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03-27-2013, 04:33 AM
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Interesting and not so interesting facts about hockey.

I ran in to a few unimportant random facts when reading Pro hockey issue today. I started wondering how much useless trivia do you guys have about hockey and it might be fun to list these in this thread. (Not sure if there has sometime been a thread like this, but i could not find one trough search)

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Did you know that Gordie Howe played agains Dit Clapper as a rookie, who had his debut in November 1927

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...clappdi01.html

Howe also played against Mark Messier who played his last game in March 2004.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...messima01.html

That is a time-span of over 76 years in which it is possible to "link" Howe in.

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Good idea for a thread.


I always thought Ken Dryden winning the Conn Smythe a year before he won the rookie of the year award as one of the more interesting and bizarre facts.

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Mike Sillinger has been linked to within six degrees of every player in NHL history.

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Mike Sillinger has been linked to within six degrees of every player in NHL history.
I'm not sure if it's still true today, but for a long time even after his retirement, he could still be linked by 2 degrees to every active player on an NHL roster because at least one player on every team played with him at some point.

We really do need a 6 degrees of separation on here with the stipulation that Sillinger, Howe and Messier (and Chelios?) not be used. Those are always fun.

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I'm not sure if it's still true today, but for a long time even after his retirement, he could still be linked by 2 degrees to every active player on an NHL roster because at least one player on every team played with him at some point.

We really do need a 6 degrees of separation on here with the stipulation that Sillinger, Howe and Messier (and Chelios?) not be used. Those are always fun.
Brent Ashton is a fun guy to use it and still can be uses today.

but for current times

Alex Auld, Dom moore, Randy Robatiale and Jonathen Sim are great routes now

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The 2009-10 Bruins had the worst offense in the NHL, but scored 3 goals in 1:04, all shorthanded on the same penalty kill against the Hurricanes.

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Good idea for a thread.


I always thought Ken Dryden winning the Conn Smythe a year before he won the rookie of the year award as one of the more interesting and bizarre facts.
Kris Draper made his NHL debut before making his OHL and AHL debut.

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The 1976-'77 Canadiens are considered the best team of all-time. However, in one of the 8 games they lost that year they lost 7-2 to a lousy St. Louis team. How in the world that team beat Montreal by the score of 7-2 is beyond me. It was a road game for Montreal, but still. The Habs only lost one home game all year - to Boston - but tied the Colorado Rockies 3-3 early in the year, somehow. The rest of their losses make sense outside of St. Louis. Buffalo (2), Boston (3), Toronto and the Rangers are the other teams. That team went 2-3 against Boston in the regular season and yet swept them in the Cup final when they met.

Mark Messier never had a penalty shot in his career.

Mario Lemieux, Mark Messier and Gordie Howe have 0 playoff overtime goals between them. Hard to believe, three of the greatest playoff performers never scored in overtime.

Orr, Gretzky, Howe and Lemieux all were 27 or younger when they won their last Cup.

Anyone else unable to fathom how Scott Gomez led the NHL in assists once?

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The Seals had a 12-game, one-month homestand during the 75-76 season! It was from November 26 through December 28. The home cooking didn't help as they went 4-7-1, finishing with a loss to the Kansas City Scouts!

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The best + and - stat of forward / season played (1967-2013) is Mike Bossy with +41.
Second is Bobby Clarke with +37

I am not exactly sure what this stat means but i would guess that it is the combined +/- divided by amount of seasons played. I read this in a Finnish magazine too, so I did not check it personally.

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2011 was the only time the Ducks and the Kings made the playoffs in the same year.

Guy Charron played 734 games w/o ever making the playoffs.

Dave Christian scored 7 seconds in his NHL career.

Taro Tsujimoto drafted by the Penguins in 1974 from the Japanese Elite League didn't exist.

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Taro Tsujimoto drafted by the Penguins in 1974 from the Japanese Elite League didn't exist.
Pretty sure that was Buffalo.

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Pretty sure that was Buffalo.
Yup, my memory skips by me sometimes. Buffalo - Pittsburgh, its all the same

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I know there are a lot brothers who end up in the league (especially compared to other sports). But am I the only person who finds it interesting the Gretzky, Howe, Lemieux and Lindros all had brothers who appeared in the NHL but whose careers were completely without distinction. I think Alain Lemieux had the best out of the four forgotten brothers with something like 150 games and 80 points over a number of years. The other brothers had just a handful of appearances between them.

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I know there are a lot brothers who end up in the league (especially compared to other sports). But am I the only person who finds it interesting the Gretzky, Howe, Lemieux and Lindros all had brothers who appeared in the NHL but whose careers were completely without distinction. I think Alain Lemieux had the best out of the four forgotten brothers with something like 150 games and 80 points over a number of years. The other brothers had just a handful of appearances between them.
I think you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone around here who thinks Mark Howe's career was without distinction. Certainly no Gordie, but Mark did very very well for himself.

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I think you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone around here who thinks Mark Howe's career was without distinction. Certainly no Gordie, but Mark did very very well for himself.
I thought Mark Howe was his son? I was talking about Vic.

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Mark Howe is Gordies son, not his brother.

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I thought Mark Howe was his son? I was talking about Vic.
Ahhh, whoops! Correct you are.

Gordie + Vic were brothers. Mark and Marty were sons of Gordie. Vic and Marty did not do much at the NHL level.

Now excuse me while I go wipe this egg off my face.

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Ahhh, whoops! Correct you are.

Gordie + Vic were brothers. Mark and Marty were sons of Gordie. Vic and Marty did not do much at the NHL level.

Now excuse me while I go wipe this egg off my face.
Well, you did demonstrate my point about Vic's career.

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Well, you did demonstrate my point about Vic's career.
Indeed. And Marty's.

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While on the topic of brothers, Rich is the only Sutter brother to have neither worked nor played for the Calgary Flames.

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I know there are a lot brothers who end up in the league (especially compared to other sports). But am I the only person who finds it interesting the Gretzky, Howe, Lemieux and Lindros all had brothers who appeared in the NHL but whose careers were completely without distinction. I think Alain Lemieux had the best out of the four forgotten brothers with something like 150 games and 80 points over a number of years. The other brothers had just a handful of appearances between them.
Larry Robinson had a brother, Moe, who played one game with the Habs and Larry.

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Larry Robinson had a brother, Moe, who played one game with the Habs and Larry.
Curly was cut by the Flyers during training camp. Would'a been good!

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Curly was cut by the Flyers during training camp. Would'a been good!
...ya, fallen arches. Older than Larry & Moe though. Suffered when catching a
piano dropped from a 3rd floor window by Maurice Richard while helping him move.

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Is the "bad brother" phenomenon down to poor scouting?

Did teams at one point think: "Hey this really good player we have has a brother who knows how to skate, let's try him out."?

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