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03-30-2013, 08:57 AM
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Weber signed a 14-year offer sheet here, so obviously he was willing to play in front of Bryz for 8 of them

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lol at weber "not wanting to play here"




lolwut? he signed a freaking 14 year deal to come to Philadelphia

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it's just a better story to say that Bryz is the reason Weber "didn't want to play here"

[sure, we are imagining that ppl here blame Bryz for everything ]

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Lots of goalies on bad defensive teams manage to not get completely wrecked like Bryzgalov has, that's the problem.
I do agree with this, and it is A problem but I disagree it is -the- problem. They acquired Bryz with the hope of solving their goal tending woes and to get a consistently good goalie who they could win a cup behind. He hasn't lived up to expectations. True. But they did not acquire bryz with the expectation that they could ice a poor team and he would still play great anyway. Some goalies can do that, but it wasnt the plan. They prob hoped he would be good enough to do that if necessary, but I don't think anyone can blame a goalie for a team losing if the goalie isn't playing great on a bad team. It's tougher for a goalie on a bad team in an eastern conference only season too.

Referencing those stats above at least shows if philly had as good of a team as those yrs and played that well then it is most probable that bryz would do better than boucher or leighton did because he's a superior goalie. But this yr his numbers are far worse than theirs.

I think they are in a sticky situation really. Will be tough for them to acquire a definite goalie that is a lot beeter than bryz and would be good on any team, even the arguable worst defensive team there is (what woth the injuries anyway). But it wouldn't be easy. So buying bryz out or not is a tough situation if they can't secure something better or at least equal for way cheaper. I just think their -primary- prob is no way bryz this year and they absolutely have to focus on other things as their priority to improve the team. Yes it is possible to get a good enough goalie to carry a ****** team on his shoulders to a cup but should never be a goal or banked on. And right now, the only way this team is succeasful is if Bryz is the reason if they keep the rest of the team as is.

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03-30-2013, 12:56 PM
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Just in case it isn't totally clear, I'm not saying Bryz is worth his contract. Just saying he is not the main reason this team sucks right now. And also for a team that wants to try to win every year, it'll be hard to find a much better solution via good trade or free agencg (much less not overpaying free agency) and drafting/developing, well that doesnt happen over night and as I said this team isnt the type who seems willing to shed bryz, spend yrs as a subpar team trying to draft and develop rebuild for a more defensively skilled team and until a really good goalie emerges. Even tho they could definitely have a few yr rebuild, their best older players like Kimmo won't have a chance at a cup this yr or next or anything. And all their main core are early-mid 20s. I think they should be patient for the first time, shed bryz and briere if they have to, and be humble and rebuild

If Philly is not willing to do that and still wanna win now. Well. If they manage to focus on their weaknesses besides goaltending first and establish that then bryz should be good enough in front of a good team. But i understand at THAT point if they have a good team, THEN he may become the problem. He might not be consistent enough. And if they buy him out it has to be soon. Will be hard to replace him but then his contract is also very harsh. Tough issue and so i also agree bryz may be the problem if the team was good this yr.


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I do agree with this, and it is A problem but I disagree it is -the- problem. They acquired Bryz with the hope of solving their goal tending woes and to get a consistently good goalie who they could win a cup behind. He hasn't lived up to expectations. True. But they did not acquire bryz with the expectation that they could ice a poor team and he would still play great anyway. Some goalies can do that, but it wasnt the plan. They prob hoped he would be good enough to do that if necessary, but I don't think anyone can blame a goalie for a team losing if the goalie isn't playing great on a bad team. It's tougher for a goalie on a bad team in an eastern conference only season too.

Referencing those stats above at least shows if philly had as good of a team as those yrs and played that well then it is most probable that bryz would do better than boucher or leighton did because he's a superior goalie. But this yr his numbers are far worse than theirs.

I think they are in a sticky situation really. Will be tough for them to acquire a definite goalie that is a lot beeter than bryz and would be good on any team, even the arguable worst defensive team there is (what woth the injuries anyway). But it wouldn't be easy. So buying bryz out or not is a tough situation if they can't secure something better or at least equal for way cheaper. I just think their -primary- prob is no way bryz this year and they absolutely have to focus on other things as their priority to improve the team. Yes it is possible to get a good enough goalie to carry a ****** team on his shoulders to a cup but should never be a goal or banked on. And right now, the only way this team is succeasful is if Bryz is the reason if they keep the rest of the team as is.
I never said he is "the" problem.

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ROFL.

IF the Preds are ready to trade Weber to us in the off-season he'll be here in a hurry.

Don't kid yourselves, leaguewide we're known as a great, hungry for success, first-class organization.

It's just up to Nashville.

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