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12-21-2003, 06:33 AM
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Detroits best 1st round pick since 1990 and worst 1st round pick since 1990?

1990: Keith Primeau
1991: Martin Lapointe
1992: Curtis Bowen
1993: Anders Eriksson
1994: Yan Golubovsky
1995: Maxim Kuznetsov
1996: Jesse Wallin
1998: Jiri Fischer
2000: Niklas Kronwall

Best: Jiri Fischer
Worst: Curtis Bowen

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12-21-2003, 07:17 AM
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I would have to say now that Martin Lapointe was the best pick. If Fisher had retained his form from before his injury, which I thought had Norris Trophy potential, then I would have said him. He is having a horrible season so far im my humble estimation.

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12-21-2003, 07:37 AM
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Detroits best 1st round pick since 1990 and worst 1st round pick since 1990?

1990: Keith Primeau
1991: Martin Lapointe
1992: Curtis Bowen
1993: Anders Eriksson
1994: Yan Golubovsky
1995: Maxim Kuznetsov
1996: Jesse Wallin
1998: Jiri Fischer
2000: Niklas Kronwall

Best: Jiri Fischer
Worst: Curtis Bowen
Best: Primeau (Fischer should get there)
Worst: Bowen.

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12-21-2003, 09:00 AM
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Detroits best 1st round pick since 1990 and worst 1st round pick since 1990?

1990: Keith Primeau
1991: Martin Lapointe
1992: Curtis Bowen
1993: Anders Eriksson
1994: Yan Golubovsky
1995: Maxim Kuznetsov
1996: Jesse Wallin
1998: Jiri Fischer
2000: Niklas Kronwall

Best: Jiri Fischer
Worst: Curtis Bowen
agreed. Fischer has been by far the best one. He's still young and has tons of upside still left. Although when its all done and over with, it might be kronwall, which wouldnt be bad at all.

Bowen is the worst. Eriksson was horrible and so was golubovsky, but atleast they saw a few nhl games....

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12-21-2003, 09:03 AM
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Worst: Bowen is easily the worst.
Best: I would have picked Primeau but he had a bad relationship with Detroit so... Fischer.

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12-21-2003, 11:13 AM
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agreed. Fischer has been by far the best one. He's still young and has tons of upside still left. Although when its all done and over with, it might be kronwall, which wouldnt be bad at all.

Bowen is the worst. Eriksson was horrible and so was golubovsky, but atleast they saw a few nhl games....
Seriously, at this point, Fischer is still a prospect.
Primeau, however, is an established good player in the league.
How can Fischer rate ahead of Primeau?

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12-21-2003, 11:16 AM
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Best: Fischer...the Wings have done well with late first rounders
Worst: Bowen...the only player on that list that didn't actually get to play for the Wings

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Best: Primeau or Lapointe
Worst: 1992-1996

The Wings 1st round drafting record in the 1990's has been pretty bad, about as bad as Edmonton's; hindsight is 20/20, but the Wings took Primeau over Jagr in 1990.

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Seriously, at this point, Fischer is still a prospect.
Primeau, however, is an established good player in the league.
How can Fischer rate ahead of Primeau?
Because they are talking about the best pick and not the best player at this exact point, I would guess. Primeau is a third line center now, hasn't ever been more than a competent second liner in his career, and is likely within a year or two of being completely ineffective. Fischer, on the other hand, is already a second pairing defenseman and is likely (although not certain) to improve to a decent first pairing guy.

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best: lapointe ( fischer closely behind as his potential hasn't been fully seen yet )

worst: bowen as said above, never saw an nhl game

how can fischer be called a prospect? ... he's played how many games for us?... now kronwall, hudler, any of our european draftees.. now THEY'RE prospects prospects DO NOT have over a year's nhl experience under their belts.. if they do then they obviously aren't prospects no more

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Best: agreed with guiness, its between Primeau and Lapointe as far as I'm concerned. Both have had some solid seasons in their careers. At this point I choose either Primeau or Lapointe ahead of Fischer simply because I believe they've accomplished more. If you ask this question again in a few years time I could very well say Fischer.

Worst: Bowen. I mean... who?

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Longevity wise, I would say the best would be Lapointe...but I agree with you all when you say Fischer has the potential to be one of the best.

Worst - I never heard of Curtis Bowen, but amongst the ones I have heard of would be either Ericsson (whom I always disliked) or Golubovsky...whatever happened to him anyway?


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Best: Primeau. Fischer is not there quite yet.
Worst: Bowen. Easily.

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Primeau has gone on to have the best career of all those guys.

What was wrong with wings management in the early and mid 90's?
Bowen, Golubovsky, Eriksson, Kuznetsov, Wallin? They're all the same frickin' type of players!

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Longevity wise, I would say the best would be Lapointe...but I agree with you all when you say Fischer has the potential to be one of the best.

Worst - I never heard of Curtis Bowen, but amongst the ones I have heard of would be either Ericsson (whom I always disliked) or Golubovsky...whatever happened to him anyway?
We traded Golubovsky to Florida for Igor Larionov. Last year, Yan played for CSKA Moscow.

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Best: Primeau, because we turned him into Shanahan. Fischer will probably be the best when it's all said and done though.

Worst: Bowen, who never played in the NHL and didn't net us anything (whereas at least Eriksson helped get Chelios, Golubovsky brought Larianov, etc.)

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Primeau has gone on to have the best career of all those guys.
Especially by scoring the game winner against the Avs in the 97 WCF and with those Cups he helped us win in 97 and 98.

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thought i would do a little research:

Golubovsky is still playing, in the russian league
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php3?pid=10784

Bowen is playing in the "BISL" league and his stats arent even thrilling
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...?pid%5B%5D=524

and i duno, i guess wallin is playing in the AHL for lowell

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...id%5B%5D=20211

all 3 are huge pieces of shiot

just looking at the 1996 draft, wow, if you look at the first round, your definitly gonna laugh yourself to sleep, how a draft could be so bad amazes me, only 1-3 players are actaully worth being a first rounder


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