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03-31-2013, 12:29 PM
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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=419508

Y'know what? As long as it's cheap then whatever

Better not be anywhere around the 1st, 2nd and prospect they're asking for though

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Man I take Ribiero way before Heater. I don't think people understand how scummy and self-centered Heater is.

Heater is also totally incapable of creating his own offense. So he's essentially going to do whatever Krejci enables him to do.
Oh really? He is considered one of the nicest guys in the league according to a SI poll. Can't link on this device but its easy to find.


And I've heard that from people outside of this poll. I think you're mixing up those funny youtube videos with reality.

I know we're not getting him but I disagree that he is scummy and self-centered.

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03-31-2013, 12:33 PM
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People need to realize that a big name is unlikely. ESPECIALLY if what we are offering are picks/prospects/ and bottom of the roster guys.

Focus on mid-tier guys on failing teams.

Fleishman
Tanguay
Vermette

stuff like that
I think this is why the team probably won't get the type of defenseman they need at the deadline. I just don't see anyone available from a trading partner that we could afford both in the trade return and for the cap.

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03-31-2013, 01:44 PM
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I think this is why the team probably won't get the type of defenseman they need at the deadline. I just don't see anyone available from a trading partner that we could afford both in the trade return and for the cap.

My thoughts are that PC will do a deal on the defense that not only will help the team this year but also for next year.

There is always a trading partner and he just needs to find it.

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03-31-2013, 01:54 PM
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F Freddie Hamilton
F Ryane Clowe

to SJ:

F Alexander Khokhlachev
F Jordan Caron
D Matt Bartowski
2013 1st Round Pick

It would be interesting to see who is ranked higher by scouts and HF, Hamilton or Khokhlachev considering they are both high end prospects for their respective teams.

Wilson gets his package + for Clowe and Boston gets Hamilton in exchange for Khokhlachev. I also believe it is in the best interests to move Khokhlachev now that you have made intentions clear to him that he is an asset they will move. Freddie for Khokhlachev is a lateral move in any other case but you pay a little extra on the Clowe side of the deal to make it worthwhile for Wilson.

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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=419508

Y'know what? As long as it's cheap then whatever

Better not be anywhere around the 1st, 2nd and prospect they're asking for though
I'm all for Clowe joining the B's if, like you said, the price isn't too high.

Marchand - Bergeron - Seguin
Dogman - Krejci - Horton
Lucic - Peverley - Clowe
Paille - Campbell - Thornton

Hopefully Clowe could light the fire under Lucic to make him play like the Lucic all the other teams hate to play against. That's also a scary 3rd line to play against if you ask me haha. Dogman is faster than Lucic so he'll provide the much needed speed for the Krejci line. When Soderberg comes, put Pevs on the LW on the Krejci line and have Soderberg center Lucic and Clowe.

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to BOS:

F Freddie Hamilton
F Ryane Clowe

to SJ:

F Alexander Khokhlachev
F Jordan Caron
D Matt Bartowski
2013 1st Round Pick

It would be interesting to see who is ranked higher by scouts and HF, Hamilton or Khokhlachev considering they are both high end prospects for their respective teams.

Wilson gets his package + for Clowe and Boston gets Hamilton in exchange for Khokhlachev. I also believe it is in the best interests to move Khokhlachev now that you have made intentions clear to him that he is an asset they will move. Freddie for Khokhlachev is a lateral move in any other case but you pay a little extra on the Clowe side of the deal to make it worthwhile for Wilson.
Overpayment.

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to BOS:

F Freddie Hamilton
F Ryane Clowe

to SJ:

F Alexander Khokhlachev
F Jordan Caron
D Matt Bartowski
2013 1st Round Pick

It would be interesting to see who is ranked higher by scouts and HF, Hamilton or Khokhlachev considering they are both high end prospects for their respective teams.

Wilson gets his package + for Clowe and Boston gets Hamilton in exchange for Khokhlachev.
So we get another slumping slow power forward and an ok prospect for that package? I wouldn't even deal Koko straight up for those two guys.

Koko being the youngest drafted player in his draft in 2011, could have easily been a first rounder in 2012. Guy is tearing it up this year, only way I move him if it will make the team much better immediately. Adding a slow 30 year old under performing forward who has 0 goals in 28 games and has been a liability on SJ is not gonna make us any better. We need skill and speed, not another slow role player that has been horrible for the Sharks this year.

To put it lightly, I will be disappointed if Chia overpays for a player like Clowe. I would give them Caron + mid level pick at most. The guy is just not good this year, not worth one of our top prospects.

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03-31-2013, 02:03 PM
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With Crosby probably out for the season and maybe part of the playoffs put less pressure on Chia to make a move, especially when it comes to overpaying for a Ryan Clowe type?

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Does Crosby being out for the season and possibly part of the playoffs put less pressure on Chia to make a move, especially when it comes to overpaying for a Ryan Clowe type?
I hope not.

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Does Crosby being out for the season and possibly part of the playoffs put less pressure on Chia to make a move, especially when it comes to overpaying for a Ryan Clowe type?
Crosby being out doesn't make out third line less ******.

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03-31-2013, 02:08 PM
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Crosby being out doesn't make out third line less ******.
This. If the bruins don't address the third line they won't even get a chance to pay Crosby

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I just dont want to see Koko and a first traded away for a struggling power forward, who somehow cant put one puck in the back of the net in almost 30 games with significant TOI...there has to be some other alternative option out there

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03-31-2013, 02:11 PM
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With Crosby probably out for the season and maybe part of the playoffs put less pressure on Chia to make a move, especially when it comes to overpaying for a Ryan Clowe type?
It puts more pressure on him to make a move. If Crosby is out for an extended period of time which includes the playoffs, it means the Bruins' chances just went up far.

In 2011 Crosby was out for the playoffs and Tampa Bay knocked off Pittsburgh. If a repeat scenario could happen in 2013, Chiarelli needs to load up.

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03-31-2013, 02:13 PM
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It puts more pressure on him to make a move. If Crosby is out for an extended period of time which includes the playoffs, it means the Bruins' chances just went up far.

In 2011 Crosby was out for the playoffs and Tampa Bay knocked off Pittsburgh. If a repeat scenario could happen in 2013, Chiarelli needs to load up.
Not to mention that he should be loading up anyways, doing nothign would be ridiculous.

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Crosby being out doesn't make out third line less ******.
Precisely.

Getting a top-end goal scoring talent would be sexy, but IMO we need to find a 3rd line winger. We have 6 d-men signed for next year, but I don't think they plan on Matt playing (possibly as the #7 guy), so they also need a d-man.

If a top 4 D isn't available, that can wait until the summer - Ference is still a viable #5/6 guy.

The other issue is Horton - sign him or trade him. Personally, I have a gut feeling he's going to be traded. Three separate deals, one to bring in Horty's replacement, another to replace the picks/prospects by shipping Horty out, and a third to bring in a fix for the 3rd line.

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03-31-2013, 02:15 PM
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It puts more pressure on him to make a move. If Crosby is out for an extended period of time which includes the playoffs, it means the Bruins' chances just went up far.

In 2011 Crosby was out for the playoffs and Tampa Bay knocked off Pittsburgh. If a repeat scenario could happen in 2013, Chiarelli needs to load up.
This.

Prime years of Chara cannot be wasted. Boston needs to leap on it and add the depth they need to make their run. Any word on Kelly?

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I would make this type deal but I think we need to make it even bigger

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to BOS:

F Freddie Hamilton
F Ryane Clowe

to SJ:

F Alexander Khokhlachev
F Jordan Caron
D Matt Bartowski
2013 1st Round Pick

It would be interesting to see who is ranked higher by scouts and HF, Hamilton or Khokhlachev considering they are both high end prospects for their respective teams.

Wilson gets his package + for Clowe and Boston gets Hamilton in exchange for Khokhlachev. I also believe it is in the best interests to move Khokhlachev now that you have made intentions clear to him that he is an asset they will move. Freddie for Khokhlachev is a lateral move in any other case but you pay a little extra on the Clowe side of the deal to make it worthwhile for Wilson.
I still feel like this is overpayment. I would try and expand the deal...

F Rich PEVERLEY
F Alexander KHOKHLACHEV
D Matt BARTKOWSKI
D Johnny BOYCHUK
2013 1st Round Pick

For Ryane CLOWE
Dan BOYLE
Freddy HAMILTON

LUCIC-KRECJI-HORTON
MARCHAND-BERGERON-SEGUIN
CLOWE-SPOONER/KELLY-SODERBERG/CARON
PAILLE-CAMPBELL-THORNTON
DAUGAVINS

CHARA-BOYLE
SEIDENBERG-HAMILTON
FERENCE-MCQUAID/JOHNSON

RASK
KHODOBIN

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This.

Prime years of Chara cannot be wasted. Boston needs to leap on it and add the depth they need to make their run. Any word on Kelly?
Supposedly Kelly is ahead of schedule.

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Supposedly Kelly is ahead of schedule.
Fantastic. There was no mention of it in our injury thread.

I feel confidant that if the third line was:

Soderberg - Kelly - Horton

That we could roll three lines consistently throughout the playoffs. Just getting Soderberg here, Kelly back and Clowe into the lineup gives Julien his depth that has won this team Cups.

Marchand - Bergeron - Seguin
Lucic - Krejci - Clowe
Soderberg - Kelly - Horton
Paille - Campbell - Peverley
Thornton/Dogman

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03-31-2013, 02:27 PM
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Wait until Clowe is skating in a Montreal jersey pounding us and then watch this board
implode with everyone blaming Chiarelli for not paying up to get him .
I still don't understand this places stranglehold on every kid we've got
in the minors or juniors and how they're all untouchable going way back to
Karsums !!
Clowe is going to find the net again soon and bangs every shift . I say put him in
a bruins uniform yesterday

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with all due respect PC did try to make an impact trade
the fact that Iginla changed his mind and only wanted Pitt
does not negate the fact that PC tried to get the best available forward he could
for this team.
what remains as possible trade options is far less of an impact.
if nothing happens between now and the trade deadline i can understand it
do not overpay ...
the window of opportunity for some on the team is closing - yes,...
but it is not time to panic
management needs to be smart
the regular season
actually means very little
other than evaluating the team
and winning enough games to make the playoffs
once the playoffs begin anything can happen
i would rather stand pat with the team at hand
than trade away valuable proscepts just to make a trade

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Wait until Clowe is skating in a Montreal jersey pounding us and then watch this board
implode with everyone blaming Chiarelli for not paying up to get him .
I still don't understand this places stranglehold on every kid we've got
in the minors or juniors and how they're all untouchable going way back to
Karsums !!
Clowe is going to find the net again soon and bangs every shift . I say put him in
a bruins uniform yesterday

^^^^^^^^^^ what he says^^^^^^^^^^

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03-31-2013, 02:31 PM
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It puts more pressure on him to make a move. If Crosby is out for an extended period of time which includes the playoffs, it means the Bruins' chances just went up far.

In 2011 Crosby was out for the playoffs and Tampa Bay knocked off Pittsburgh. If a repeat scenario could happen in 2013, Chiarelli needs to load up.
I agree with this, but i dont think we need to overpay for Clowe. Chia needs to get creative, giving up a 1st and koko (or similar) for Clowe would just be lazy on his part IMO, go after a Jaime McGinn type if he could be had fairly cheap

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