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What would it cost to get Shawn Matthias from Florida:


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Can someone explain to me why all this talk about Clowe? A 30 year old winger for San Jose who has no goals this year? Sure I see he has size but enlighten me please. Has he expressed interest in Mtl or something?

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Can someone explain to me why all this talk about Clowe? A 30 year old winger for San Jose who has no goals this year? Sure I see he has size but enlighten me please. Has he expressed interest in Mtl or something?
He's big. Thats the reason.

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Can someone explain to me why all this talk about Clowe? A 30 year old winger for San Jose who has no goals this year? Sure I see he has size but enlighten me please. Has he expressed interest in Mtl or something?
how often to players express interest in another team mid season when they are on another team?....let me answer that for you NONE

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Can someone explain to me why all this talk about Clowe? A 30 year old winger for San Jose who has no goals this year? Sure I see he has size but enlighten me please. Has he expressed interest in Mtl or something?
As mentioned, size and toughness. He's also pretty much the only winger without a bad contract who can play in the top 6 known to be fully available.

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He's big. Thats the reason.
Why the shakehead?

Yes he is big, we never get too much of those.. and he plays big.

He also have plenty of playoffs experience, we also in big need of that.

He performs quite well in the playoffs. You don't want that?

Yes, he has 0 goal this season but I think we all know that he's capable of much better and maybe he is just snakebitten. And with a production like that, maybe he will come cheaper than a 10-15g player.

I would also wouldn't be surprised that we could give him an extension if things go well with him and us here.

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Can someone explain to me why all this talk about Clowe? A 30 year old winger for San Jose who has no goals this year? Sure I see he has size but enlighten me please. Has he expressed interest in Mtl or something?
He's handsome.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but is Clowe not offensively inert this season (and not like he's an Art Ross contender otherwise)? As much as I get frustrated with Gio, he does play an important role that would only be evidenced by removing him and seeing what happens with a Clowe.

I totally get that Clowe hits and crashes, and I'm fine with acquiring him using picks, but I don't see him making the Ryder-Plek-___ line more effective offensively than Gionta. Remember, Gio is fast and backchecks all the time. It allows Pleks a little more freedom. I don't mind Clowe playing a Prust like role, but we already have Prust and if we are so lucky to get RB back, I'm even more confused about our lineup. I like Prust in the top 9. I guess juggling would have to occur.

Is it certain that Bourque won't return or is it just concussion unpredictable status?

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What would we have to give up for Jason Pominville? He could be a really good top 6 winger for us for this spring.

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So if they are fully healthy (including Bourque) and acquire Clowe, who sits? The 3 most likely to sit then imo, would be Galchenyuk/Armstrong/White. Is that a good guess for scratches?

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What would we have to give up for Jason Pominville? He could be a really good top 6 winger for us for this spring.
Yeah.. plus he's french.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but is Clowe not offensively inert this season (and not like he's an Art Ross contender otherwise)? As much as I get frustrated with Gio, he does play an important role that would only be evidenced by removing him and seeing what happens with a Clowe.

I totally get that Clowe hits and crashes, and I'm fine with acquiring him using picks, but I don't see him making the Ryder-Plek-___ line more effective offensively than Gionta. Remember, Gio is fast and backchecks all the time. It allows Pleks a little more freedom. I don't mind Clowe playing a Prust like role, but we already have Prust and if we are so lucky to get RB back, I'm even more confused about our lineup. I like Prust in the top 9. I guess juggling would have to occur.

Is it certain that Bourque won't return or is it just concussion unpredictable status?
If we get Clowe I'd play him with Prust and Eller. It would make one hell of a third line, tough to play against. Not sure Galchy is ready for the playoffs.

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Looks like Smid is off the market. I'm pretty damn sure the habs aren't looking for a D anymore. The auditions for the core in Hamilton is for knowing them better in case they need them in the playoffs.

They were probably never going to overpay for anybody. Clowe included. 3 days left to prove me wrong.

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Is it certain that Bourque won't return or is it just concussion unpredictable status?
He skated today, so clearly there's still a fairly solid chance he returns this season. But with a concussion, you just never know.

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Why would you want to send Gionta away? He's guy that score about 1 goal every 3 games, regular season OR playoffs throughout his whole career.

He's probably our team best playoffs performer but just because he misses the net too often these days, we should send him away? Bourque, Pacioretty, Eller, DD, Gallagher and Galchenyuk all have 7 playoffs games or under FYI.

Now you want our captain, our most experienced playoffs forwards and our best playoffs performer anywhere but here while 67% of our top 9 have basically no experience at all in the playoffs?

Yeah great thinking there.
For some very odd reason which defy logic, some people are dead set against Gionta and/or Desharnais. That's why.

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Can someone explain to me why all this talk about Clowe? A 30 year old winger for San Jose who has no goals this year? Sure I see he has size but enlighten me please. Has he expressed interest in Mtl or something?
Let's see... last 3-4 years prior to this shorten season:
  • 45-60 points per season
  • 17-24 goals per season
  • 9-15 fights per season
  • 100-150 hits per season

Now put that on a 6'2" 225 lbs frame, on a guy who doesn't mind going in the tough areas, a guy who excels along the boards, a leader (wears the A)... That'd be why.

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Any interest for Fleishman on the cheap?

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For some very odd reason which defy logic, some people are dead set against Gionta and/or Desharnais. That's why.


Let's see... last 3-4 years prior to this shorten season:
  • 45-60 points per season
  • 17-24 goals per season
  • 9-15 fights per season
  • 100-150 hits per season

Now put that on a 6'2" 225 lbs frame, on a guy who doesn't mind going in the tough areas, a guy who excels along the boards, a leader (wears the A)... That'd be why.
Basically Bourque's stats without all the fights and about 15lbs.

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Any interest for Fleishman on the cheap?
No to Versteeg, Fleishman or Pominville. Don't need small soff forwards. Clowe, Clarkson, Jagr for at most a 2nd and maybe a prospect or bust. We have more needs on D especially if Diaz is not coming back. May need a puck voting and a depth dman.

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No to Versteeg, Fleishman or Pominville. Don't need small soff forwards. Clowe, Clarkson, Jagr for at most a 2nd and maybe a prospect or bust. We have more needs on D especially if Diaz is not coming back. May need a puck voting and a depth dman.
Fleishmann is 6ft2.. but yeah.. he's soft.

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03-31-2013, 11:16 PM
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Basically Bourque's stats without all the fights and about 15lbs.
Actually, I was surprised to see that it matches quite closely to... Milan Lucic.

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What would it cost to get Shawn Matthias from Florida:

The Florida fans I know seem to love him and he's cheap for them. Not happening.

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I could see Fleishmann being really good with Eller at some point if a playmaker lined up with them, might nullify the defensiveness of the 3rd line though.

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I think Fleishmann and Eller would be excellent. Florida is clearly going nowhere and they're not going to be building with Fleish. I think a 3rd, or maybe someone like Pateryn could interest Florida, and he'd do wonders in complimenting our scoring. He's having a tough season, but he'll turn it around on a good team.

Although a part of me thinks this team needs something to match Pittsburgh's getting of Iginla. A big splash that turns this team from a maybe contender to a bonafide favourite.

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Fleischmann has been probably Florida's most consistent player. He'd be a good fit here but he doesn't add to the toughness, so like with everyone else it depends on the cost.

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I don't want the Canadiens to trade picks or good prospects. Let's build on the future

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