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03-31-2013, 08:24 PM
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Curtis Glencross is absolutely a legitimate top six forward.
25+ goal scorers don't grow on trees folks, nevermind players signed for 2.5M dollars.

Ben Bishop has impressed for a whopping 13 game sample size at the age of 26. He does not hold the value of a proven goal scorer signed to one of the leagues best value contracts.
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Seriously? Glencross is a 25+ goal scorer who kills penatlys and plays physically he is the perfect 2nd line winger signed to one of the best contracts. Bishop is having a good season but I find it hard to believe he repeats that success on the Flames and we potentially have Ramo coming over next year for free why move Glencross?
Calling Glencross a 25 goal scorer because he scored 25 goals once is a bit of a stretch. It would be like shooting down a Rob Brown trade because he's a 100 point player.

I like Glencross a lot, wish the Oilers never gave him up. But if you're the Flames, dumping contracts to make room for young players is your m.o. here and if you're able to add a 26-year-old goalie with #1 ability, you've got to make that deal.

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03-31-2013, 08:26 PM
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Ugh...it would sicken me to see Glencross in a Sens jersey. Been a fan of him since his days as a member of the Brooks Bandits.

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03-31-2013, 08:26 PM
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3rd goalie for a Top-9 forward with grit, yeah, not so much.
Bishop has the best winning percentage and most wins on the Sens. You are clueless.

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03-31-2013, 08:27 PM
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Personally I think Bishop + Da Costa for Glencross is pretty fair value.
(Forget all this NMC/NTC stuff for a second).

Bishop at worst will end up being a 1B goalie, and Da Costa has 2nd line potential.

Glencross has scored well his last 2.5 years. But he's never hit 50 points in a season. At best he's a 2nd liner...most of his career he's a 2nd/3rd line guy.
He put up 48 points in 67 games though, let's be fair. He's also signed for two more years at 2.5 million, it would be a great deal for the Senators if it came true.

You're right about moving Da Costa. He's expendable give all the prospect depth. As long as Z-bad and Turris are on the roster, Da Costa is going to have a hard time breaking through. Flames might be able to use him though, he's NHL ready and might end up better than either of the two guys currently ahead of him on the depth chart.

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any trade Feaster makes is going to be bad..
That's true. Has there even been one trade he's made with the Flames that we can equivocally say he won? I can't think of any.

And just who would score goals for Calgary if we trade Glencross for a goalie?


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03-31-2013, 08:29 PM
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Will Bishop have to clear waivers after preseason if the Senators go with three goalies?

How about Bishop to the Flames for absolutely nothing. Being in 28th place has it's perks. And we are trending towards 30th!

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03-31-2013, 08:31 PM
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Calling Glencross a 25 goal scorer because he scored 25 goals once is a bit of a stretch. It would be like shooting down a Rob Brown trade because he's a 100 point player.

I like Glencross a lot, wish the Oilers never gave him up. But if you're the Flames, dumping contracts to make room for young players is your m.o. here and if you're able to add a 26-year-old goalie with #1 ability, you've got to make that deal.
He's on pace for 37 in a full 82 game schedule. It's entirely safe to say Glencross is a 25 goal scorer.

And considering the Flames depth on goaltending, wasting an asset like Glencross on yet another one, would be a terrible decision.

In any case, considering this isn't actually rumour, would you mind changing the title to something more appropriate, like speculation?

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03-31-2013, 08:31 PM
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Calling Glencross a 25 goal scorer because he scored 25 goals once is a bit of a stretch. It would be like shooting down a Rob Brown trade because he's a 100 point player.
24 goals one other time. Last season on pace for 31 goals over 82 games. This season, on pace for 37 goals in a full 82 game season. I'd call him a late bloomer more than anything.

I could see Bishop + a bit more. The biggest thing is to be able to convince Glencross to waive for Ottawa. I think that they could - some fine ranching out there, plus the City of Ottawa has a nice kind of vibe to it.

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How about Bishop + Greening for Glencross?

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Considering this is a rumour from the Sun, there's nothing to see here.

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Calling Glencross a 25 goal scorer because he scored 25 goals once is a bit of a stretch. It would be like shooting down a Rob Brown trade because he's a 100 point player.

I like Glencross a lot, wish the Oilers never gave him up. But if you're the Flames, dumping contracts to make room for young players is your m.o. here and if you're able to add a 26-year-old goalie with #1 ability, you've got to make that deal.
24 goals in 79 games in 2010-11
26 goals in 67 games in 2011-12
14 goals in 31 games this year.

64 goals in his last 177 games. Thats a 29.5 goals/82 game average. Call him whatever you want but I'll call him a damn good goalscorer.

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How about Bishop + Greening for Glencross?
Switch Greening to Noeson and add in the Sens 2013 first and there might be a deal worth exploring. Well, there would be if Glencross was willing to waive his NMC which is highly unlikely.

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How about Bishop + Greening for Glencross?
If the Sens were to offer Bishop + 1st I think the Flames would consider it.

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Switch Greening to Noeson and add in the Sens 2013 first and there might be a deal worth exploring. Well, there would be if Glencross was willing to waive his NMC which is highly unlikely.
I wasn't talking to you.

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ben bishop is a great up and coming goaltender, and with rumors of kipper retiring, i can see bishop fitting in well in calgary. that said, i'm not too sure i would trade glencross straight across, but if there is a deal to be made, the flames could possibly have a goalie in bishop who is a starter for many years

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I wonder which fat-fold Garrioch pulled this out of

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I wasn't talking to you.
That's nice. But your proposal still sucked.

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I like Bishop, but with Ramo, Brossoit, and Gilles, I'd be in no rush to grab him. Especially not at the expense of Glencross, unless Ottawa adds to the deal significantly.

Regardless, Glencross isn't likely to waive his NTC.

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I thought Ramo was the superstar of the future.

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Good god... please no, Feaster.

I have no problem picking up Bishop, but not at the cost of Glencross.

I'd hope Noesen or a 1st would also be included.
I assume it'll be a first or Puempel added and a mid round pick from Calgary. Makes some sense.

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Switch Greening to Noeson and add in the Sens 2013 first and there might be a deal worth exploring. Well, there would be if Glencross was willing to waive his NMC which is highly unlikely.

Glencross is worth Bishop + Noesen + 1st? that's silly talk.

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I like Bishop, but with Ramo, Brossoit, and Gilles, I'd be in no rush to grab him. Especially not at the expense of Glencross, unless Ottawa adds to the deal significantly.

Regardless, Glencross isn't likely to waive his NTC.
Let's be realistic. How many of those names you listed are even close to competing for a backup spot in the NHL? Maybe Ramo? That's it. The Flames need to look at goaltending options that could be looked at as viable successors to Kiprusoff. The names you listed don't fit the bill.

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Even if Kipper retires, we can go with a Ramo/MacDonald tandem next year. It's not like Calgary will be competing for a playoff spot anyway. Besides, Glencross is one of the few players I'd like to keep. Plus he's already said not to bother asking him about waiving his NTC.

This rumor has no legs.

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That's nice. But your proposal still sucked.
And this still would have been a more intelligent reply than your first one

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I wonder which fat-fold Garrioch pulled this out of
The one behind his neck. Although the ones on his chin usually drop some juicy Radek Bonk rumors.

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