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Mikhail Grabovski, Tyler Bozak, Clarke MacArthur, John Michael-Liles

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03-31-2013, 06:26 PM
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Mikhail Grabovski, Tyler Bozak, Clarke MacArthur, John Michael-Liles

What would you offer for:

Mikhail Grabovski
Tyler Bozak
Clarke MacArthur
John Michael Liles

These are all names that are involved in plenty of rumours.

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03-31-2013, 06:26 PM
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Shouldn't the Leafs not trade players from their roster right now?

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03-31-2013, 06:33 PM
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Shouldn't the Leafs not trade players from their roster right now?
Agreed. The Leafs will not be dealing their depth scoring going into the playoffs...unless it is in a package for an upgrade. I guess the OP can be excused...it has been so long since the Leafs made the playoffs, it is possible he has forgotten or even does not know this.

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Im all for making the team better, trading slumping players on a whim is a bad idea when going to the playoffs. They all have great talent but are asked to do different roles eith the emergance of kadri. Leafs need to keep their depth

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Would you trade Bozak for:

2nd + 3rd in this years draft?

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03-31-2013, 06:53 PM
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Would you trade Bozak for:

2nd + 3rd in this years draft?
Lol no...

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03-31-2013, 06:56 PM
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Lol no...
If Nonis plans to sign him he isn't traded, but if Nonis does not plan to sign him what is his value?

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03-31-2013, 07:04 PM
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Would you trade Bozak for:

2nd + 3rd in this years draft?
Bozak is worth more than that. Look what Murray got

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If Nonis plans to sign him he isn't traded, but if Nonis does not plan to sign him what is his value?
We'd want a center that can take his place, we're not going to lose a roster player for picks.

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If Nonis plans to sign him he isn't traded, but if Nonis does not plan to sign him what is his value?
Much more than Douglas Murray lol...

I'd say late 1st +

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What would you offer for:

Mikhail Grabovski
Tyler Bozak
Clarke MacArthur
John Michael Liles

These are all names that are involved in plenty of rumours.
I doubt Nonis moves Grabo or Bozak with the way the team is playing right now. Could see Mac/Liles moved though. Hopefully as part of a package for a dman upgrade.

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What would you offer for:

Mikhail Grabovski
Tyler Bozak
Clarke MacArthur
John Michael Liles

These are all names that are involved in plenty of rumours.
Assuming all NTC are waived:

Grabovski: 1st+top 10 prospect+lower tier 2nd/high tier 3rd line player
Bozak: 3rd rounder/4th line grinder under 30
MacArthur: 2nd rounder/3rd liner
Liles: 1st+4/5 D-Man

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Bozak and MacArthur are most likely the most desirable since it seems most of the contenders are looking for rentals more than players with term, due to potential cap squeeze this summer.

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Would you trade Bozak for:

2nd + 3rd in this years draft?
Meh, he's a rental that we likely wont be able to re-sign, if we are giving up 2 early picks I would rather do it for someone like Goc who will be around longer than 12 games and the playoffs.

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Bozak is worth more than that. Look what Murray got
Look at what Gagne, Ponikarovsky, Iginla and Loktionov got.

One team overpaying because they are in a position to do so doesn't set the market for everyone else.

No one is giving up more than that for rental Bozak who is demanding more money then he's worth.

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Much more than Douglas Murray lol...

I'd say late 1st +
1st+

Sure when you give us 1st+ for Higgins.


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03-31-2013, 07:31 PM
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Assuming all NTC are waived:

Grabovski: 1st+top 10 prospect+lower tier 2nd/high tier 3rd line player
Bozak: 3rd rounder/4th line grinder under 30
MacArthur: 2nd rounder/3rd liner
Liles: 1st+4/5 D-Man
Only assessment I agree with is MacA

You overvalue Grabo, he's great but that's asking a lot...

Undervalue Bozak pretty badly

Overvalue JML as well.

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Assuming all NTC are waived:

Grabovski: 1st+top 10 prospect+lower tier 2nd/high tier 3rd line player
Bozak: 3rd rounder/4th line grinder under 30
MacArthur: 2nd rounder/3rd liner
Liles: 1st+4/5 D-Man
You know Grabovski is a making 5.5 Million for the next 4 years right. I would say his value is right around where people think David Booth's value is.

MacArthur can probably bring home a 2nd and a 4th/5th. Maybe more if a GM gets desperate.

Liles... Hmmm.. probably about the same as MacArthur, maybe 2nd + C prospect/later pick aswell.

I think Bozak is the same as Liles and MacArthur aswell. 2nd + 4th/5th or something of similar value.

I don't think anyone is going to be giving up 1st round picks for average players this year. It hasn't happened yet and I don't see it happening anytime soon.

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03-31-2013, 07:34 PM
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not on your list but, Kulemin and a 1st for Clarkson and Burlon.

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03-31-2013, 07:37 PM
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Only assessment I agree with is MacA

You overvalue Grabo, he's great but that's asking a lot...

Undervalue Bozak pretty badly

Overvalue JML as well.
Grabo on a line with talented players (Sedin/Sedin or Datsyuk/Zetterberg) would illicit an insane number of points. He is a great scorer on a crappy line.

JML is going to get the going rate for d-men. I consider him better/harder working than JayBow, who the Flames fans around here expect 1st+top 3 prospect+4/5 D. The answer of his value is somewhere in the middle.

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not on your list but, kulemin and a 1st for clarkson and burlon.
lolwut

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not on your list but, Kulemin and a 1st for Clarkson and Burlon.
I wouldn't even trade a first rounder alone for a UFA Clarkson.

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Grabo on a line with talented players (Sedin/Sedin or Datsyuk/Zetterberg) would illicit an insane number of points. He is a great scorer on a crappy line.

JML is going to get the going rate for d-men. I consider him better/harder working than JayBow, who the Flames fans around here expect 1st+top 3 prospect+4/5 D. The answer of his value is somewhere in the middle.
Nothing about Grabovski's offensive game seems great to me.

I don't JML value is near what Bouwmeester's is.

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I wouldn't even trade a first rounder alone for a UFA Clarkson.
That's interesting because some of your fan base consider Bozak worth 1st +. Would you say Bozak or Clarkson is worth more?

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That's interesting because some of your fan base consider Bozak worth 1st +. Would you say Bozak or Clarkson is worth more?
Bozak, but it's close.

Bozie is younger, a C, and has out produced Clarkson offensively in every season they were both in the league...

Clarkson has the physical edge, and the pest edge advantage though.

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not on your list but, Kulemin and a 1st for Clarkson and Burlon.
What would you think about something based around Grabovski and Clarkson?

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Bozak, but it's close.

Bozie is younger, a C, and has out produced Clarkson offensively in every season they were both in the league...

Clarkson has the physical edge, and the pest edge advantage though.
Clarkson is a far harder player to replace than Bozak. I would bet money that all 30 GMs around the league would disagree with you. Wait till the off season and see who gets paid more.

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