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03-28-2013, 09:01 PM
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I see Damontre Moore mocked at the end of the 1st a lot so that's a possibility. Wolfe moving out full time is the best option.

What's Jarvis Moss been up too?
Don Banks of SI had Broncos picking Tank Carradine in his latest mock.

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03-28-2013, 09:14 PM
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I wouldn't close the door on either Abe or Freeney until they sign somewhere anyway.

Some quality D Line depth would be a nice change of pace.

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As I mentioned earlier, I think they are just posturing right now. Plan A is still to sign Freeney/Abraham. I'd guess they are feigning losing interest to hopefully get Freeney to drop his asking price. Another year of great DT draft depth, hope they can grab one or another great player that falls to them and not have to grab a DE unless the right one is available.

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Anyone think Wolfe could be effective at DE?

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03-28-2013, 09:40 PM
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Anyone think Wolfe could be effective at DE?
Isn't that what he plays?

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Don Banks of SI had Broncos picking Tank Carradine in his latest mock.
Carradine would be awesome but I think he'll be gone.

I think the Broncos are just waiting out Abraham and Freeney. Starting position on a super bowl contender - it's a buyers market for the Broncos right now in this situation.

For this year, I think it's better to get a DT and sign a DE free agent. Long term, it's probably better to get Carradine and a lower round DT. Depends on what ya want. But I see the Peyton Manning window closing in 2 years. Win now.

IMO Wolfe projects long term to DE btw.

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Isn't that what he plays?
I thought they kept him at DT all year.

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Nah he played in the rotation at DE on 1st and 2nd. Moved to DT for 3rd downs.

How do you guys feel for Colt McCoy being the #2/#3 QB? Rumors are he is done in Cleveland.

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Anyone think Wolfe could be effective at DE?
Even more so.

Anyway getting a DE in free agency saves a draft pick for a DT, MLB, or Safety which aren't really available in Free Agency.


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Nah he played in the rotation at DE on 1st and 2nd. Moved to DT for 3rd downs.

How do you guys feel for Colt McCoy being the #2/#3 QB? Rumors are he is done in Cleveland.
Nah...if we need a Cleveland QB reject we could've just kept Brady Quinn.

Surely Osweiler could fill in as #2 better than Colt freakin' McCoy.

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...defensive-ends

They rank Ayers two places lower than Dumerivl (even though its bleacher report) and both before Wolfe

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...defensive-ends

They rank Ayers two places lower than Dumerivl (even though its bleacher report) and both before Wolfe
16 players drafted in 2009 have more career sacks than he does. 12 drafted after him and only 1 was drafted above the 12th pick in the draft we also wasted. Del Rio hates him, Our run D improved when he was out of the starting line up, what am I missing here? How is he better than Jarvis Moss? Is this just a souvenir from Joshtown, Guyana?

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16 players drafted in 2009 have more career sacks than he does. 12 drafted after him and only 1 was drafted above the 12th pick in the draft we also wasted. Del Rio hates him, Our run D improved when he was out of the starting line up, what am I missing here? How is he better than Jarvis Moss? Is this just a souvenir from Joshtown, Guyana?
He's ten times better than Elvis against the run. I don't necessarily like the pick, but I still want him to do well. Hopefully he'll get there in terms of pass rushing.

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He's ten times better than Elvis against the run. I don't necessarily like the pick, but I still want him to do well. Hopefully he'll get there in terms of pass rushing.
Then how come our run d improved when he was made a back up last year?

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Then how come our run d improved when he was made a back up last year?
Wasn't it Wolf who was the starter? I feel like Ayers was backing up Elvis the whole year.

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Wasn't it Wolf who was the starter? I feel like Ayers was backing up Elvis the whole year.
Ayers played about 30% of the snaps last year. 2011 when he was a starter our run D was worse.

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He's ten times better than Elvis against the run.
Ayres? I don't think either he or Dumervil were very good against the run.

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I honestly don't think outside of Dumervil, any of our DE's were worth even talking about. They were all pretty bad. And run-wise, Dumervil was right there with them.



This is from advanced stats. The WPA is pretty much the equivalent to WAR in baseball - how valuable the player was.

The TF is tackle factor - the ratio of how many tackles a guy makes from his position that is "expected" (and it's adjusted for 4-3 or 3-4 i.e. in a 3-4 the LB's should be making all the tackles).

Ayers was pretty clearly the 3rd best DE on this team looking at advanced stats.

I'm not sold on the idea of Del Rio hating him though. I'm hoping Del Rio sees him as a project, because the guy does have a good frame for being a solid DE. He just needs a lot of work to improve.

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03-29-2013, 10:04 PM
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Not sure where else to post this since we don't appear to have an NCAA hockey thread anymore.

Since when could refs review penalties in these games? That's new to me.

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I honestly don't think outside of Dumervil, any of our DE's were worth even talking about. They were all pretty bad. And run-wise, Dumervil was right there with them.



This is from advanced stats. The WPA is pretty much the equivalent to WAR in baseball - how valuable the player was.

The TF is tackle factor - the ratio of how many tackles a guy makes from his position that is "expected" (and it's adjusted for 4-3 or 3-4 i.e. in a 3-4 the LB's should be making all the tackles).

Ayers was pretty clearly the 3rd best DE on this team looking at advanced stats.

I'm not sold on the idea of Del Rio hating him though. I'm hoping Del Rio sees him as a project, because the guy does have a good frame for being a solid DE. He just needs a lot of work to improve.
"Ayers is good against the run!" Was also used in his defense during the McDaniels era and the team was in the bottom of the league against the run.

Even though just about everyone has renounced L Ron Josh some of them still get their engrams in a twist over his players.

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"Ayers is good against the run!" Was also used in his defense during the McDaniels era and the team was in the bottom of the league against the run.

Ayers was good as a run stopping DE in college. Hasn't really translated his game to the pros. Didn't make much impact at UT and hasn't with the Broncos either. Was pretty much a flash in the pan scouting combine guy.


On other notes, can't believe the Raiders are actually considering coughing up picks for Matt Flynn. As much as that team needs draft picks, why would you make that move? I don't think Flynn will be terrible but the Raiders really don't have that luxury right now.

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Not sure where else to post this since we don't appear to have an NCAA hockey thread anymore.

Since when could refs review penalties in these games? That's new to me.
Yeah, with Jori being less frequent round these parts the NCAA thread disappeared. Tough loss for DU, tough day overall for the WCHA. Sucked having to play at a virtual home game for UNH.

And how about Metro State going to the D2 National Championship game. After watching FGCU in the big tourney it makes me wonder if Metro could move up to D1. The basketball team is always good.

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"Ayers is good against the run!" Was also used in his defense during the McDaniels era and the team was in the bottom of the league against the run.

Even though just about everyone has renounced L Ron Josh some of them still get their engrams in a twist over his players.
Forgetting stats for a moment, my feeling from just watching him play the run is...... meh. He makes an outstanding play now and again, but then is completely invisible for a number of running plays in a row. I don't mind that with interior linemen who eat up blockers for LBs, but I prefer edge guys to be visible in the running game.

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Poor kid for Louisville. That break was disgusting.

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