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03-29-2013, 08:32 PM
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What could we get from Vancouver for DD. They need a second centerman badly and I think Eller is ready for a bigger role
loves me some nicklas jensen.


but DD isn't going anywhere very soon.

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03-29-2013, 08:33 PM
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Jagr - Plekanec - Gallagher
Pacioretty - Desharnais - Ryder
Galchenyuk - Eller - Gionta

If the price is reasonable, I could jump on this bandwagon.

Bourque for Jagr+2nd

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03-29-2013, 08:38 PM
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Hmmm...what?
He has proved about as much as Weber at the NHL level. Can be a bottom pairing guy and has potential. Scandella is in the AHL at this point. He cant get a spot over guys like Prosser, Falk and Stoner?

I think its pretty fair. Minny has big guys like Stoner and Falk and can use a guy on the pp while Montreal needs a bigger guy like Scandella. Add a 5th or AT BEST a 3rd to seal the deal.

I would not give more.

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He has proved about as much as Weber at the NHL level. Can be a bottom pairing guy and has potential. Scandella is in the AHL at this point. He cant get a spot over guys like Prosser, Falk and Stoner?

I think its pretty fair. Minny has big guys like Stoner and Falk and can use a guy on the pp while Montreal needs a bigger guy like Scandella. Add a 5th or AT BEST a 3rd to seal the deal.

I would not give more.
I know Minny values Scandella way beyond Weber and a pick. Weber has little to no value and a late round pick is hardly going to motivate them to part with a good prospect.

Just throwing players and picks at people doesn't give them a reason to trade whatever you're looking for.

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03-29-2013, 08:45 PM
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Don't want Campbell at all.
We need help badly with our second unit of the PP. I don't think we would have to give much for him.

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Martin isn't available unless it's an over payment
A big maybe. But I would go for Jared Boll as alternative.

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Talbot might be.
Not maybe, you go for him and say thank you! He is a playoff warrior and would fit well in a Therrien team.

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We need help badly with our second unit of the PP. I don't think we would have to give much for him.



A big maybe. But I would go for Jared Boll as alternative.



Not maybe, you go for him and say thank you! He is a playoff warrior and would fit well in a Therrien team.
Even if he did come cheap, the cap hit that he takes up... Especially for some help ? What do we do with Campbell next season ?

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I'm so sick of trying to adapt to other teams. I'd be more comfortable trading for more speed and just icing the fastest team in the NHL. Play tough between the whistles. After the whistle, skate back to the bench. Win games.

No use trading for some bum who'll just get tuned up by Chara or Lucic. Let's just avoid it altogether and play our game.
Gauthier would approve. Getting bashed in the head is fun.

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We need help badly with our second unit of the PP. I don't think we would have to give much for him.
7Mil per for the next few years, that's the cost of Soupy.

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I know Minny values Scandella way beyond Weber and a pick. Weber has little to no value and a late round pick is hardly going to motivate them to part with a good prospect.

Just throwing players and picks at people doesn't give them a reason to trade whatever you're looking for.
Then I wouldnt go for him. I was responding to another poster who mentionned Scandella and I gave what I would pay for him.

What has he proven at this point in his career? Where would you slot him in with the current D? Maybe another team would trade more for him but i hop Montreal doesnt. Would be the 6th guy right now and 7th when Diaz is back.

Just out of curiosity what do you value him at?

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Even if he did come cheap, the cap hit that he takes up... Especially for some help ? What do we do with Campbell next season ?
We'll deal with him next season. We have the right to do two buyouts, right? Ideally we could pass Kaberle in the Campbell trade for now.

I think we really need that offensive D for the playoffs.

Edit: That said, i'm not completly sold on that idea. Maybe Dan Boyle would be better.


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loves me some nicklas jensen.


but DD isn't going anywhere very soon.
I agree, DD isn't going anywhere, but I wish we would be more open minded about that. We have enough small centers. We could use a big center to replace him.

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03-29-2013, 09:23 PM
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you may be right but its the move ( moving DD ) to make. Next year we would have Gally pleks and Eller as our top 3 centrman. Size and skill. You won t get anymore for DD than at this trade deadline

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We'll deal with him next season. We have the right to do two buyouts, right? Ideally we could pass Kaberle in the Campbell trade for now.

I think we really need that offensive D for the playoffs.

Edit: That said, i'm not completly sold on that idea. Maybe Dan Boyle would be better.
Boyle would cost a lot if San Jose chooses to trade him.

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03-29-2013, 09:30 PM
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AMEN. The only time they ever lose to the Bruins is when they try and play Boston's game. When they use their speed, avoid the physicality and draw penalties they murder them everytime.

So frustrating watching them try to play in the ditches when they can just snipe from the road!
The Cup winning Habs teams took what you said to a new level. They did not worry about intimidation from other teams. THEY were the intimidators. They were also skilled teams.

Other teams were left in the ditches as they carried the Cup down the road.

Twenty long years of dragging ourselves out of the ditch. Not fun.

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Jagr - Plekanec - Gallagher
Pacioretty - Desharnais - Ryder
Galchenyuk - Eller - Gionta

If the price is reasonable, I could jump on this bandwagon.

Bourque for Jagr+2nd
You keep forgetting that Prust is a 3rd liner.

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loves me some nicklas jensen.


but DD isn't going anywhere very soon.
We could have a danish connection PK/Shutdown line.

''THE PASTRY LINE''

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03-29-2013, 09:37 PM
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Boyle would cost a lot if San Jose chooses to trade him.
I would think if they choose to trade Boyle, it would mean they're giving up on this season. I doubt any teams that don't make the playoffs can get the moon when they trade guys cause usualy the concept is this, playoffs teams just want added pieces to make the big jump and are not willing to hurt their team's chemistry for it and trade roster players. And eliminated teams that want to get rid of big pieces on their roster it means they'll be on a rebuild mode. We'll probably see what their plan will be if they trade Clowe. If Clowe is dealt, the sky's the limit.

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Jagr - Plekanec - Gallagher
Pacioretty - Desharnais - Ryder
Galchenyuk - Eller - Gionta

If the price is reasonable, I could jump on this bandwagon.

Bourque for Jagr+2nd :D
Rene Bourque for a 2nd is almost a fair deal. So I don't expect Nieuwendyk to go anything else but 1 for 1 with Jagr. Unless he wishes that the Stars become the canadiens own salvation army.

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Rene Bourque for a 2nd is almost a fair deal. So I don't expect Nieuwendyk to go anything else but 1 for 1 with Jagr. Unless he wishes that the Stars become the canadiens own salvation army.
What? If Cole got a 3rd+Ryder Bourque is worth more than a 2nd alone. Bourque scored 27 goals in two times in a row before being traded to us. And he would have score 15ish this year. He's worth more than that.

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There seems to be a big misconception in thinking that there is no fighting in the playoffs. In last year's playoffs, 42 different players were involved in at least one fight.
But how many of those fights had a real impact in the game? When I see fight in the playoffs, its mostly at the end of the game when team wants to send a message to their opponent or just out of frustration.

You will not see many fights in the conference finals or SCF.

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As much as I'd live guys like hartnell or Simmonds they'd just be too expensive

In 2 moves the habs can get quality guys

Smid from Edmonton
Talbot from Philly

I'd like to find a way to unload either moen or Armstrong in one of these deals for roster room maybe...
Moen+2nd for Smid
Dprospect(not beaulieu or tinordi)+3rd for talbot

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A lot of people are afraid of an overpayment. Sometimes, to get what you really need, to fill a much needed hole in your line-up, you have to overpay a bit as ultimately, it makes your team better.

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What? If Cole got a 3rd+Ryder Bourque is worth more than a 2nd alone. Bourque scored 27 goals in two times in a row before being traded to us. And he would have score 15ish this year. He's worth more than that.
Bad year last year, okay at best year so far, a seemingly bad concussion injury that could be the start of more injuries to come+ bad reputation in Calgary. In Nieuwendyk's shoes I would go for Bourque for Jagr and nothing else. When you think that Iginla was traded for a 1st overall pick and two prospects, Jagr scored 14 goals and 26pts which is 5G and 4PTS more than Jarome, if anything Dallas might not agree to a deal unless we give them back the pick we took from them.

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As much as I'd live guys like hartnell or Simmonds they'd just be too expensive

In 2 moves the habs can get quality guys

Smid from Edmonton
Talbot from Philly

I'd like to find a way to unload either moen or Armstrong in one of these deals for roster room maybe...
Moen+2nd for Smid
Dprospect(not beaulieu or tinordi)+3rd for talbot
Edm would want a D prospect in return for Smid. Ellis or Pateryn plus a pick maybe.

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As much as I'd live guys like hartnell or Simmonds they'd just be too expensive

In 2 moves the habs can get quality guys

Smid from Edmonton
Talbot from Philly

I'd like to find a way to unload either moen or Armstrong in one of these deals for roster room maybe...
Moen+2nd for Smid
Dprospect(not beaulieu or tinordi)+3rd for talbot
I'd leave Smid in Edmonton and go Moen and 3rd for Talbot. We have enough good prospects to sacrifice a 2nd for Smid.

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