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03-31-2013, 12:54 AM
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Kulemin is a shining example of a player that all casual fans hate. It's sad really.

"Derp. He doesn't score goals."
"Derp. Remember when he was able to score goals?"
"Derp. Kulemin is useless."

I've lost count of the amount of times I've heard that while watching games with people who just casually watch the Leafs.

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03-31-2013, 12:55 AM
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I almost feel like we have 9 top 6 forwards tbh.

Kessel, JVR, Lupul, Kadri, Bozak, MacArthur, Frattin, Grabovski, and Kulemin

When put on one of the top two lines, they produce.
When they are on the third line/shutdown line, they don't really produce offensively, yet are focused on the defensive play.

All 9 of them can score 50+ points in the nhl if given the right opportunity.

Maybe I'm overrating our guys, but I really love our forward depth.

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03-31-2013, 01:02 AM
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Simpson and Hughson are idiots.

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03-31-2013, 01:48 AM
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I almost feel like we have 9 top 6 forwards tbh.

Kessel, JVR, Lupul, Kadri, Bozak, MacArthur, Frattin, Grabovski, and Kulemin

When put on one of the top two lines, they produce.
When they are on the third line/shutdown line, they don't really produce offensively, yet are focused on the defensive play.

All 9 of them can score 50+ points in the nhl if given the right opportunity.

Maybe I'm overrating our guys, but I really love our forward depth.
To be honest, many players will look like top 6ers playing beside Kessel or Kadri, these two are THAT good offensively. How much of our offense has been generated by these two, they have to be involved in 50% of leafs goals, I won't even look it up.

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03-31-2013, 02:06 AM
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To be honest, many players will look like top 6ers playing beside Kessel or Kadri, these two are THAT good offensively. How much of our offense has been generated by these two, they have to be involved in 50% of leafs goals, I won't even look it up.
I think it's time to start including Joffrey Lupul in that equation too. He has been above-PPG throughout the 11-12 & 12-13 seasons and is constantly producing offense on his own.

I think he finally have 3 legitimate top line players, and it feels ****ing awesome.


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03-31-2013, 02:08 AM
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Anybody who says "Kulemin is just along for the ride" is a complete dumbass.

Kulemin is one of the hardest working Leafs and works his ass off. He does a lot of great work along the boards and is a valuable player on this team, especially at his current cap hit.

I would love to punch Simpson in the face, really hate that guy.
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Kulemin doesn't get enough recognition and it's always the quiet ones. I could say the same for Jay McClement.

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03-31-2013, 02:08 AM
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To be honest, many players will look like top 6ers playing beside Kessel or Kadri, these two are THAT good offensively. How much of our offense has been generated by these two, they have to be involved in 50% of leafs goals, I won't even look it up.
All of them are top six forward. In fact, the difference between the majority and say, Kessel, is he's elite. Lupul and Kadri are looking to be very special as well. On the other hand, the majority of the top six players in the NHL are not elite player. The rest fall into that category.

PS: Grabovski is a special player as well. Very underrated.

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03-31-2013, 02:37 AM
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Doesn't matter what line kulemin is on, he brings the same thing to the table. I love his game and would be very mad if we moved him short of a massive overpayment

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03-31-2013, 03:11 AM
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He's just fine.

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03-31-2013, 03:31 AM
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Kulemin is a shining example of a player that all casual fans hate. It's sad really.

"Derp. He doesn't score goals."
"Derp. Remember when he was able to score goals?"
"Derp. Kulemin is useless."

I've lost count of the amount of times I've heard that while watching games with people who just casually watch the Leafs.

Gotta agree with this. It was great when he had that 30 goal season obviously, but the best part of Kuli's game is his work in the neutral zone and on the boards.

His ability to rub opposing players off the puck, create turnovers and win those battles on a regular basis makes him a valuable asset alone. When his scoring game is on, it's just an added bonus. Glad he's getting recognition again, we'll see how long it lasts.

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03-31-2013, 06:26 AM
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I love his game and would be very mad if we moved him short of a massive overpayment
Kuli has been my favourite Leaf player the last few years, so I would likewise be pissed if he was traded. Great work ethic, great hustle.

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03-31-2013, 06:50 AM
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On the team:

Kulemin is tied for 2nd. in even strength points with Kessel.

Kessel gets 2 more minutes of even strength ice time per game.

Kulemin and McClement are the two key forwards on the PK.

I think Kulemin pulls his weight, and professionals in hockey would know that.

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Nice post, man.

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03-31-2013, 07:39 AM
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I bet Hughson and Simpson couldn't sleep last night.

First the Leafs spanked the Sens 4-0. Then they had to watch the Oilers score 3 in the first 5 minutes and a hattrick by Hall in the first eight minutes.

Sedin twins sure are streaky.

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Great post. Kulemin is the definition of a player who does the small things that you don't see on the scoresheet. Carlyle sees it, which is why he's on the PK and always sticks on the first couple lines.

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Another reason why hughson and Simpson are complete idiots and should go back to calling Vancouver games "oh burrows isn't along for the ride he's an amazing compliment to the Sedins" these 2 are some of the biggest homers ever

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please don't trade Kuli ! extend 3yrs

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03-31-2013, 09:31 AM
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Sign Kule and Bozak, key players moving fwd. RC recognizes their value.

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03-31-2013, 09:36 AM
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Kulemin has been producing 4 goals and 7 pts in the last ten games. As a matter of fact, this was prior to his change and includes adjustment time as well. Point being, those who are able to utilize his goal scoring ability will be able to enhance their own production.

Book it. Kulemin is going to be a +30 goal scorer while providing a defensive game that top-six forwards rarely offer. He has a lot of natural talent and it'll get obvious soon. In fact, I think his upside is a lot greater than Carter Ashton, Tyler Biggs, etc. I wouldn't even trade him for Sean Couturier imo.

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03-31-2013, 09:44 AM
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Kulemin is proving to be the perfect support winger for Lupul and Kadri after he left the black hole former #2C of the team's line. Funny I suggested this line when Lupul came back and for Kule to specifically be put on this line..

He adds spade work, a tireless worker, and a defensive conscience to 2 elite offensive players. I would have no problem playing this line against Crosby's line head to head if we met in the playoffs. The ingredients are all present for a top well rounded line.

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kuli is what I would call a very underrated leader

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Anybody who says "Kulemin is just along for the ride" is a complete dumbass.

Kulemin is one of the hardest working Leafs and works his ass off. He does a lot of great work along the boards and is a valuable player on this team, especially at his current cap hit.
this. kuli is a great player to have

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03-31-2013, 10:47 AM
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Kulie's team-mates know what he can do and respect him plenty i'm sure. Thats all that matters.

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Sign Kule and Bozak, key players moving fwd. RC recognizes their value.
Kuli yes, he's a keeper.

Boz, i vote off the island.

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Kulemin is proving to be the perfect support winger for Lupul and Kadri after he left the black hole former #2C of the team's line. Funny I suggested this line when Lupul came back and for Kule to specifically be put on this line..

He adds spade work, a tireless worker, and a defensive conscience to 2 elite offensive players. I would have no problem playing this line against Crosby's line head to head if we met in the playoffs. The ingredients are all present for a top well rounded line.
Ahh, so that was you i debated the merits of Kuli vs Frat.

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