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Dreger saying the Rangers have targeted Boyle, and have been for quite awhile.
That would make our defense ridiculously good, but his cap hit is almost 7M, we can't afford that next year.

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Callahan?
He's "averaged 54 points/season over the past four seasons"?

Really? Hrm. Missed that.

Oh, and Callahan isn't a third line player, either. Last year Callahan had the highest ATOI of any Rangers forward. Look it up.

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Thank god you're not the GM of ANY team.
it was hypothetical, I wouldn't give up that package for either person, but more so for Jagr who is much better.

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it was hypothetical, I wouldn't give up that package for either person, but more so for Jagr who is much better.
Even hypothetically it was terrible.

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does Clowe play on the PK (think I've only seen 2 Sharks games all season)?

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Even hypothetically it was terrible.
thats the price for Clowe, and yet people keep saying we should get him.

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thats the price for Clowe, and yet people keep saying we should get him.
asking price =/= final price


why is that so hard of a concept for people to grasp?

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thats the price for Clowe, and yet people keep saying we should get him.
There is a difference between asking and getting.
I agree at that price, Hell no!
If the price comes down to 2nd + Boyle/Pyatt, sure.

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That would make our defense ridiculously good, but his cap hit is almost 7M, we can't afford that next year.
Even though the Rangers do need a hard shooting Dman for the PP, Dan Boyle is a bad option imo. He still has a year on his contract, and it will make a serious headache for our resigns. It only works if your sending Gabs the other way. In that scenario all we have done is just replace one contract for the other. That doesn't work for SJ or us imo.

Clowe, doesn't have any of those problems considering that he would be gone by the summer. He is low risk depending on the price tag.

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why is that so hard of a concept for people to grasp?
The way some people on here have a hard on for him makes him sound really good, so what makes people think we get him for something like boyle + 2nd?

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He's "averaged 54 points/season over the past four seasons"?

Really? Hrm. Missed that.

Oh, and Callahan isn't a third line player, either. Last year Callahan had the highest ATOI of any Rangers forward. Look it up.
It was a poorly executed joke.

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Even though the Rangers do need a hard shooting Dman for the PP, Dan Boyle is a bad option imo. He still has a year on his contract, and it will make a serious headache for our resigns. It only works if your sending Gabs the other way. In that scenario all we have done is just replace one contract for the other. That doesn't work for SJ or us imo.

Clowe, doesn't have any of those problems considering that he would be gone by the summer. He is low risk depending on the price tag.
Gaborik for Boyle makes no sense for either team. The only way we can afford Boyle would be if the Sharks retain almost half his salary.

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The way some people on here have a hard on for him makes him sound really good, so what makes people think we get him for something like boyle + 2nd?
Ahh yes, some people on here. GMs read this board in order to gauge trade values you know.

Clowe brings a lot. He would be an asset to this team. Any team, which is why a bunch want him. But anybody who pays that price for him has a hole in their head.

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Ahh yes, some people on here. GMs read this board in order to gauge trade values you know.

Clowe brings a lot. He would be an asset to this team. Any team, which is why a bunch want him. But anybody who pays that price for him has a hole in their head.
based on what he's done this year (and with him being an UFA), I fail to see how he would be an asset to us.

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The way some people on here have a hard on for him makes him sound really good, so what makes people think we get him for something like boyle + 2nd?
He has insane contract that no one wants to pay.

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based on what he's done this year (and with him being an UFA), I fail to see how he would be an asset to us.
STATS STATS STATS!

You do realize he brings things OTHER than scoring, right?

just be honest that you don't really know much about the player already

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Gaborik for Boyle makes no sense for either team. The only way we can afford Boyle would be if the Sharks retain almost half his salary.
Exactly, its a pipe dream for both teams.

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Gaborik for Boyle makes no sense for either team. The only way we can afford Boyle would be if the Sharks retain almost half his salary.
He makes less than Gaborik, so I can't see how that's the case.

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STATS STATS STATS!

You do realize he brings things OTHER than scoring, right?

just be honest that you don't really know much about the player already
The Rangers problem is scoring goals... Clowe has 0 at the moment. whether its a down season or not is irrelevant. He can bring anything else to the team (size, grit, toughness, fighting) and he wont help what THE problem of this team is, scoring goals.

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The Rangers problem is scoring goals... Clowe has 0 at the moment. whether its a down season or not is irrelevant. He can bring anything else to the team (size, grit, toughness, fighting) and he wont help what THE problem of this team is, scoring goals.
Yes, because this team couldn't use anymore of that

wake up, the Rangers have even more problems then just scoring goals

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based on what he's done this year (and with him being an UFA), I fail to see how he would be an asset to us.
Big body left wing with experience that they can plug in various areas of the lineup. He doesn't even have to score, if he can effectively create space for a guy like Richards/Gabs; he will have been worth it. Lets be honest here, Clowe would be the most physical LW we would have on this team.

It can't hurt us, its worth a shot. If its a bust, you just don't resign the guy.

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He makes less than Gaborik, so I can't see how that's the case.
Gaborik wouldn't be going the other way. so we'd be adding 6,666,667 to the cap without Mcdonagh, Hagelin and stepan signed.

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STATS STATS STATS!

You do realize he brings things OTHER than scoring, right?

just be honest that you don't really know much about the player already
Well, that's why his shoulder injury is a concern.
Will he be tentative on the forecheck, can he drop'em?
The "intangibles" go out the window if he is playing through an injury, especially the shoulder.

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Yes, because this team couldn't use anymore of that

wake up, the Rangers have even more problems then just scoring goals
I'm not saying I wouldn't take him period. I already said he would be an upgrade to the bottom 6, but thats what we should be trying to buy him as, because thats the player he seems to be now.

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Well, that's why his shoulder injury is a concern.
Will he be tentative on the forecheck, can he drop'em?
The "intangibles" go out the window if he is playing through an injury, especially the shoulder.
Not doubting that at all, which is why you don't give up what the Sharks want to get him. In a bubble, which is what we are talking about, that's what he brings.

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