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[CGY/PIT] Jarome Iginla for Kenneth Agostino, Ben Hanowski, 2013 1st rounder - Part 2

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03-28-2013, 09:39 AM
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why wasnt boston willing to offer a 1st rounder?
bizzarre
It didn't matter, Jarome had his mind made up.

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03-28-2013, 09:40 AM
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I'm not sure I'd say "royally".

If Boston really wanted him they could have offered more. They didn't and they'll have to deal with it.
I don't think I said "royally" but you were probably referring to the pose I was responding to.

Re: Boston's offer - it sounds like they could have offered the moon and Iggy would have still chosen Pittsburgh. It also sounds like everybody on the Boston side did their jobs (Including Neely and the security guard mentioned a long time ago now) but just didn't get the break.

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lol at the bitter Bruins fans but I guess after last nights game and waking up to this news you can't blame them.

Don't blame Iggy. He has a much better chance at a cup with the Pens then the Bruins. This Bruins team is not like in years past.

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Exactly, Martin and Orpik will be gone to make room for our young D's that will be pretty much making 875 000 for 3 years. Anyways I still think the Cap will be going up again in a few years
Exactly. Speculating that the Pens' will be in cap trouble "down the road" is such a Chicken Little comment.

One, who knows what the cap will be in a few years, and two...maybe someone else gets traded, turns terrible and gets bought out, or god forbid dies in a car accident (which I believe voids a contract, doesn't it?). Who gives a damn about a few years from now? You play to win today.

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why wasnt boston willing to offer a 1st rounder?
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Jarome had final say. I doubt it mattered.

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I'm not sure I'd say "royally". The Boston offer wasn't much better - in fact if the 1st was conditional it was worse.

If Boston really wanted him they could have offered more. They didn't and they'll have to deal with it.
I don't think this is accurate. A PPG OHL player and a 6/7th NHL defenseman is a lot more than what Pittsburgh offered regardless of the conditions of the draft pick.

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Everyones knew this.

People have been saying this for at least 2/3 years now. They saw the writing on the wall. The Flames organization did not. This is EXACTLY what happened in Toronto 6-7 years ago. Thought adding 1 or 2 more veterans (i.e. Jason Blake or Mike Cammalleri/Jiri Hudler, etc) would help them contend.

If I were a Flames fan, I'd honestly sit back and come to grips with the fact it is going to be at LEAST 4-5 years before they even start talking playoffs. One or two top picks are nice but as the Oilers/Leafs/Blue Jackets/Isles/Panthers have shown, it can take YEARS before you're a "good" team again (if ever!).
This must be from an Oilers fan. It does not in any way take that long to build a playoff team. Those are inept franchises with far bigger problems. The leafs are potentially the only exception there.

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Exactly, Martin and Orpik will be gone to make room for our young D's that will be pretty much making 875 000 for 3 years. Anyways I still think the Cap will be going up again in a few years
BINGO! The Flames waited too long and should have committed to a full rebuild a couple of years ago and they would be in a much better spot today.

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03-28-2013, 09:43 AM
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I don't think this is accurate. A PPG OHL player and a 6/7th NHL defenseman is a lot more than what Pittsburgh offered regardless of the conditions of the draft pick.
No. The two Pitts picks have the larger upside.

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went to sleep with the news that he was a bruin, woke up to the news that he's a pen. the only thing that was consistent in the two was Calgary was getting fleeced in both deals

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Iginla royally ****ed over his franchise and the GM with his dick move.

Wants to take the easy way to the Cup, where he is simply a passenger? Alright, I hope karma never let's him win a Cup, ever.

This trade is putrid for Calgary, lol.
Iginla a passenger to the cup? You sure are a little bitter, have a glass of milk and take a deep breath.

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Iginla royally ****ed over his franchise and the GM with his dick move.

Wants to take the easy way to the Cup, where he is simply a passenger? Alright, I hope karma never let's him win a Cup, ever.

This trade is putrid for Calgary, lol.
Odd that a Boston fan would think that a player being forced to leave the only team he's played for in his career screwed over his GM and team... I wonder why you think that?

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Iginla a passenger to the cup? You sure are a little bitter, have a glass of milk and take a deep breath.
Look at his user name. He's a bitter Boston fan. Iggy will be back with the Flames and he's earned us some free goodies.

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Iginla royally ****ed over his franchise and the GM with his dick move.

Wants to take the easy way to the Cup, where he is simply a passenger? Alright, I hope karma never let's him win a Cup, ever.

This trade is putrid for Calgary, lol.
I think I got it...don't tell me...uh...bitter Boston fan? Knew it.

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So... Still waiting to hear who the hell ken agostino and ben hankowski are.
Two of Pittsburgh top prospects.

Just because you don't know them doesn't mean they are nobodys.

They are college prospects so most people have never heard of them, but both are developing nicely.

For a declining rental player in shortened season, considering Calgary also upgraded from a conditional to guaranteed 1st, Feaster got a good deal.

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03-28-2013, 09:48 AM
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What was the reported package from Boston? Didn't hear any of the news last night.

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03-28-2013, 09:51 AM
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What was the reported package from Boston? Didn't hear any of the news last night.
General concensus when I went to bed was conditional 1st + Khokhlachev + Bartowski

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Odd that a Boston fan would think that a player being forced to leave the only team he's played for in his career screwed over his GM and team... I wonder why you think that?
This is pure gold

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I am happy for Iginla to get a shot at the cup.something he would never get in calgary if he spent the rest of his hockey days there.he has done so much for the flames franchise and city.he has earned the right of choosing a team that he felt would give him the best chance at a cup.sucks for the Boston team and fans but sure am happy as a iginla and penguins fan.great day to be a penguins fan from calgary!!!

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Holy **** are people actually arguing that the pens return is better than the bruins return?

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What was the reported package from Boston? Didn't hear any of the news last night.
Conditional first (on Iginla re-signing there), Khokhlachev, Bartkowski

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Two of Pittsburgh top prospects.

Just because you don't know them doesn't mean they are nobodys.

They are college prospects so most people have never heard of them, but both are developing nicely.

For a declining rental player in shortened season, considering Calgary also upgraded from a conditional to guaranteed 1st, Feaster got a good deal.
If by "top prospects" you mean "outside their top 10", then yes.

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Poor Flames fans. What a terrible trade.
Don't feel sorry for us. Its a great day to be a Flames fan. It is a new beginning. Flames can finally move forward.

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You guys got crap in the Bourque trade but at the end of the day the trade was made for 1 reason and 1 reason only. Deciding to join the Avs clearly better then anyone else he took the easy road to the Cup and i'm sure everyone in Boston was happy seeing him lift that Cup he had deserved all of his career
Bourque wanted to go to Philly.

The Bruins sent him to Colorado because they thought it would be best for him.

If I remember right the return from Philly in trade was worse.

In the end-I don't blame Iginla for wanting to go to the Pens, but he should have been honest with Feaster that he only wanted to go to the Pens so Feaster wasn't working deals with other teams.

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Two of Pittsburgh top prospects.

Just because you don't know them doesn't mean they are nobodys.

They are college prospects so most people have never heard of them, but both are developing nicely.

For a declining rental player in shortened season, considering Calgary also upgraded from a conditional to guaranteed 1st, Feaster got a good deal.
WHAT????? Those two are nowhere near being two of Pittsburgh's top prospects

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So... Still waiting to hear who the hell ken agostino and ben hankowski are.
Hanowski could turn into a nice NHL scorer. I've always liked him.

He's not worth being a prime piece for Jarome Iginla, of course, but he's a decent get.

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