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03-29-2013, 01:31 AM
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Colorado's tank commander seems to be more experienced than ours.

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03-29-2013, 01:33 AM
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Colorado's tank commander seems to be more experienced than ours.
Agreed, unfortunately. We have a penchant for these OT/SO losses. Meaningless points!

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03-29-2013, 01:37 AM
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Colorado's tank commander seems to be more experienced than ours.
Right now, the predicted final standings and draft order (barring lottery results) would be:

1) Florida
2) Colorado
3) Philadelphia
4) Buffalo
5) Calgary
6) Columbus

Meaning the Sabres would have a 10.7% shot at winning the lottery

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03-29-2013, 01:40 AM
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Right now, the predicted final standings and draft order (barring lottery results) would be:

1) Florida
2) Colorado
3) Philadelphia
4) Buffalo
5) Calgary
6) Columbus

Meaning the Sabres would have a 10.7% shot at winning the lottery
Come on down, Aleks

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03-29-2013, 01:50 AM
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Colorado's tank commander seems to be more experienced than ours.
As I said a few days ago, the shortened season started out looking like a blessing but is turning out to be a curse.

This team is legitimately bad and over a full schedule, they'd likely be firmly locked into a high lottery pick as the small streaks of good luck (or bad luck, depending on how you look at it) would be of little importance.
Unfortunately though, the shortened season leads to a lot of volatility and a flukey win or two can make a large impact on things.

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03-29-2013, 01:51 AM
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As I said a few days ago, the shortened season started out looking like a blessing but is turning out to be a curse.

This team is legitimately bad and over a full schedule, they'd likely be firmly locked into a high lottery pick as the small streaks of good luck (or bad luck, depending on how you look at it) would be of little importance.
Unfortunately though, the shortened season leads to a lot of volatility and a flukey win or two can make a large impact on things.
I think we're due for some luck. Get us a decent chance in the lottery, and I'm smelling a top three pick

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03-29-2013, 05:39 AM
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Right now, the predicted final standings and draft order (barring lottery results) would be:

1) Florida
2) Colorado
3) Philadelphia
4) Buffalo
5) Calgary
6) Columbus

Meaning the Sabres would have a 10.7% shot at winning the lottery
Hopefully Buffalo and Philly finish tied in points, as Philly has more ROW. They win their game-in-hand right now, and that's where it stands.

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03-29-2013, 08:25 AM
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As I said a few days ago, the shortened season started out looking like a blessing but is turning out to be a curse.

This team is legitimately bad and over a full schedule, they'd likely be firmly locked into a high lottery pick as the small streaks of good luck (or bad luck, depending on how you look at it) would be of little importance.
Unfortunately though, the shortened season leads to a lot of volatility and a flukey win or two can make a large impact on things.
That ****ing OT win in Montreal when Enroth made that unreal save at the end of regulation is going to bite us in the ass. Right now, based on win%, it's the difference between us drafting 5th (Lindholm or Monahan, and maybe Barkov) or drafting 3rd (most likely Drouin given that Colorado's Seth Jones bandwagon is becoming more of a Seth Jones runaway truck).

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03-29-2013, 08:40 AM
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Hopefully Buffalo and Philly finish tied in points, as Philly has more ROW. They win their game-in-hand right now, and that's where it stands.
True, ROW is something to keep in mind here, as we currently have 9, which is second fewest only to Florida.

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03-29-2013, 08:46 AM
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Assuming Philly finishes with a top 5, what do you think they do?

1) Take BPA which will be a 2 way center and move Couturier
2) Throw whatever it takes to move up and get Jones
3) Trade back and pick up assets while securing Ristalainen, or Nurse
4) Trade the pick outright for a young high potential D
5) make the pick and that's that


personally for me I hope we do what we get to get that #4 pick( I seem to be on the Barkov bandwagon the most at this time because I can't imagine us getting a top 3 with Calgary, CoLOLorado and Florida tanking. Hopefully that is where we end up. Heck I would still be extremly happy if we came away with Monahan.


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03-29-2013, 08:50 AM
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Assuming Philly finishes with a top 5, what do you think they do?

1) Take BPA which will be a 2 way center and move Couturier
2) Throw whatever it takes to move up and get Jones
3) Trade back and pick up assets while securing Ristalainen, or Nurse
4) Trade the pick outright for a young high potential D
5) make the pick and thats that
I could definitely see Jones as a Flyer next year.

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03-29-2013, 08:55 AM
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Assuming Philly finishes with a top 5, what do you think they do?

1) Take BPA which will be a 2 way center and move Couturier
2) Throw whatever it takes to move up and get Jones
3) Trade back and pick up assets while securing Ristalainen, or Nurse
4) Trade the pick outright for a young high potential D
5) make the pick and that's that


personally for me I hope we do what we get to get that #4 pick( I seem to be on the Barkov bandwagon the most at this time because I can't imagine us getting a top 3 with Calgary, CoLOLorado and Florida tanking. Hopefully that is where we end up. Heck I would still be extremly happy if we came away with Monahan.
Take BPA, but Couturier goes nowhere. People chuckled when I said before the season that the Flyers had bled too much talent up front, and now they're 11th in the conference in GF. Last year they finished 3rd in the conference, and the year before that they finished 1st.

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03-29-2013, 09:11 AM
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Take BPA, but Couturier goes nowhere. People chuckled when I said before the season that the Flyers had bled too much talent up front, and now they're 11th in the conference in GF. Last year they finished 3rd in the conference, and the year before that they finished 1st.
Couturier is possibly their #1 trade chip, if you can land a defenceman with high upside then he is a guy you consider moving, Bob McKenzie and Darren Dreger were both saying the other day that Couturier is available IIRC.

Not saying I move him, but nothing on that roster should be off the table besides Giroux

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03-29-2013, 09:14 AM
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Couturier is possibly their #1 trade chip, if you can land a defenceman with high upside then he is a guy you consider moving, Bob McKenzie and Darren Dreger were both saying the other day that Couturier is available IIRC.
They'd be stupid to do that. Then again, most of what Paul Holmgren has done in the last couple years has been stupid, so such a move would fit in line with that.

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03-29-2013, 09:23 AM
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The thought of Jones in a Flyers uniform for the next 10 years is horrible.

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Right now, the predicted final standings and draft order (barring lottery results) would be:

1) Florida
2) Colorado
3) Philadelphia
4) Buffalo
5) Calgary
6) Columbus

Meaning the Sabres would have a 10.7% shot at winning the lottery
I'd be ok with picking 4th as consolation for this craptastic season. But I think Philly will pass us and we will end up in the 2 or 3 slot.

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I'd be ok with picking 4th as consolation for this craptastic season. But I think Philly will pass us and we will end up in the 2 or 3 slot.
Philly is amazingly bad and they have a very difficult schedule. I hope you are right, but I wouldn't count on it.

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Right now, the predicted final standings and draft order (barring lottery results) would be:

1) Florida
2) Colorado
3) Philadelphia
4) Buffalo
5) Calgary
6) Columbus

Meaning the Sabres would have a 10.7% shot at winning the lottery
It's looking harder and harder for us to catch the Avs or Panthers in the race for top lottery chances. We could definately get that 3 spot and then hope for the best.


For references, here's the chances for the top spot based on where you finish the season:


The likelihood of each team gaining the right to the first pick is as follows:

Team 1 25.0%

Team 2 18.8%

Team 3 14.2%

Team 4 10.7%

Team 5 8.1%

Team 6 6.2%

Team 7 4.7%

Team 8 3.6%

Team 9 2.7%

Team 10 2.1%

Team 11 1.5%

Team 12 1.1%

Team 13 0.8%

Team 14 0.5%

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=658503

Edit: I use the term "race" lightly. I know nobody is "tanking" on purpose. And like others I do not route for us to lose on purpose. However when we DO lose at this point in the season and I look at the standings, I start with us and look down, not up.

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03-29-2013, 10:10 AM
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It's looking harder and harder for us to catch the Avs or Panthers in the race for top lottery chances. We could definately get that 3 spot and then hope for the best.


For references, here's the chances for the top spot based on where you finish the season:


The likelihood of each team gaining the right to the first pick is as follows:

Team 1 25.0%

Team 2 18.8%

Team 3 14.2%

Team 4 10.7%

Team 5 8.1%

Team 6 6.2%

Team 7 4.7%

Team 8 3.6%

Team 9 2.7%

Team 10 2.1%

Team 11 1.5%

Team 12 1.1%

Team 13 0.8%

Team 14 0.5%

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=658503

Edit: I use the term "race" lightly. I know nobody is "tanking" on purpose. And like others I do not route for us to lose on purpose. However when we DO lose at this point in the season and I look at the standings, I start with us and look down, not up.
Yeah, that's not going to happen. But looking back to 1995, the worst team has won the lottery only 6 out of 15 times (not counting the lockout lottery). And that is when the worst team had a 50/50 shot. Now they have a 25 percent shot - or, put differently, a 75% chance that they won't win. If I were putting money on it, I'd bet on the field, not the worst overall team, taking the lottery.

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In Colorado's defense....They did everything but win last night. Vancouver was completely out played but Cory Schneider...Who I will go on record and say is the best goaltender in the league right now...completely stole that game.

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It is so damn typical that the one year we are horrible, Philly of all teams would be bad enough to finish worse and nab a better player.

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It'll be a real kicker if/when the Flyers finish lower than Buffalo. Normally, that would be cause for celebration, but not if they're in direct competition for draft position.

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Our fire sale in the next 5 days will solidify the tank.


Put Vanek on IR I you can't trade him. Why should he play hurt?

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