of eberle's

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Question to bruin fans: Apparently, Boston offered Edmonton their second overall pick in 2010 (Tyler Seguin) at the draft for Jordan Eberle and Ales Hemsky. Curious, would B's fans do it now?

Edmonton gets centre depth with RNH, Seguin and Boston gets two elite wingers.

Who wins this deal? Edmonton or Boston?

Sorry to hijack this thread btw.
I shouldn't pose because i'm biased towards the oilers but.... i'm happy with picking Hall and Gagner is proving to be a point/game player. don't need seguin. however, if the deal was gagner and hemsky.....

time will tell

but....

Hemsky, Whitney, and Eager are available.

need size and grit

i'll warn you that,
Hemsky is like one of those pretty windows you see in a church
Whitney is still coming down from all the oxy in the offseason
And
Eager is like going to an animal auction to buy a stud, but coming home with a homo

Gagner requires a huge overpayment of Lucic proportions
- yes i know it would be an overpayment....

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Who has more trade value between Ference and Boychuk?

Hemsky, Whitney

vs.

Caron, Ference/Boychuk (Boston choice)

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No Whitney, no Hemsky, nao quero

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Boychuk > Whitney
Peverley > Hemsky

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Homerism at its finest ladies and gentleman

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