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03-28-2013, 04:02 AM
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This team was in deep trouble long before Feaster arrived.

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03-28-2013, 04:42 AM
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Feaster said today that hes not ready for a full rebuild, so that would explain the piss poor return on Jarome.
So basically Iginla said "I want to go to Pittsburgh." and Feaster had to take what Shero would give him.

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03-28-2013, 04:43 AM
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So basically Iginla said "I want to go to Pittsburgh." and Feaster had to take what Shero would give him.
No Feaster had 3 offers, asked Iggy which team he wanted out of the 3 and he wanted Pitts so Feaster took a worse return to make sure Iggy was happy.

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03-28-2013, 05:41 AM
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Never Hudlinator got it.

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03-28-2013, 05:49 AM
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Feaster isn't going to get fired. I'm pretty sure that the ownership approved the Iginla trade before it took place.

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03-28-2013, 05:51 AM
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I understand that Feaster had his hands tied with the NTC and the fact that Iginla is a rental, but... the Flames still got fleeced. Two middling prospects who are most likely not going to be impact players and a late first round pick (likely 25-30 range)?

Even Kaberle got a 1st, 2nd and Colborne as a rental.

And heck, in my opinion Joe Morrow > 2 middle prospects + late first rounder but Iginla >>> B. Morrow

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03-28-2013, 05:57 AM
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I had a nice conversation about the flames and the trade on FAN 960 last night

http://youtu.be/_NzsrHfIG04


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No Feaster had 3 offers, asked Iggy which team he wanted out of the 3 and he wanted Pitts so Feaster took a worse return to make sure Iggy was happy.
No, Feaster had no choice. Iggy very well could have said Pittsburgh or no trade, I walk and you get jack ****.

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03-28-2013, 06:15 AM
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How much trouble is this team in? Iginla gets traded for basically a 5th defencemen and a prospect that may never come to the NHL and a 1st round pick that is conditional. You can not blame Feaster alone on this deal, Murray Edwards the majority owner had a hand in this trade. Do you guys think the Flames will be able to rebound from this? I don't think Feaster is the one who should be in charge of this. The demise of this franchise happened when Hotchkiss passed away.
They'll be in trouble for a few years, but now that they're finally dismantling the team they should be able to rebuild with some high picks.

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03-28-2013, 07:14 AM
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How is this even fair?
I feel bad for you guys.
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Feaster said today that hes not ready for a full rebuild, so that would explain the piss poor return on Jarome.
Is it him saying that or ownership? Either way the guy has proven to be a pretty bad GM.
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Yeah, that's why he claims he wanted "collegiate level" prospects who are old enough to be ready to play in the NHL

What a joke.
The Flames are just making things harder on themselves.
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I really think they will regret not going for a better prospect for Jarome. ither that or trade Glencross, who would fetch more.

Either way, this trade will not make or break them. Their bread and butter will be drafting well in the next few years to build their base.

Jury is still out on Feaster.
This trade won't break them but it sure could've helped them with the future. It's a real missed opportunity for sure.

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03-28-2013, 08:17 AM
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The team's stars were getting old and they are starting to rebuild, I don't see the issue. Some teams have to finish at the bottom. Who knows, Calgary could have MacKinnon and Ekblad along with 2 or 3 other 1st round picks in their system in just over 15 months.

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03-28-2013, 08:34 AM
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But at least our franchise player didn't refuse to waive his NTC and walk as a UFA.
Yeah instead he got trade for almost nothing. Wow.

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03-28-2013, 10:02 AM
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It's the beginning of the rebuild. Things don't usually look good at very start.
This. As well, rebuilds can be full of further pain and disappointments and become protracted as well. Rebuilding is usually not easy.

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03-28-2013, 10:03 AM
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How much trouble is this team in? Iginla gets traded for basically a 5th defencemen and a prospect that may never come to the NHL and a 1st round pick that is conditional. You can not blame Feaster alone on this deal, Murray Edwards the majority owner had a hand in this trade. Do you guys think the Flames will be able to rebound from this? I don't think Feaster is the one who should be in charge of this. The demise of this franchise happened when Hotchkiss passed away.
Not if iggy signs w cgy in the off-season.

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03-28-2013, 10:04 AM
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What's this bs Feaster was puking out of his mouth about not having a scorched earth rebuild? haha what a piece of ****

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03-28-2013, 10:04 AM
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With a GM as clueless as Feaster? Lots of trouble.

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03-28-2013, 10:06 AM
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The Iginla situation in Calgary may have been the worst asset management I've ever seen. If they traded him last year when the team also sucked, they'd have gotten A LOT more than what they got now.

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03-28-2013, 10:08 AM
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The Iginla situation in Calgary may have been the worst asset management I've ever seen. If they traded him last year when the team also sucked, they'd have gotten A LOT more than what they got now.
They intended to go to the playoffs in the past 3 years though.

Feaster knew this team had potential to do that!

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03-28-2013, 10:15 AM
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They intended to go to the playoffs in the past 3 years though.

Feaster knew this team had potential to do that!
And everybody outside of Calgary knew that they did not.

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03-28-2013, 10:22 AM
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And everybody outside of Calgary knew that they did not.
Mmhmm.

But as an Oiler fan, I'm glad they held onto him until their knuckles turned white.
Look at the wicked return!

Feaster is going to be eating his damn words

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I’m sorry — Edmonton finished where last year, caller? Want to wager on where we finish relative to Edmonton this year? I’m tired of this question, I’ll tell you very honestly. I’m getting a little sour. How many teams . . . every year, for the last 10 years, five years, eight years, have finished in the bottom five, bottom seven, bottom 10? They’ve had a pick anywhere from No. 1 to No. 10 year after year after year after year, and they still wander in the desert. And they’re no closer to getting out than they were 10 years ago.

You know what? I look forward to the Battle of Alberta for the next X number of years. If the idea is, ‘Burn it to the ground,’ then (Flames president) Ken (King) can find another manager to do it
hahahaha What a god damn joke he is.
I'm really sad he didn't get Ryan O'Reilly... O wait.

Makes Tambo look like Shero.

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03-28-2013, 10:26 AM
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their problem started two seasons ago...

they started the season terribly, with the fan/media base already talking about moving toward a re-build, but then they had a great 2nd 1/2 of the season. Even though they still missed the playoffs, they were 2nd or 3rd in the league during the 2nd 1/2 of the season, giving everyone a false sense that in 2011-2012, the team would be a sure bet to make the playoffs.

2011-12 started bad again, and again they had a better 2nd half. Instead of seeing the writing on the wall and getting a premium return for Iggy/Kipper, they opted to re-jig things on the fly, brining in a new coach & spending big on two mid-level UFA's (Hudler, Wideman).

now the wheels have fully fallen off, no more chance to pretend this group is a playoff team, let alone cup contender... and their stuck trying to salvage whatever they can for the assets they have.


gambled and lost, and from what i've seen/heard, I think ownership was driving this ship all the way. As much as Sutter set them up with some bad contracts, i think part of the reason they replaced him with Feaster is that he wanted to re-build 2 years ago, whereas Feaster just told the owners what they wanted to hear (we can do it without a re-build).

won't happen, but the guy who probably needs to go in all of this is Ken King... instead Feaster will be the sacrificial lamb, this summer or next, and they'll be starting over once again.


feel bad for the Flames fans, really don't have much elite young talent to show for 4 straight years with no playoffs (and 8 straight years without even a first round win).

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03-28-2013, 10:31 AM
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This team was in deep trouble long before Feaster arrived.
The fact that they hired Feaster kind of proves that.

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03-28-2013, 10:37 AM
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Best part is, this could have all been avoided if not for the NMC/NTC.
But Calgary gives them out as a prize for signing with them, so management can save on salary costs.

But hey, keep it up! Not complaining.

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03-28-2013, 10:50 AM
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Makes Tambo look like Shero.
Wouldn't quite go that far, Tambo is easily the worst GM in the league for my money. Nothing but assets, let them waste away into a sea of failed potential. Since he took over the Oilers have never done better than 4th in their division. That's unnaceptable. Feaster has a ways to go to reach that level of futility.

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03-28-2013, 10:52 AM
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Its pathetic the high amount of bandwagoners in Calgary.

Traded to Boston: What? Whos he gonna play with there? Fans obviously dont care much

Traded to Pens: Oh pens are gonna win the cup, playing with Sidney Crosby! The golden boy!

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