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03-30-2013, 10:43 PM
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I don't want Clowe, but if it happened: Clowe with Galchenyuk and Eller. Or he plays with Max and DD and Gally goes down to the Eller line.

Prust bumps out Armstrong and plays with Halpern and Moen.

If Bourque came back, then I guess Galchenyuk would sit in the playoffs if we're healthy like Seguin did in 2011 for BOS. Or we go all-out offence with something like this:

Ryder - Pleks - Gio
Pac - DD - Clowe
Prust - Eller - Gally
Bourque - Chucky - Halpern or Moen.
Jesus ****ing Christ. That's awesome. I think a top-6 physical right winger, Clowe or else, acquired without touching the roster, could be great.

Also, I'd have Halpern take the draws on the fourth, that's why he`s here. Put Galchy on the right.

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03-30-2013, 10:47 PM
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I think people are underestimating the value of simply having a tough guy to play against in our line up...as well as the added perk of being able to drop them, you can never have enough depth....so what if he's a little slower?...im watching him right now and he doesn't look out of place at all....we have all kinds of speed in our lineup..why not add this element that we have little of.

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03-30-2013, 10:52 PM
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Is there a way to have Clowe play where Gionta is? He is a damn turnover machine this year and i'm tired of seeing it.

Clowe-Plekanec-Ryder
Patcioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gionta
Prust-Halpern-Moen

??

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03-30-2013, 10:56 PM
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Is there a way to have Clowe play where Gionta is? He is a damn turnover machine this year and i'm tired of seeing it.

Clowe-Plekanec-Ryder
Patcioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gionta
Prust-Halpern-Moen

??
Clowe should not even be close to the 1st ..he has 0 goals!

Ryder-Plekanec-Jagr
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
Prust-Eller-Gionta
Clowe-Halpern-Galchenyuk

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03-30-2013, 10:59 PM
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Is there a way to have Clowe play where Gionta is? He is a damn turnover machine this year and i'm tired of seeing it.

Clowe-Plekanec-Ryder
Patcioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gionta
Prust-Halpern-Moen

??
Clowe and Ryder on the same line would make it way too slow.

Besides, no matter how much you may hate Gionta, that line has still been our best; just as it was when Bourque was there instead of Ryder.

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03-30-2013, 11:00 PM
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Clowe should not even be close to the 1st ..he has 0 goals!

Ryder-Plekanec-Jagr
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
Prust-Eller-Gionta
Clowe-Halpern-Galchenyuk
Why on Earth would we trade for a 4th line player who in actuality is a 50 point player who is a playoff warrior to play him 8 minutes a game. He's not going to waive to come to MTL to play anything but top 6 minutes and with Bourque gone for a while it fits.

Also, this team doens't have a top line it has 3 scoring lines.

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Clowe should not even be close to the 1st ..he has 0 goals!

Ryder-Plekanec-Jagr
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
Prust-Eller-Gionta
Clowe-Halpern-Galchenyuk
Way to sneak in Jagr.

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03-30-2013, 11:01 PM
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Clowe and Ryder on the same line would make it way too slow.

Besides, no matter how much you may hate Gionta, that line has still been our best; just as it was when Bourque was there instead of Ryder.
Then he goes with Eller and Chuckie cause you're not going to break up the Gallagher line since DD is a coaches pet and Pacioretty is a mainstay.

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03-30-2013, 11:02 PM
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Why on Earth would we trade for a 4th line player who in actuality is a 50 point player who is a playoff warrior to play him 8 minutes a game. He's not going to waive to come to MTL to play anything but top 6 minutes and with Bourque gone for a while it fits.

Also, this team doens't have a top line it has 3 scoring lines.
Clowe WAS a 50 pts player. He no longer is. Any team that wants Clowe is already a good team and wants to win a cup so no way is any team going to acquire Clowe to fit him on the top 6 ...that doesn't make any sense!

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03-30-2013, 11:02 PM
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We have Markov that fits that to a T, but is there some old guy on a bottom feeder that would fill a need on the wing of the fourth AND provide this motivation to our guys?
A quick scan of the rosters from teams basically out of it...

Steve Begin
Robyn Regehr

That's basically it for really old guys without a ring.

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Gomez 2G 8A
Clowe 0G 11A

Why not trade for Gomez? He's cheaper, faster and clearly a better goalscorer

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Clowe WAS a 50 pts player. He no longer is. Any team that wants Clowe is already a good team and wants to win a cup so no way is any team going to acquire Clowe to fit him on the top 6 ...that doesn't make any sense!
lots of players dip, look at ryder the last year he played for us, it's just one shortened season, the guy is a warrior he'll be fine come playoff time he just needs a change of scenary

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Would love Jagr if the Stars don't mind Bourque as a return.

Jagr - Plekanec - Gallagher
Pacioretty - Desharnais - Ryder
Prust/Galchenyuk - Eller - Gionta
Prust/Galchenyuk - Halpern - Moen

Jagr will make the Habs PP actually good and have a forward threat instead of just relying on Subban/Markov. He can mentor the young players (Galchenyuk/Eller especially) and maximize Plekanec's offensive output.

If only Bourque wasn't injured...

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03-30-2013, 11:06 PM
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lots of players dip, look at ryder the last year he played for us, it's just one shortened season, the guy is a warrior he'll be fine come playoff time he just needs a change of scenary
Totally agree! And that's why i'm interested in acquiring him but he was never a 1st liner even in his prime so no way is he a 1st liner now. I think he will add sandpaper to our 3rd and 4th line but that's basically it.

To suggest that we need to guarantee him top 6 minutes so he can waive his NTC is ridiculous. No team is going for Clowe to fill a top 6 role.

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03-30-2013, 11:08 PM
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lots of players dip, look at ryder the last year he played for us, it's just one shortened season, the guy is a warrior he'll be fine come playoff time he just needs a change of scenary
Right on...Pleky same thing,then boom next yr....Clowe needs a change,the goals will follow too.

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Stars are trying to sign Jagr to an extension. I don't think he gets moved.

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Stars are trying to sign Jagr to an extension. I don't think he gets moved.
We need JAGGER!!


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I would pay a second and a prospect for Clowe. We are hoarding prospects plus we still got a boatload of picks to use. I would do 2ND plus Leblanc.

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I don't want Clowe, but if it happened: Clowe with Galchenyuk and Eller. Or he plays with Max and DD and Gally goes down to the Eller line.

Prust bumps out Armstrong and plays with Halpern and Moen.

If Bourque came back, then I guess Galchenyuk would sit in the playoffs if we're healthy like Seguin did in 2011 for BOS. Or we go all-out offence with something like this:

Ryder - Pleks - Gio
Pac - DD - Clowe
Prust - Eller - Gally
Bourque - Chucky - Halpern or Moen.
This is a legitimate Stanley Cup winning forward lineup.

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03-30-2013, 11:22 PM
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Clowe has put up in the playoffs,68 games 45pts.

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This is a legitimate Stanley Cup winning forward lineup.
It lacks some star power but I agree.

We must also keep in mind that the crux of any cup run is always the defense and how the system works come playoff time. Hopefully we've also got that covered (at least I hope).

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03-30-2013, 11:26 PM
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I always said I didn't want Clowe if the price is too steep but let's say we can get him for a 2nd and a "medium" prospect, would you do it?

I know there aren't much room in our line up right now, even less when Bourque comes back but although Clowes sucks this season, I have a feeling that he will perform well in the playoffs like he always did.

Plus, in our top 9, we have a lot of guys that have little to none playoffs experience. Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Pacioretty never tasted NHL playoffs hockey while DD only have 5 playoffs games, 5 for Bourque and 7 for Eller.

So we clearly lack playoffs experience in our top 9 with a total of 17 games in 6 of our top 9 players. So Clowe and his 45 pts in 68 playoffs games could help us big time. I'm pretty sure he will feel appreciated and could sign an extension with the Habs. I'm also not sure having a kid like Galchenyuk in our top 9 in the playoffs.


Also, I know Gionta is frustrating to watch lately but I think we will change our mind on him when we see him perform in the playoffs.

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It lacks some star power but I agree.

We must also keep in mind that the crux of any cup run is always the defense and how the system works come playoff time. Hopefully we've also got that covered (at least I hope).
Boston had no star power. Same with Philly.

Depth>>>>>>>Star power

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boston had no star power. Same with philly.

Depth>>>>>>>star power
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I always said I didn't want Clowe if the price is too steep but let's say we can get him for a 2nd and a "medium" prospect, would you do it?

I know there aren't much room in our line up right now, even less when Bourque comes back but although Clowes sucks this season, I have a feeling that he will perform well in the playoffs like he always did.

Plus, in our top 9, we have a lot of guys that have little to none playoffs experience. Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Pacioretty never tasted NHL playoffs hockey while DD only have 5 playoffs games, 5 for Bourque and 7 for Eller.

So we clearly lack playoffs experience in our top 9 with a total of 17 games in 6 of our top 9 players. So Clowe and his 45 pts in 68 playoffs games could help us big time. I'm pretty sure he will feel appreciated and could sign an extension with the Habs. I'm also not sure having a kid like Galchenyuk in our top 9 in the playoffs.


Also, I know Gionta is frustrating to watch lately but I think we will change our mind on him when we see him perform in the playoffs.
Clowe isnt sucking this season. He has 64 shots and none have gone in. He is having a snake-bit season.

Clowe is 7th in scoring for the Sharks. 7th. He has 11 points.

A change of scenery can be a big help for a player like Clowe.

Make it happen Marc!!!!

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