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03-29-2013, 01:17 AM
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What super skilled guys did Gaborik have in Minnesota and his first two years here?

Thats a total myth.

The guy just needs to be on his RW with a center who can keep up with him, of course, when he actually uses his speed.
Demitra and Brunette.

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He didnt play with Demitra much.

It was mostly Brunette and Walz, neither of which I would say are super skilled. Prospal and Christensen, either.

Hes had very average or below average pivots during his career.

He never played with Koivu either.

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He didnt play with Demitra much.

It was mostly Brunette and Walz, neither of which I would say are super skilled. Prospal and Christensen, either.

Hes had very average or below average pivots during his career.

He never played with Koivu either.
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He played with Demitra quite a bit. I remember him and Koivu never played together because they never had chemistry.

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What super skilled guys did Gaborik have in Minnesota and his first two years here?

Thats a total myth.

The guy just needs to be on his RW with a center who can keep up with him, of course, when he actually uses his speed.
Even in 2010, when he was centered by Christensen...he at least had some skill. EC was a complete warm body and a fringe NHLer, but he had hands and was a decent passer. He also had Prospal on his wing. Right now, he's playing with an up-and-down rookie and a garbage man.

That said, his play at times is inexcusable. I don't disagree that Gaborik looks out of place at LW, but his effort level shouldn't suffer because of that.

Torts really does need to move him back to RW, though. At least he was getting chances at RW. He might not have been finishing them, but he was objectively more effective there.

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He played with Demitra quite a bit. I remember him and Koivu never played together because they never had chemistry.

Thats not true. Demitra and Gaborik switched off and on with Radivojevic and Rolston in 2007-08.

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He needs to go. His play has been far too inconsistent. I'm sure we'll move him out only to see him resurrect his season somewhere else, but that shouldn't determine whether or not we keep him. Time to cut bait.

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I say keep Gaborik and play him as the #2 RW. What's more important, this 48 games with no camp, or a full 82 game season with a normal camp? I think Gabby tears it up next year for us and everyone goes back to calling him the best forward on the roster. (he's certainly the best scorer).

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I say keep Gaborik and play him as the #2 RW. What's more important, this 48 games with no camp, or a full 82 game season with a normal camp? I think Gabby tears it up next year for us and everyone goes back to calling him the best forward on the roster. (he's certainly the best scorer).
That's not happening with Nash and Callahan on the roster.

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That's not happening with Nash and Callahan on the roster.
Callahan should be the 3rd line RW. He has the 2 way game to be able to thrive in a checking or scoring role. That's why he is the more versatile player. Shouldn't he be playing on the 3rd line RW for the better of the team as captain? He's in a slump as well, why not try Gaborik there?

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03-29-2013, 06:55 AM
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If they trade him now, the Rangers would probably get a better deal than waiting to trade him at the draft am I right? It gives the other team 2 cracks in the playoffs with him instead of one. Gut feeling keeps saying LA, we've been scouting them for a long time, they missed out on Iginla, kinda makes sense.

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Other way around. Better deal at the draft.

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Other way around. Better deal at the draft.
How did that work out for Columbus with Rick Nash?

You may end up with more suitors in the offseason, though he's also less attractive being that you only get him for one playoff go-round. If you get a good offer now I think you jump on it. No guarantees his value increases over time. And what if he hurts himself after the deadline? Then you're all kinds of ****ed.

If the plan is to move him, I think you do it ASAP.

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I've been calling for him to be traded for nearly two months. The guy is useless out there. Time to let him go, he's been a good player for the Rangers but his time is up.

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I've been calling for him to be traded for nearly two months. The guy is useless out there. Time to let him go, he's been a good player for the Rangers but his time is up.
Sadly I think your right..........If it does happen the guy needs an appreciation thread cause 2 - 40 goal yrs is fantastic.

I think he's going to go somewhere else and light it up but it's just not working this yr. I can see why TSN analysts are saying two bottom 6 F and a Dman is what the Rangers are targeting. Its going to add depth they seem to be lacking

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What super skilled guys did Gaborik have in Minnesota and his first two years here?

Thats a total myth.

The guy just needs to be on his RW with a center who can keep up with him, of course, when he actually uses his speed.
If you don't think guys like Demitra, Christensen and Prospal were skilled, then I don't know what to tell you.

Playing him with Boyle and now Newbury is essentially burying him.

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I've been calling for him to be traded for nearly two months. The guy is useless out there. Time to let him go, he's been a good player for the Rangers but his time is up.
I have to ask, but where is the line drawn for Gaborik and why does Richards get your pass even though he has clearly been worse? I find it odd.

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How did that work out for Columbus with Rick Nash?

You may end up with more suitors in the offseason, though he's also less attractive being that you only get him for one playoff go-round. If you get a good offer now I think you jump on it. No guarantees his value increases over time. And what if he hurts himself after the deadline? Then you're all kinds of ****ed.

If the plan is to move him, I think you do it ASAP.
Yes exactly, if the organization is planning on trading him anyway and there's a solid deal being offered you make the deal.

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How did that work out for Columbus with Rick Nash?

You may end up with more suitors in the offseason, though he's also less attractive being that you only get him for one playoff go-round. If you get a good offer now I think you jump on it. No guarantees his value increases over time. And what if he hurts himself after the deadline? Then you're all kinds of ****ed.

If the plan is to move him, I think you do it ASAP.
Exactly. The longer you wait, the worse his goal-scoring drought looks. 2 goals in 15.. in 20.. in 25.. etc. Especially if you're giving him crap minutes and making him practice with Pyatt and Newbury.

Plus, every day you wait is another day that new players can hit the market. Vanek and Pominville possibly being available means Gaborik isn't even the most attractive option out there anymore.

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That's not happening with Nash and Callahan on the roster.
Yeah, our fearless leader with hands of cement. Jesus..

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This is a good team with two horrendously bad stars. hence an inconsistent seemingly lifeless season

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Trade anyone for the right price. But right now, I'm sorta on the side of not trading Gaborik.

He's coming off of shoulder surgery. A lot of players don't look the same for a season after a shoulder injury. Give him next season and a legit camp to prepare.

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The problem with a Gaborik trade is we don't know if what we get back will work for us.

Call me crazy, but the Nash trade killed us. Sure, Nash has been our best player, but we gave up too much for him. We have no depth now. We lost two 2nd-3rd line homegrown players. Two guys that came up in the organization and helped instill a culture different from what we used to have.

Whatever we get back for Gaborik will just be more wildcards.

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The problem with a Gaborik trade is we don't know if what we get back will work for us.

Call me crazy, but the Nash trade killed us. Sure, Nash has been our best player, but we gave up too much for him. We have no depth now. We lost two 2nd-3rd line homegrown players. Two guys that came up in the organization and helped instill a culture different from what we used to have.

Whatever we get back for Gaborik will just be more wildcards.
And more changes in the roster that'll further break chemistry.

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The problem with a Gaborik trade is we don't know if what we get back will work for us.
Isn't that the case in any trade?

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Call me crazy, but the Nash trade killed us. Sure, Nash has been our best player, but we gave up too much for him. We have no depth now. We lost two 2nd-3rd line homegrown players. Two guys that came up in the organization and helped instill a culture different from what we used to have.
For the umpththousandth time: if Gaborik and Richards were producing even half the way the can, nobody would be bemoaning the loss of Dubinsky and Anisimov. They could probably get Dubinsky back right now if they wanted to.

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Whatever we get back for Gaborik will just be more wildcards.
Any return always is.

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And more changes in the roster that'll further break chemistry.
What chemistry?

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