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03-29-2013, 09:42 PM
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So I guess we've confirmed that the Amerks play the same system as the Sabres.

This organization is so far away. Hockey Heaven!

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Is it a coincidence that this putrid defensive play is occuring with Pysyk up and McNabb out injured? Would not having them have had this much of an impact?

I ask because I recall reading that for the two months prior to Pysyk's call up they were the shutdown pairing.

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So I guess we've confirmed that the Amerks play the same system as the Sabres.

This organization is so far away. Hockey Heaven!
The Amerks actually win games, though, and the lineup has changed so many times during the year it's not surprising they're being outshot badly these days. They're currently the "slow, veteran" team...which is about the fourth version of the team this season. It'll look drastically different in the coming weeks, I imagine.

Long story short...the Amerks are the least of my worries as far as the organization goes

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03-29-2013, 09:48 PM
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Is it a coincidence that this putrid defensive play is occuring with Pysyk up and McNabb out injured? Would not having them have had this much of an impact?

I ask because I recall reading that for the two months prior to Pysyk's call up they were the shutdown pairing.
The D has gone through a lot of changes from losing Brennen and Finley to Pysky and McNabb. So yeah, it certainly plays a role.

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03-29-2013, 09:50 PM
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Is it a coincidence that this putrid defensive play is occuring with Pysyk up and McNabb out injured? Would not having them have had this much of an impact?

I ask because I recall reading that for the two months prior to Pysyk's call up they were the shutdown pairing.
The bigger issue is the forwards who can't keep pressure in the offensive zone for more than 10 seconds. Puts too much pressure on the defense. They have generated next to nothing in 2 straight home games.

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The bigger issue is the forwards who can't keep pressure in the offensive zone for more than 10 seconds. Puts too much pressure on the defense. They have generated next to nothing in 2 straight home games.
Yikes thats not good.

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It doesn't help that Chad Cassidy is a bad coach. Mancari, one of the top scorers on the league, is playing with Girgensons and Schofield. No offense to them, but not exactly offensive dynamos. The coach is holding them back as well.

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Who are the possible options for additions to bolster the Amerks come playoffs?

From the Sabres
Hodgson
Foligno
Porter
Flynn
Pysyk


From juniors when their teams get eliminated
Catenacci
Grigs


Whats the possible depth chart for the Amerks with all possibilities listed?

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03-29-2013, 09:57 PM
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Yikes thats not good.
Well before Rankin and Tropp returned tonight, they were relying on Adam, Mancari, Ellis, McCormick, and Tarnasky to stir the offensive drink. That's just not a very speedy bunch. They lost speed in Porter and Flynn, and then complicated that with injuries to Varone and Sundler.

I'm not sure if they're going to eventually put Cat, Armia, and Grigs in Rochester after their respective seasons, or what their plans are as far as returning Flynn, Foligno, and others after the NHL season ends. If they send all those guys, plus the injuries heal, then they're going to have another problem entirely.

I don't imagine the playoff Amerks will look that much like the current ones.

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03-29-2013, 10:02 PM
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Who are the possible options for additions to bolster the Amerks come playoffs?

From the Sabres
Hodgson
Foligno
Porter
Flynn
Pysyk


From juniors when their teams get eliminated
Catenacci
Grigs


Whats the possible depth chart for the Amerks with all possibilities listed?
And from Europe, if/when his team is eliminated in the playoffs: Armia
Sounds like Rochester could use a lot of help right now with all the guys gone either to Buffalo or IR.

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03-29-2013, 10:08 PM
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Who are the possible options for additions to bolster the Amerks come playoffs?

From the Sabres
Hodgson
Foligno
Porter
Flynn
Pysyk


From juniors when their teams get eliminated
Catenacci
Grigs


Whats the possible depth chart for the Amerks with all possibilities listed?
I couldn't even begin to put that together if they had all those guys. I'm not sure they all make it there, but we shall see. They could probably ice two teams at that point. Some guys have been shifted slightly, but here's just a rough idea of the depth at forward:

Foligno-Hodgson-Flynn
Tarnasky-Porter-Tropp
Girgenson-Adam-Rankin
McCormick-Varone-Mancari
Rismiller-Ellis-Schoefield

There's your veteran lineup with an extra line for good measure. Plus, you could throw in:

Cat-Grigorenko-Armia
Lagace-Jacobs-Legault
Sundler-Roy

Throw in that college kid they just signed, too. And Parker. And Szydlowski. Yeah, definitely at two teams now

Part of me wonders if they'll send Hodgson down, and Porter's not waiver exempt anymore, so I don't know how that works. Plus, some junior guys may not come over. Either way, they will have lots of options.


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A LOT would have to go right to get all their guys back. It won't happen. They'll already be down on their playoff series at that point.

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A LOT would have to go right to get all their guys back. It won't happen. They'll already be down on their playoff series at that point.
That's true. It would certainly depend a lot on timing...at least as far as the NHLers. The junior kids will be done way sooner.

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Are there roster limits in the AHL playoffs?

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Are there roster limits in the AHL playoffs?
I believe the limit is 22, but prospects joining the league after the conclusion of their season do not count against that limit.

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No I don't think so. A big issue for me is the lack of effort. They didn't even look like they cared tonight. I don't know what this coach is doing, but his plan seems to be centered around standing there and watching the opposing team fire the puck at Leggio at will.

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I believe the limit is 22, but prospects joining the league after the conclusion of their season do not count against that limit.
Does that include the college kids they recently signed?

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Are there roster limits in the AHL playoffs?
They did away with clear day rosters, but I still think they have to be at 22 on the roster the day after the season ends + draft choice or amateur tryout players (meaning the junior kids won't impact the 22). Any other changes would have to be emergency related. I think due to many, many, many factors and rules and regulations, the 24 forwards I named in a previous post won't all be in Rochester at any point

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Does that include the college kids they recently signed?
Without seeing the contract details, I'd assume no, as it's likely beginning in 2013-14.
That means he'd be on an ATO for the rest of the season and wouldn't count against the limit.

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No I don't think so. A big issue for me is the lack of effort. They didn't even look like they cared tonight. I don't know what this coach is doing, but his plan seems to be centered around standing there and watching the opposing team fire the puck at Leggio at will.
How soon can we get this guy up in Buffalo? Sounds just like our style.

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Cody McCormick scored the lone goal for the Amerks and David Leggio made 36 saves in the loss, which snapped Rochester’s three-game winning streak. The game also featured the return of two high-scoring forwards in Corey Tropp and Evan Rankin back from injury, with Tropp making a sooner-than-expected return after a 64-game absence with a knee injury he sustained in Rochester’s home-opener.

Tropp made an immediate impact in his return and picked up right where he left off on opening night, earning the primary assist on McCormick’s third goal of the season to help the Amerks take a 1-0 lead 5:11 into the first period. Tropp, after getting a lucky bounce off the right wing boards, skated into the right circle and made a cross-ice pass to McCormick, who caught the pass in stride and darted around Marlies forward Will Acton before floating a back-hander to the top corner over the right shoulder of MacIntyre. Amerks captain Matt Ellis was also awarded an assist on the goal, which sent Rochester into the first intermission with the early advantage.
3.29 – Corey Tropp speaks to the media following Rochester's 4-1 loss to Toronto. <4:31>


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Also, with Wisconsin being eliminated today, maybe the Sabres/Amerks look into adding a speedy and local (Rochester, NY) playmaker in junior center Mark Zengerle.


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Possible. Question is how many offers Zengerle would get.

The Sabres look to be in good shape in terms of the 50 contract limit by my quick calculation entering next year, so they certainly could afford to give him a look.

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Possible. Question is how many offers Zengerle would get.

The Sabres look to be in good shape in terms of the 50 contract limit by my quick calculation entering next year, so they certainly could afford to give him a look.
Well he'd get an ATO for the rest of this year. Then next year they have a bunch of guys heading into RFA and UFA status. Easy solution is to just not qualify or let go guys like Lagace, Biega, Crawford, Schiestel, and Adam (not to mention NHL guys like Pardy, Scott, Hecht, Sulzer, etc).

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