Quick, Guigs etc had great performances but Thomas was the best imo. Well, little shaky against Montreal and not at his best against Tampa but still the best imo.
Quick was great but his D played better and the rest of the team was on a magical run.
Giguere's run was at the height of dead-puck era with, almost ridiculous equipment and Babcock's trap system in full charge.IIRC, he was great, an absolute stud in the first two series but not so much against Wild. Not that he was bad but he didn't have to, Ducks D kept Anaheim at bay and Wild had rather unflattering series. Wasn't that great in finals. Again, he was great but Thomas was better imo.
Giguere's run was at the height of dead-puck era with, almost ridiculous equipment and Babcock's trap system in full charge.IIRC, he was great, an absolute stud in the first two series but not so much against Wild.
In four games against the Wild, he allowed a total of one goal. What were you expecting him to do beyond that?
Cam Ward played so bad he was benched in the Eastern Conference Finals against Buffalo. He should not be in the discussion at all.
Quick was great last year but the Kings were excellent defensively and they played some popgun offenses for sure. Anybody saying Quick had the greatest run ever probably has only started watching hockey since 2006.
This is a pretty ridiculous statement. Yes, he was benched for one game but I seem to remember he won the Conn Smythe that year, did he not?
Roy in both '86 and '93, as a 20 year old rookie and behind a mediocre defense that had just enough scoring in the clutch. What puts Roy above the other Cup Greats in net, is he did the most with the least amount of talented players in front of him.
Brodeur, has been quoted saying that Roy was the goalie he most admired for how he played the game.
I can't see why you would put Giguere #1. Somewhere up high for sure, but he never won the Cup which we have to take into account. Secondly, he was dynamite for three rounds but ordinary in the Cup final. Combine all of that and I still think he deserved the Smythe (I am not one of those bitter people who think Brodeur got "robbed" of it) because no one was better that spring but I would put a couple of goalies ahead of him for sure, at least.
Roy in 1986 and 1993 for starters. Neither team had a game breaker or an elite forward. Mats Naslund in 1986? If you want to say so, but would you consider him "great"? Montreal had been listless for so long by 1986 and no one imagined them winning it anytime soon, but Roy changed all of that. 1993 has the overtime record and taking a good but not great team to the promised land. Giguere depreciated in value in the Cup final, Roy did not in either one.
Thomas is a decent comparable to Giguere in 2003. Thomas hit his climax in the Cup final against Vancouver. Never had a bad game in the final, not one. Also didn't have a forward to break the game open. Boston had a balanced attack, which was nice, but no game breaker.
Dryden is another name you have to bring up from 1971. No one imagined even a team of HHOFers like Montreal to touch Boston. And don't let the GAA fool you, Dryden robbed the Bruins that spring.
I also don't think you can put Giguere above Parent in either one of 1974 or 1975. He didn't have anything near a HHOF defenseman in front of him. Definitely the most important Flyer.
Lastly, Billy Smith in 1983. How do you keep the Oilers to that few goals?
Terry Sawchuk in 1952. Wow. The numbers are ungodly. Also did this against Montreal.
So somewhere in that mix you find Giguere, but not #1.
I've seen it before - that doesn't mean that I approve of it.
And yes, I took you at your word - which was that the discussion should be ended. Should I not be taking you at your word in the future?
You can't tell me you think that "end thread" is a literal term on here can you? If anything I've always felt it was an invitation to get challenged.
Originally Posted by hockeypuck2012
Grant Fuhr ?
I think he is on a very short list of goalies where if you wanted someone in a Game 7 he'd be right there with the best. However, the one thing with Fuhr is that he doesn't have that stand out playoff year. I think the 1987 Canada Cup is more or less his trademark. He was just always a clutch goalie for the Oilers and sometimes gets underappreciated because there are so many HHOFers on that dynasty. But for every Cup you always put Gretzky #1, so there really wasn't the chance for Fuhr to stand out.