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03-30-2013, 12:59 AM
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Prediction: Daniel Paille

This is the year he comes into his own, and comes up big for the Bs in the playoffs.

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This is the year he comes into his own, and comes up big for the Bs in the playoffs.

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he already has done this

he will do it again too

no big revelations here

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03-30-2013, 01:20 AM
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I'm not even a Paille guy.

Just had a vibe.


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I'm not even a Paille guy.

Just had a vibe.

this shorthanded goal was enjoyable



honestly, Paille is an absolute beast in the playoffs, he was a huge part in the Bruins winning the cup, one of the essential pieces to the overall machine of victory

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03-30-2013, 01:31 AM
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more Paille in the playoffs:






(and how about the Tim Thomas reaction to the Paille goal at the very end of the last video )

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I think Paille is a beast all the time. He works so hard and has so much speed that he takes a lot of energy to play against. Doesn't always directly lead to goals for the B's but it takes a toll on the opposition.

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Paille is way underpaid for what he brings to this team, probably the very best player in the league at his salary


here is more playoff Paille, this is fun


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03-30-2013, 01:47 AM
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Paille's my new PJ Axelson, just a great role player who has the ability to change games even tho he only plays on the bottom 2 forward lines.

I would love to see Pies offensive game improve some, and it may be this year. Guy was a first round pick, youd think hed have some better hands...everything else is there though

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Paille is the perfect 4th line winger/PK specialist...

He deserves a lot more, but I think for this team to be successful, we need better offensively gifted players ahead of him in the roster, and have him in the role that he's succeeded in. Expecting more will lead to letdowns (and this is no jab at Paille)

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I've thought highly of Paille since his draft year and I'm glad the Bruins snagged him for next to nothing and that they have signed him twice for cheap money.

Paille was a top-notch 2 way center/wing in the OHL, that's why he was drafted 20th overall. He played some center in Rochester for a time as well. The Sabres preferred Gaustad as 3rd line center and Mair as the 4th. They also still had Briere, Drury and Roy when he was being groomed. So he went to LW permanently and has been there since. I think he could have definitely played center on an NHL 4th or even 3rd line on some teams but he is likely better off forechecking from the wing. The Bruins have been using him well this year.

Most of the players drafted in the second half of that first round in 2002 are in Europe or on the 4th line of a crap team (Boyd Gordon, Ben Eager). I'd say that only Cam Ward and Alex Steen are more valuable from that area of that draft (#15-35).
Comparatively, Paille has more than lived up to his draft position for that draft year.

Further down was Hannu Toivonen at #29, Johnny Boychuk at #61, Greg Campbell at #67 and Dennis Wideman at #241.

The best player outside of the first round (and likely overall) was Duncan Keith at #54.
The Bruins had traded with the Blues to get up to #56 and went for Vladislav Evseev. I wonder if they were after Keith.


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Paille's my new PJ Axelson, just a great role player who has the ability to change games even tho he only plays on the bottom 2 forward lines.

I would love to see Pies offensive game improve some, and it may be this year. Guy was a first round pick, youd think hed have some better hands...everything else is there though
He's not as clever, as fast, or as versatile as PJ was, but he's just as underappreciated. It takes awhile to warm up to guys like him.

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03-30-2013, 03:29 AM
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He's not as clever, as fast, or as versatile as PJ was, but he's just as underappreciated. It takes awhile to warm up to guys like him.
I loved Axelsson. But I think Paille is faster, just as versatile and much tougher.
I agree that Axelsson was more clever though. Axelsson had some real smarts.
Axelsson refused (and wasn't well suited) to play 4th line. That's one thing that made him less versatile in my eyes.

Someone said it well above here in the thread. Paille is tough to play against. He was a huge part of that tough, grinding, wear-you-down style that won the Bruins the Stanley Cup.

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Paille's my new PJ Axelson, just a great role player who has the ability to change games even tho he only plays on the bottom 2 forward lines.

I would love to see Pies offensive game improve some, and it may be this year. Guy was a first round pick, youd think hed have some better hands...everything else is there though
PJ was a much better player, that aside. In order to be the new PJ Axelsson threads like this would have to be replaced with ones endlessly bashing him for not being an offensively skilled player and demanding claude is a moron and be fired for his use of him.

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Danny Paille is underpaid for what he brings to the team.

I love that he gives 100% every shift.

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He's not as clever, as fast, or as versatile as PJ was, but he's just as underappreciated. It takes awhile to warm up to guys like him.
This post isn't off on much, but it's way off on the not as fast as PJ was aspect. He's clearly faster than PJ was, Paille can flat out fly.

Anyways, love Paille but he really belongs as an elite 4th liner, at least on this team. On a team with a more consistent/high end scoring top 6, he could certainly be a 3rd liner. But for us, we need a little extra offense on that 3rd line.

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This is the year he comes into his own, and comes up big for the Bs in the playoffs.

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As others have stated, he`s more than come up big for this team previously. Problem is, as we all know, for a team to win the Cup, EVERYONE has to come up big at just the right time.

It`s what makes repeats so difficult, and it`s why we rarely see any team these days make, if not a repeat appearance in a Cup final, barely going deep consistently in the playoffs

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This is the year he comes into his own, and comes up big for the Bs in the playoffs.

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Did you miss the 2011 Stanley Cup run? The unsung heroes were # 20 and # 11. Grinding it out and killing penalties.

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Did you miss the 2011 Stanley Cup run? The unsung heroes were # 20 and # 11. Grinding it out and killing penalties.
Yeah but what were there stats

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Yeah but what were there stats
In the SCF, the Boston PK outscored the Vancouver PP.

Now THAT is a stat.

Oh, and remember that Chiarelli was the guy who targeted and traded for Paille. Credit where it's due.


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In the SCF, the Boston PK outscored the Vancouver PP.

Now THAT is a stat.

Oh, and remember that Chiarelli was the guy who targeted and traded for Paille. Credit where it's due.
You bet, funny, folks hammer Caron and his lack of stats, too often tossing in or having the "he`s a first round pick" mentality......wonder how many don`t realize/never knew, or have plain forgotten, Paille was a first rounder too, the Sabres gave up on him and the B`s have been given the gift

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You bet, funny, folks hammer Caron and his lack of stats, too often tossing in or having the "he`s a first round pick" mentality......wonder how many don`t realize/never knew, or have plain forgotten, Paille was a first rounder too, the Sabres gave up on him and the B`s have been given the gift
I haven't been very critical of Caron but I will say that Paille likely wouldn't be anywhere near the NHL anymore if it weren't for his first line speed. What will Caron fall back on if he can't score much at this level?

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I haven't been very critical of Caron but I will say that Paille likely wouldn't be anywhere near the NHL anymore if it weren't for his first line speed. What will Caron fall back on if he can't score much at this level?
3rd line grinding winger who`s responsible defensively, won`t contribute much offensively, but won`t hurt you defensively, can trust him in late game situations if need be. Is it what most want from a 1st rounder??? Um, nope, but tis what the B`s have, and I would not at all be shocked if there are teams out there who would be interested in him, won`t get a 1st round pick for him but...

On this team, the way this has been set up, we EXPECT our 3rd to play major roles, the overwhelming majority of 3rd lines have guys that are arguably the same as Caron, with many having guys far less capable on it

Still would have been nice to see a healthy Kelly/Pevs/Caron for more than a couple of games where many on these boards felt they were just starting to look as though that mediocre play was behind them, I`ll wager Caron is gone by deadline day

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3rd line grinding winger who`s responsible defensively, won`t contribute much offensively, but won`t hurt you defensively, can trust him in late game situations if need be.

On this team, the way this has been set up, we EXPECT our 3rd to play major roles, the overwhelming majority of 3rd lines have guys that are arguably the same as Caron, with many having guys far less capable on it
For the sake of conversation, who are the far less capable guys? Caron hasn't show much.

Again, to me, the difference is speed. Caron is slow to the point where he will need to score a good amount or he will have to be replaced by someone who scores somewhat comparably but has speed. Not sure how he can match up against other team's best players on the Pk and elsewhere with below average speed.

Kelly and Pevs are fast. Paille is fast. Daugavins is faster. Can Caron use his big frame to be an above average hard checking 4th liner? Every week he doesn't score he's going to have to start thinking about it.

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For the sake of conversation, who are the far less capable guys? Caron hasn't show much.

Again, to me, the difference is speed. Caron is slow to the point where he will need to score a good amount or he will have to be replaced by someone who scores somewhat comparably but has speed. Not sure how he can match up against other team's best players on the Pk and elsewhere with below average speed.

Kelly and Pevs are fast. Paille is fast. Daugavins is faster. Can Caron use his big frame to be an above average hard checking 4th liner? Every week he doesn't score he's going to have to start thinking about it.
For a slow guy, he wins alot of board battles, he`s, IMO, alot like Lucic, not fast, but quicker than he appears, I rarely see Caron lagging behind due to speed. His finish is nowhere NHL 1/2nd line finish which far too many here talked about him as having when drafted (which was so far off base), have a look at other teams rosters, there are maybe 3-4 teams max who rely on their 3rd line to contribute anything more than a bit of a shut down scenario, and add some energy, we`ve been spoiled here with this team, last season we have Pevs/Poo and Kelly producing offense that most others would die to have. That isn`t the norm, it`s the rarity

I had the luxury of watching him alot in Junior, when drafted I stated then, at best, at the very best, a 2nd liner, at worst, a good 3rd line guy who`ll contribute from time to time but also a guy, in THIS system, who Julien can rely on defensively. I`ll be honest, when he`s played for the Bruins, he`s brought almost exactly what I had anticipated, with a bit more wish for offense from him but..

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I think if Claude takes one more step and puts Paille - Spooner - Pevs out as the 3rd line a couple weeks back, we'd be talking about how that line was finally making a difference.

Caron (and *gulp* Pandalfo) SHOULD be playing 4th line minutes compared to Dan right now. Aside from Segs, nobody else dictates play and puts the defense on their heels like Paille lately. He needs to be on the ice more with some skill to take advantage of the many breakdowns he has been causing defenses the past few weeks.

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