HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Central Division > Chicago Blackhawks
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Other Chicago & General Sports Thread XVII - Baseball has returned!

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
03-30-2013, 12:13 PM
  #401
BBH
34|38|61|10|13
 
BBH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Chicago, IL, US of A
Country: United States
Posts: 4,206
vCash: 500
Send a message via Skype™ to BBH
My only thing could be either relocation (please, God, no), a new stadium (but the Cell isn't that old, especially for a baseball park) or maybe a new team identity (logo, colors, etc.)

BBH is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 12:16 PM
  #402
IU Hawks fan
They call me 'IU'
 
IU Hawks fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: No longer IU
Country: United States
Posts: 18,770
vCash: 772
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBH View Post
My only thing could be either relocation (please, God, no), a new stadium (but the Cell isn't that old, especially for a baseball park) or maybe a new team identity (logo, colors, etc.)
It's none of these, zero chance. You can't change logos/unis/etc midseason. They aren't moving, the lease at USCF is for another 30+ years.

And they wouldn't announce relocation on the 2nd day of the season. Use a little common sense.

Maybe a stadium name change. US Cellular is getting out of the market, selling their local assets to Sprint. They had said they would keep the name but maybe they changed their mind.

IU Hawks fan is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 01:42 PM
  #403
committedindian86
Flip The Switch
 
committedindian86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
Country: United States
Posts: 3,985
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan View Post
Am I not allowed to criticize a guy who has flaws?


Funny to see a Hawks fan complaining about coaching (like we all here do) when you guys had to deal with so many years of complete garbage under the likes of Yawney, Sutter, Alpo, etc.

I guess Hawks fans should never criticize Q again!
You're obviously allowed to criticize whoever you want, Crean has quickly turned this program around from pathetic to a top tier program again. I think he's a better fit than anyone available unless Brad Stevens or Shaka Smart decide to leave.

committedindian86 is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 01:46 PM
  #404
IU Hawks fan
They call me 'IU'
 
IU Hawks fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: No longer IU
Country: United States
Posts: 18,770
vCash: 772
I agree. I already said I give him a lot of credit for turning program around. He deserves all the credit in the world. Doesn't mean I think he is a perfect coach.

IU Hawks fan is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 02:30 PM
  #405
MurrayBannerman
BBall ATD Champion
 
MurrayBannerman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: 219
Country: United States
Posts: 21,639
vCash: 1625
IU is probably one of the few places Brad Stevens would go to.

MurrayBannerman is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 03:58 PM
  #406
Illinihockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 14,559
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by committedindian86 View Post
You're obviously allowed to criticize whoever you want, Crean has quickly turned this program around from pathetic to a top tier program again. I think he's a better fit than anyone available unless Brad Stevens or Shaka Smart decide to leave.
Pathetic? They were a 8 seed the year before Crean took over, would have been a top 4 sees but Gordon hurt his wrist.

Illinihockey is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 04:14 PM
  #407
committedindian86
Flip The Switch
 
committedindian86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
Country: United States
Posts: 3,985
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Illinihockey View Post
Pathetic? They were a 8 seed the year before Crean took over, would have been a top 4 sees but Gordon hurt his wrist.
The roster that he started with had 2 scholarship players. TOTAL. That's a rough start

committedindian86 is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 04:18 PM
  #408
Illinihockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 14,559
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by committedindian86 View Post
The roster that he started with had 2 scholarship players. TOTAL. That's a rough start
And that was on Crean. He was the one that was booting guys out of the program and the reason kids were transferring. They didn't graduate 10 players and have no one in the 08 recruiting class

Illinihockey is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 04:21 PM
  #409
committedindian86
Flip The Switch
 
committedindian86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
Country: United States
Posts: 3,985
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Illinihockey View Post
And that was on Crean. He was the one that was booting guys out of the program and the reason kids were transferring. They didn't graduate 10 players and have no one in the 08 recruiting class
Or on Sampson who ran a dirty program. Being on thin ice with the NCAA would do that to a program.

committedindian86 is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 04:24 PM
  #410
Illinihockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 14,559
vCash: 500
I hope you don't think Crean doesn't have the full weight of the Indiana boosters behind him when it comes to recruiting

Illinihockey is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 05:58 PM
  #411
IU Hawks fan
They call me 'IU'
 
IU Hawks fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: No longer IU
Country: United States
Posts: 18,770
vCash: 772
Quote:
Originally Posted by Illinihockey View Post
Pathetic? They were a 8 seed the year before Crean took over, would have been a top 4 sees but Gordon hurt his wrist.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Illinihockey View Post
And that was on Crean. He was the one that was booting guys out of the program and the reason kids were transferring. They didn't graduate 10 players and have no one in the 08 recruiting class
No, that was not on Crean. That was all on Sampson. Ridiculous to say otherwise.

Crean started with absolutely nothing. He didn't get the job until it was too late to recruit an 08-09 class. What player that was around for the Sampson controversy was going to stay? You can't put any of that on Crean, that's just asinine.

Plus, Gordon came out later and said most of the team had drug problems. Can you really blame Crean for not wanting that around?


Last edited by IU Hawks fan: 03-30-2013 at 06:03 PM.
IU Hawks fan is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 06:20 PM
  #412
Illinihockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 14,559
vCash: 500
Armon Bassett and Jordan Crawford taking about the coaching change and how they'd talk to Crean and then make up their minds

http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/2008/04/...rdan-crawford/

Crean had the chance to keep them and guys like Ellis and didn't. He pushed other guys out (cant remember who it was but the story was he had to be escorted out of the building after a meetin with Crean. He could have held that team together and didn't.

Illinihockey is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 06:23 PM
  #413
IU Hawks fan
They call me 'IU'
 
IU Hawks fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: No longer IU
Country: United States
Posts: 18,770
vCash: 772
Still don't get how you could blame him for wanting to start fresh. Not like the team wouldn't have still be pretty crappy with those 3 guys.

IU Hawks fan is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 06:51 PM
  #414
Illinihockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 14,559
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan View Post
Still don't get how you could blame him for wanting to start fresh. Not like the team wouldn't have still be pretty crappy with those 3 guys.
Crawford and Bassett were awesome. Crawford put up 21 pts for Xavier and is the NBA. Bassett went to Ohio and put up 17 and lead them over Georgetown in the NCAA tourney

Illinihockey is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 07:31 PM
  #415
IU Hawks fan
They call me 'IU'
 
IU Hawks fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: No longer IU
Country: United States
Posts: 18,770
vCash: 772
Either way you're nitpicking 1 year. Who cares?

IU Hawks fan is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 07:34 PM
  #416
Illinihockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 14,559
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan View Post
Either way you're nitpicking 1 year. Who cares?
My point is Crean didn't take over some program hitting rock bottom and built it back up. He took over a top program coming off of a decent year. Groce is took over a significantly worst situation for example

Illinihockey is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 07:47 PM
  #417
IU Hawks fan
They call me 'IU'
 
IU Hawks fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: No longer IU
Country: United States
Posts: 18,770
vCash: 772
That's complete nonsense. IU was absolute rock bottom.

IU Hawks fan is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 08:05 PM
  #418
Illinihockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 14,559
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan View Post
That's complete nonsense. IU was absolute rock bottom.
Again, I've showed it clearly wasn't. They were coming off a 25-8 season and the sanctions they received were a slap on the wrist as evidenced by this article

http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/11...sed-penalties/

Take a deep breath. And then take a sigh of relief.
After a lengthy investigation, the NCAA Infractions Committee has decided that Indiana’s self-imposed sanctions are sufficient and that no further penalties to the men’s basketball program are warranted.

Illinihockey is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 08:07 PM
  #419
IU Hawks fan
They call me 'IU'
 
IU Hawks fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: No longer IU
Country: United States
Posts: 18,770
vCash: 772
I don't care what you've shown, the fact is that NONE of those players actually PLAYED for him. Groce had way better talent PLAY for him starting out than Crean did.

Crean decided to clean house. Don't understand why you want to hold that against him.

IU Hawks fan is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 08:42 PM
  #420
IU Hawks fan
They call me 'IU'
 
IU Hawks fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: No longer IU
Country: United States
Posts: 18,770
vCash: 772
Go home, Ohio State!



$300 with a win tomorrow!!

IU Hawks fan is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 08:45 PM
  #421
MurrayBannerman
BBall ATD Champion
 
MurrayBannerman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: 219
Country: United States
Posts: 21,639
vCash: 1625
Quote:
Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan View Post
Go home, Ohio State!



$300 with a win tomorrow!!
I support this post.

MurrayBannerman is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 08:50 PM
  #422
IU Hawks fan
They call me 'IU'
 
IU Hawks fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: No longer IU
Country: United States
Posts: 18,770
vCash: 772

IU Hawks fan is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 09:10 PM
  #423
Illinihockey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 14,559
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan View Post
I don't care what you've shown, the fact is that NONE of those players actually PLAYED for him. Groce had way better talent PLAY for him starting out than Crean did.

Crean decided to clean house. Don't understand why you want to hold that against him.
Because the program wasn't at rock bottom when he took over, he drove it there. I'd submit Sampson took over a program in worse shape than Crean did

Illinihockey is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 09:15 PM
  #424
IU Hawks fan
They call me 'IU'
 
IU Hawks fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: No longer IU
Country: United States
Posts: 18,770
vCash: 772
Quote:
Originally Posted by Illinihockey View Post
Because the program wasn't at rock bottom when he took over, he drove it there. I'd submit Sampson took over a program in worse shape than Crean did
He recruited a bunch of drugies he didn't want on his team? No, he didn't drive it there, that's a ridiculous claim.

IU Hawks fan is offline  
Old
03-30-2013, 09:23 PM
  #425
theaub
Lets go Hawks!
 
theaub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Markham, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,616
vCash: 995

theaub is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:14 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.