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08-09-2006, 11:52 AM
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who was the best paid rookie last season?

does anybody know?
maybe a list of the best paid top ten.

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08-09-2006, 12:04 PM
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does anybody know?
maybe a list of the best paid top ten.
I'm positive it was AO with all the boni that kicked in, he was just over 4 mil. SC was very close at 3.9 or something....

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08-09-2006, 12:36 PM
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Kari Lehtonen earned around $4 million as well last season. Not a bad paycheck for only 38 games.

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Depends if off-ice income is included or not. Crosby made the most in the NHL last year in advertising and similar income. His salary paled next to that.

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08-09-2006, 12:55 PM
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Depends if off-ice income is included or not. Crosby made the most in the NHL last year in advertising and similar income. His salary paled next to that.
ok first thanks to everybody for their replys.

i should specify it a little bit i just wanna know the salary of the rookies without boni or other stuff just the regular pay check.. i hope you understand my bad english

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The Dion, obviously. Think he made $450 k

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Is that an automatic response to any question with "best" and "rookie" in it ?

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Ovechkin had a bigger contract that Sid (cap hit anyways, not sure if he got all the bonuses). It was just over $4m.

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08-09-2006, 01:19 PM
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Ovechkin > Crosby

Just getting that out of the way.

So what are we talking about?

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I dont think Crosby made anything like $4 Million last year.

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Crosby's contract terms were largely a formality dictated by the NHL's new collective bargaining agreement limiting first-year players to $850,000 in salary and $850,000 in statistical and playing-time bonuses. Crosby could earn slightly more than $2 million more each season in team and league bonuses, but would have to be the league's rookie of the year, scoring leader and win the Hart trophy as the MVP.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hocke...tm?POE=SPOISVA

$850,000 in Base
$850,000 In Bonuses (assuming he got all these)

He wasnt rookie of the year, League Scoring Leader or league MVP so he wouldnt get any of those bonuses at all. So im not how much if any of the 2nd Tier Bonuses he made..... its possible he didnt get any of these at all.

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I dont think Crosby made anything like $4 Million last year.



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hocke...tm?POE=SPOISVA

$850,000 in Base
$850,000 In Bonuses (assuming he got all these)

He wasnt rookie of the year, League Scoring Leader or league MVP so he wouldnt get any of those bonuses at all. So im not how much if any of the 2nd Tier Bonuses he made..... its possible he didnt get any of these at all.
I think that someone once calculated his salary with bonuses at a shade over $3 million.

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It all depends on do you include the endorsment deals or not ???

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I dont think Crosby made anything like $4 Million last year.
His cap hit last year was $3.7M according to the Excel sheet of leaked figures that was circulating around here recently. That means he did hit all his contract's bonuses ($850K + $850K + $2M). The league-paid bonuses for Calder award etc don't count towards the cap.

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Matt Carle made $942,000 for showing up in the middle of March.

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His cap hit last year was $3.7M according to the Excel sheet of leaked figures that was circulating around here recently. That means he did hit all his contract's bonuses ($850K + $850K + $2M). The league-paid bonuses for Calder award etc don't count towards the cap.
The cap hit includes all bonuses, whether hit or not.

The total bonuses actually earned only effects the cap in calculating any Cap excess that is charged the following season - like ATL and Bondra. A team may exceed the cap by up to 7.5% during the season based on performance bonuses, hit or not. If the final actual bonuses earned put them over the cap at the end of the season, that excess is charged against the next season's cap.

AO would be the likely answer, since as a 2004 draftee his ELS Max Salary is based on the old CBA (minus 24%) - $984K vs $850K - with the same Max Performance Bonus limits of the new CBA - $850K + $2M.

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His cap hit last year was $3.7M according to the Excel sheet of leaked figures that was circulating around here recently. That means he did hit all his contract's bonuses ($850K + $850K + $2M). The league-paid bonuses for Calder award etc don't count towards the cap.
Link me to that sheet, it'll be nice to have a look at it.

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The cap hit includes all bonuses, whether hit or not.

The total bonuses actually earned only effects the cap in calculating any Cap excess that is charged the following season - like ATL and Bondra.
I don't think this is true. See Section 50.5(h)(i) of the CBA. When a performance bonus becomes impossible to attain, it no longer counts towards the cap for the remainder of the season and thus opens up payroll room.

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Ovechkin > Crosby

Just getting that out of the way.

So what are we talking about?

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ok first thanks to everybody for their replys.

i should specify it a little bit i just wanna know the salary of the rookies without boni or other stuff just the regular pay check.. i hope you understand my bad english

Ovechkin - $984,200

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Matt Carle made $942,000 for showing up in the middle of March.
That may have been his SPC's Paragraph 1 Salary, but he did NOT earn that much

That was the Max Salary (Salary plus Signing Bonuses) for a 2003 draftee ($942,400), but he didn't actually earn that much.

The max signing bonus was 30% (or $282,720). Any salary beyond that is prorated based on the number of days on the roster - 27 days based on Irish Blues spreadsheets.

The min he earned was $129,820 ($942.4K * 27/196).

The max he could have earned was $373,594 ($282,720 signing bonus plus ($942,400 - $282,720) * 27/196 = $90,874)

IB's spreadsheet has him as a 05-06 cap hit of $129,820, which implies no signing bonus, or just lack of data.

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I don't think this is true. See Section 50.5(h)(i) of the CBA. When a performance bonus becomes impossible to attain, it no longer counts towards the cap for the remainder of the season and thus opens up payroll room.
I was intentionally glossing over that, since that pertained to impossible to earn bonuses, rather than unearned ones.

There aren't many Exhibit 5 Individual "A" or "B" ELS bonuses that can become mathematiclly impossible to earn during the course of the regular season - theoretically a player could score 50 goals in his final game. There are more for Goalies than Skaters.

Games played bonuses (as opposed to Exhibit 5 performance bonuses) are included in the ELS Salary Limit ($850K / $942K / $984K).

For a Forward the only Impossible to Earn Individual "A" ELS bonuses are Aggregate Ice Time, All Star Game selection/MVP, and Avg Icetime, Pts/Gm and +/- based on a minimum of 42 games played.

The Individual "A" Bonuses for a forward may only be (max $212,500 per category and $850K total) for:

(i) Ice Time (aggregate or per/game avg)
(ii) Goals - 20 Goal minimum
(iii) Assists - 35 Assist minimum
(iv) Points - 60 Point minimum
(v) Points per game
(vi) Plus/Minus
(vii) End of Season NHL Rookie Team
(viii) NHL Allstar Game selection
(ix) NHL Allstar Game MVP

All of the Individual "B" Bonuses are based on either end of season league trophy finishes or top 10 finishes in a statistical category - none of which except for top 10 pts/gm and top 10 aggregate or average icetime (D-Man only) can become impossible to earn during the season. The pts/game and avg icetime require 42 games minimum.

For a goalie there are more "Impossible to Earn" bonues - "A" bonuses: icetime, wins, shutouts, ASG selection/MVP, GAA (25 game minimum) and Sv %-ag (25 game minimum); "B" bonuses: top 5 in Wins, Top 5 in GAA or Sv %-age (25 game minimum).

I suppose also, that near the end of the season a player who is on IR and not elligible to return (7 days for IR, 10 games/24 days for the Bona Fide Long Term Injury Exception) before the end of the season would have any outstanding unearned regular season bonuses count as "impossible to Earn".

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Ovechkin > Crosby

Just getting that out of the way.

So what are we talking about?

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Matt Carle made $942,000 for showing up in the middle of March.
No, he got a 242,000 signing bonus and then something like 900,000 in annual salary. But he didn't get the full amount for last year since he didn't play in all the games.

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