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The 2013 NHL Entry Draft: Part II | [Avs Currently In: 29th overall]

View Poll Results: Besides the Big 3 who would you want the Avs to draft?
Barkov 58 44.62%
Erne 1 0.77%
Lindholm 23 17.69%
Monahan 6 4.62%
Nichushkin 16 12.31%
Nurse 9 6.92%
Pulock 2 1.54%
Ristolainen 3 2.31%
Shinkaruk 6 4.62%
Wennberg 2 1.54%
Zadorov 1 0.77%
OTHER 3 2.31%
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03-29-2013, 01:47 PM
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No. I would prefer to have Mac/Drouin + Heatherington/Hartman/Lazar + Elliott over Lindholm + Nurse.
I highly doubt Lazar would still be there at #32, but I get what your saying, if Lazar somehow did drop all the way to the 2nd round, that would be one hell of a pick up with our 2nd.

Read a good report on Heatherington to recently, he would be a solid pick up as well. But it seems like his stock has consistently been rising for a long time now. I could see him going in the late 1st.

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Huberdeau may very well turn into that for them (I still think it's too early to tell)

But you're right, if FLA finishes and wins 1st overall, it's conceivable that they would target MacKinnon.

Really, as has been said numerous times, it appears that there is a clear cut Top 3, and any one of those Top 3 COULD have a case made for them to be #1. Jones, MacKinnon, Drouin all have the toolsets/skills to be selected 1st overall.
unless the idea of what a "superstar" has changed, Huberdeau looks more like a star winger in the making. His hands allow him to control the puck down low / in tight and he knows where to go to score goals but his skating, size and shot are not even close to elite. He will of course be compared to Giroux a lot but he seems to be making his living a different way in the NHL at the moment. More like a higher skilled Brunette.


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Question/scenario for you guys, wondering what you would do here.

We end up with the 2nd overall, FLA with 1st overall. The Panthers draft Jones, and, then a team comes to the Avs with this proposal:

5th Overall + 7th Overall for the 2nd Overall, 32nd overall and Stefan Elliott.

Would you guys pull the trigger on this trade?
I do it because I trust our scouts and I think there's a bigger difference between 7th overall and 32nd + Elliott than there is between 2nd and 5th overall.

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03-29-2013, 02:04 PM
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I highly doubt Lazar would still be there at #32, but I get what your saying, if Lazar somehow did drop all the way to the 2nd round, that would be one hell of a pick up with our 2nd.

Read a good report on Heatherington to recently, he would be a solid pick up as well. But it seems like his stock has consistently been rising for a long time now. I could see him going in the late 1st.
If we do not see a top player drop into the Avs laps in the early 3rd round, hope the Avs take a look at Cammarata...especially if they get Mackinnon. He outscored Mac while with Shattuck.

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Wasn't there some rumor about MacKinnon/Drouin pulling a Lindros if they were drafted by Florida?
That seems like hf rumor to me.

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I see us getting a max of 4-5 wins down the stretch. Should have a good shot at bottom three as long as other teams get some wins.


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I highly doubt Lazar would still be there at #32, but I get what your saying, if Lazar somehow did drop all the way to the 2nd round, that would be one hell of a pick up with our 2nd.

Read a good report on Heatherington to recently, he would be a solid pick up as well. But it seems like his stock has consistently been rising for a long time now. I could see him going in the late 1st.
I have Lazar going in the 22-26, so it is unlikely that he would fall 10 spots, but it has happened before. The point stands though that high 2nd rounder is pretty valuable and can bring in a very good player.

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That seems like hf rumor to me.
Yeah, I remember seeing it somewhere but honestly no idea where... don't think it was substantiated with a link of any sort... ignore

Although the thought of getting Jones, and then turning around and trading say Stastny for Drouin is pretty tantalizing.

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Wasn't there some rumor about MacKinnon/Drouin pulling a Lindros if they were drafted by Florida?
I never heard that rumor, and since they are both playing in the Q league they would have to talk about it over here . Maybe someone else did , but as for me , that's something new to me .

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Yeah, I remember seeing it somewhere but honestly no idea where... don't think it was substantiated with a link of any sort... ignore

Although the thought of getting Jones, and then turning around and trading say Stastny for Drouin is pretty tantalizing.
Nah not really. I would feel so bad for Florida fans that they got totally screwed over by their GM.
I still think that Stastny has a decent amount of trade value left (esp. because he has no NTC) but he won't come close to a top 3 pick.
Hell even ROR would probably be nowhere near enough.
We would have to trade one of Landeskog or Duchene and I don't know about you but I would kind of dislike that.

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Nah not really. I would feel so bad for Florida fans that they got totally screwed over by their GM.
I still think that Stastny has a decent amount of trade value left (esp. because he has no NTC) but he won't come close to a top 3 pick.
Hell even ROR would probably be nowhere near enough.
We would have to trade one of Landeskog or Duchene and I don't know about you but I would kind of dislike that.
Yeah, wasn't so much about the value as the concept.

Moving Landeskog or Duchene, not so much as at that point you're basically just giving up years of development. But a package with Stastny as the centerpiece and another young piece (like Elliott, for example) would probably be enticing for a guy they weren't going to be able to sign.

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Nah not really. I would feel so bad for Florida fans that they got totally screwed over by their GM.
I still think that Stastny has a decent amount of trade value left (esp. because he has no NTC) but he won't come close to a top 3 pick.
Hell even ROR would probably be nowhere near enough.
We would have to trade one of Landeskog or Duchene and I don't know about you but I would kind of dislike that.
I can see Florida, or another top 3 team ASKING for that, but no team would pay that price.

As good as these guys have the potential to be, they're still prospects, they're still unproven at the NHL level. If anything a team w/ a Top 3 pick would have to ADD to get Duchene or Landeskog, and that + would have to be something of some sort of signifigance.

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Read a good report on Heatherington to recently, he would be a solid pick up as well. But it seems like his stock has consistently been rising for a long time now. I could see him going in the late 1st.
I'm willing to make an educated guess and say Pittsburgh will draft him. We all know how much they love their Dmen in the first round.

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I can see Florida, or another top 3 team ASKING for that, but no team would pay that price.

As good as these guys have the potential to be, they're still prospects, they're still unproven at the NHL level. If anything a team w/ a Top 3 pick would have to ADD to get Duchene or Landeskog, and that + would have to be something of some sort of signifigance.
I agree. And I would never trade Landy or Duchene.
But there is just no way in hell that we get our hands on such a pick otherwise.
Florida will never trade their Top 3 pick unless someone loses their mind and offers guys like Duchene or Landeskog ( I honestly am not sure that FLA would do Lando for 2nd pick).
That chance has passed with matching the offersheet (which I approve of as long as they sign him to a longterm contract).

We can not simply patch Stastny and a few talented pieces like Elliott together and honestly believe that they would take that.
Not after all those crap proposals from Toronto fans.
Quantity does not equal quality.
And a Top 3 pick is just worth way more than any piece we can afford to trade.

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I guess I had always assumed that fla would take jones, but it would make a lot of sense for the to take mackinnon. Jones falls to second and drouin to third.

No way I trade any pick in the top three. There is no consolation prize there. I'd bet all three are all stars in three years. I'd take any of them.

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Joe Sakic knew back in 2001 that we would be drafting him first overall in 2013.

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I guess I had always assumed that fla would take jones, but it would make a lot of sense for the to take mackinnon. Jones falls to second and drouin to third.

No way I trade any pick in the top three. There is no consolation prize there. I'd bet all three are all stars in three years. I'd take any of them.
I've always had these three in that order. I hate when a player gets injured for a dozen games and he falls from one to 2-3. He is no less the great player he was prior to the injury.

That said, WJC really had an impact... I'm still confident in Mackinnon though. Even though he is a centerman, I believe he is the best player available; and if he's not picked first (and we have second) I would go for him, no matter who FLA goes for. This IMHO.

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I think Siemens, Jones, and EJ is a good D core

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I like how 'not making several major mistakes each night' is now considered "pretty good". Don't forget, playing over 21 minutes per game on the backend (tops on our team) and bringing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING offensively and being barely adequate defensively is helping us tank pretty well in itself.

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Question/scenario for you guys, wondering what you would do here.

We end up with the 2nd overall, FLA with 1st overall. The Panthers draft Jones, and, then a team comes to the Avs with this proposal:

5th Overall + 7th Overall for the 2nd Overall, 32nd overall and Stefan Elliott.

Would you guys pull the trigger on this trade?
I think it depends who I think I can get at #32 and who is likely available at #5 and #7. I think that Elliott and his potential is too steep to make that kind of deal unless because of what you're giving up at #2 versus what's available at #5 and #7. If you substitute Elliott for a 2014 3rd rounder, it's more palatable, in my opinion anyways.

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personally i am comfortable with any scenario that lands up Jones. pretty much ok with any scenario that lands us Drouin too.

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I would include Barrie we just need a coach that understands that too.

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I see us getting a max of 4-5 wins down the stretch. Should have a good shot at bottom three as long as other teams get some wins.
It's in the Avs hands now. If you only see us getting a max 4-5 wins than were good to go because other teams above us are winning games. Besides the Flames, Panthers and Philly we've created some separation, assuming we lose to the Preds.

Buffalo/Tampa/Washington are all 5 points up now. After today we'll be tied in games played as well. Everybody else out West is up 7 points.

The tank is looking strong.

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I want Jones for sure. Offense shouldn't be a problem heading into the future and this team, before Sacco, was top 5 - 10 in scoring once or twice with a mildly worse roster.

Defense has been **** for years.

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Getting Either Drouin or Jones will do wonders. We either get Jones and solve our defensive woes, or draft Drouin and trade Stastny to fix our defense. Drafting Drouin would give us enough influx of talent to role 2 strong scoring lines, rather than 3 offensive lines where usually only 1 line shows up per night.

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