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03-27-2013, 09:41 PM
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Wow. What an absolute fleecing. No Subban. No Spooner.
No team is going to give up major assets like that for a rental.

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If D. Boyle is unavailable, or too costly, I would try and push for Derek Morris, and Clowe. Would be excellent pick ups. Boyd Gordon is another one, but there is going to be an all out bidding war for him. Morris plays very well under Tippet, and struggled with the safe is death system Torts tried during their short stint together. He fits, and I would see these two players as ideal players to trade for.

St. Croix, 2nd, conditional 3rd (finals appearance) for Clowe

Pyatt, and 2 3rds for Morris

no way Morris gets dealt especially back to NYR... maybe NYR can sign Paul Mara

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Clowe is very much having interest league wide. The Canucks, Bruins and Habs all had/still have great interest in adding him.

This year's seller market is even bigger. Look at the returns marginal players like Murray and Morrow got.
...and look what Iginla got. Or look what Hossa or Kovalchuk returned (roster player, prospect, 1st). There simply is no way, that Clowe, having a very bad year also, returns a 1st, 2nd and a good prospect.

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Dreger said the price was a 1st or a 2nd and a decent prospect for Clowe. Let's try and get things straight, shall we?
no. dont get in the way of a kershaw bizarre pessimistic rant/doomsday scenario.

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No team is going to give up major assets like that for a rental.
Does that make it any less of a fleecing?

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He severely undervalued him for mediocre assets in return. Boston gets an elite winger for scraps. On the other hand, we payed the moon for Nash. Sucks, but Rangers luck I guess.
iginla is 35 years old. nash is 28 and under contract for 5 more years. are u going to use any comparable players/stats/past trades tonight or is everything u post going to be ridiculous?

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...and look what Iginla got. Or look what Hossa or Kovalchuk returned (roster player, prospect, 1st). There simply is no way, that Clowe, having a very bad year also, returns a 1st, 2nd and a good prospect.
Just going by the Sharks asking price.

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Just going by the Sharks asking price.
If everybody got their asking price Kreider would be on Columbus right now

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With Zucc, Kreider, Miller, Hags , FAST and more skilled very good forwards on the way the Rangers need 1 or 2 Clowe or Ott type forwards but these guys need to be home grown because the asking price is nuts.

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iginla is 35 years old. nash is 28 and under contract for 5 more years. are u going to use any comparable players/stats/past trades tonight or is everything u post going to be ridiculous?
Iginla has also been a significantly better player than Nash his entire career. Even last year a 34 year old Iginla outproduced Nash last season. He is also a player who's never had linemate help his entire career. His numbers will go up exponentially being fed pucks from Krejci instead of Matt Stajan.

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Well what team is out there that will give up a first and a prospect that Clowe would waive his NTC and move away or with his family for?

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Does that make it any less of a fleecing?
Not really. I'm sure the organization felt the need to give something back to Iginla and give him another chance to win a cup. I don't think they would be making crazy demands.

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Just going by the Sharks asking price.
So you really think the asking price is always the final price? And if they ask for a superstar in return, Sather will give them Nash? Trading with you must be great...

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Iginla has also been a significantly better player than Nash his entire career. Even last year a 34 year old Iginla outproduced Nash last season. He is also a player who's never had linemate help his entire career. His numbers will go up exponentially being fed pucks from Krejci instead of Matt Stajan.
and hes also 34-35 and without a contract. they arent remotely comparable trades.

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no. dont get in the way of a kershaw bizarre pessimistic rant/doomsday scenario.
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So you really think the asking price is always the final price? And if they ask for a superstar in return, Sather will give them Nash? Trading with you must be great...
Especially since the Sharks will have less and less leverage the closer we get to the deadline.

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and hes also 34-35 and without a contract. they arent remotely comparable trades.
Iggy apparently wants an extension ASAP with the team he's being traded to.

With his pedigree and his work to stay fit, I expect multiple 30-40g seasons from him in the near future.

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Not really. I'm sure the organization felt the need to give something back to Iginla and give him another chance to win a cup. I don't think they would be making crazy demands.
With all due respect to Iginla, any organization needs to put itself and it's future first. This is going to cost Feaster his job.

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We would probably offer a 3rd this yr, 2nd in '14 and a b level prospect for Clowe.

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Iggy apparently wants an extension ASAP with the team he's being traded to.

With his pedigree and his work to stay fit, I expect multiple 30-40g seasons from him in the near future.
Boston isn't giving him that extension that's for sure. They have about 6 mill in cap space and no goalies signed.

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With all due respect to Iginla, any organization needs to put itself and it's future first. This is going to cost Feaster his job.
This, in of itself, is not going to cost feaster his job. I'm sure he went to ownership and ran it past them considering the high profile of Iggy.

You aren't going to put any team "over the barrel" with a 35 year old player who is UFA over the summer. Iggy will most likely just resign with Calgary for next season.

So, Calgary got some ok pieces for a guy who will play, at most, 2.5 months away from your team.

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Boston isn't giving him that extension that's for sure. They have about 6 mill in cap space and no goalies signed.
Move out Nathan Horton.

Insert Iginla in place.

Profit.

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What do you guys think about this?

Gaborik
Pyatt
Skjei
St. Croix

For

Boyle
Clowe
2nd.

Stralman
2nd.
3rd.

Morris
Gordon


Hagelin-Stepan-Nash
Clowe-Miller-Callahan
Kreider-Richards-Zuccarello
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McD-G
Staal-Boyle
DZ-Morris

I am big Gabby fan but here's why I do this. Clowe is the closest thing to the Hartnell or Lucicesque power forward out there, outside of those two. Dan Boyle, after Karlsson and Doughty is probably the third best puck rushing defenseman thats a right handed shot. Gordon is a righty shot, good on draws, pk, utility guy that is basically Powe and Halpern rolled into one. Morris is a physical, right handed shooting defenseman that is experienced in tight checking systems.

This gives Torts five defensemen that can play the most amount of minutes any night, and easily the best D in the league. You get a power foward, and an top 4 PMD, and a top 4 capable shutdown defenseman, and provided the newly acquired assets a re-signed at a reasonable cap hit. Plenty of cap space for next year with a tougher team that is built like the B's upfront, and the Hawks on D.

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Move out Nathan Horton.

Insert Iginla in place.

Profit.
Not really when you still have to sign Rask, who damn well is going to be making more than the 3.5 he is making now

Nathan Horton is a UFA next season, his money isn't included in the capspace they have available.

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