I don't think that very fair to Nieuwendyk. He's traded Neal, Ott, Ribeiro, Ryder, Niskanen, Grossman, and Fistric. He attempted to trade Richards. Obviously his reasoning and execution of those trades has been questionable, but he has shown a willingness to move assets. Hopefully he continues to trade players as we approach the trade deadline. If he messes up handling Roy then I might change my views.
If they're adamant about the 1st that I can compromise on, I would just request another prospect too or their 2nd in next year's draft too. Perhaps Khokhlachev, 2nd 2013, 2nd 2014 spreads things out enough that Boston doesn't feel like they got pillaged and Dallas gets good assets in return, even if they have to wait a year on adding one.
Q: What sort of offer would it take for the Stars to deal Jagr? First rounder and a top prospect similar to Joe Morrow?
A: That seems high to me. I would think a Morrow-like prospect would be enough. But again, I'm not sure how they are viewing this. They want to do what's best for the player, too.
I think that's doable. I just assumed when everyone was saying blown away they were talking 1st round picks and top prospects.
I could see LA giving Dallas a decent prospect. Boston ... ehh ... IDK. I would not be surprised at all if they weren't in to KoKo, but I think that would be Boston's offer.
EDIT: Well ... then there is this [Important background. When previously discussing Jagr, he mentioned that trading him would mean they couldn't sign him. That's why I asked this question.]
Q: Why do you think the teams feels trading Jagr would mean he wouldn't sign? As long as they are open and honest about the process with him, why would he be angry? Jagr lives and breathes hockey. I find it hard to believe he wouldn't want an opportunity for playoff hockey. If anything, I think he'd appreciate being moved to a contender only to return to Dallas in the summer via a new contract.
A: I think he's made it clear to them that he wants to be wanted and he wants to build consistency. This is his first run in the West, and he's still adjusting. He likes to feel comfortable, and he is a difficult guy to read at times. While we can sit here and map out a plan of what we think is logical for the organization and what will bring the most assets in return, the people in charge are still dealing with humans and their personalities. Some of it is feel. I think they just feel that if they let Jagr go, they will not get him back.
Q: Stephane Robidas and Brenden Dillon have looked like a solid, legitimate Top 4 pair. Still, the team has 4 smaller D, and several young D progressing nicely in the AHL. Acquiring Joe Morrow adds another potential NHL defender in 2013-14 as well. This seems to be a sellers market. Do you think the Dallas Stars have considered trading Stephane Robidas in order to receive maximum value?
A: I just think they like what he gives them. I know there is the feeling that the Stars need to rebuild, but having someone like Robidas around is part of the rebuild. He has meant so much to Dillon both on and off the ice, and the Stars could reap the benefit of this relationship for the next decade. I would consider trading Robidas, but I would have to be blown away by the offer. If you get someone to play in the top pair, then you can always trade Robidas in the summer or even next season.
Q: Mike, I'm not crazy to assume the Stars hold onto Robidas unless they get an offer that blows them away, am I?
A: Nope, they like Robidas and want to keep him. He only becomes expendable if the team gets a No. 1 defenseman, and then has to ponder moving Robidas, Daley or Goligoski (even then, I'm not sure Robidas is the first choice to go). That said, if someone knocks them out with an offer, they have to consider it (especially if they lose these next two games).
Really I like Jagr and could understand if that's how he feels but is his not returning the end of the world if you get an NHL ready prospect like Khokhlachev back? Jagr does bring things to the table that no one else does but as long as Whitney is in the locker room I'm not too concerned about needing another veteran voice, even if it is the hall of famer.
What's best for Dallas? 15 more games of Jagr and the possibility he returns next year or 6 years of control for a young NHL ready asset plus a pick? The math on this seems pretty clear especially since there's probably going to be some roster turnover this summer anyway.
If GMJN doesn't move Jagr in this market he is a ****ing moron. The same goes for Robidas and Roy. We have several pieces other teams want. Robidas in particular with his recent play, additional year on his contract, and reputation could get a good deal.
How would Stars fans feel about Robidas to the Kings?
It would almost be like when the Kings traded Norstrom to Dallas a few years back