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04-01-2013, 10:32 AM
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Looks like a bidding war and I don't expect Bergevin to get caught up in one.
Then don't expect MB to improve the club. Trade dealine is always around bidding wars.

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04-01-2013, 10:32 AM
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Leading contenders for Clowe, IMO, would be PHI or MIN but it's fluid situation. NYR, VAN, MTL also in mix. 50-50 it happens today. #tsn
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Have to figure a team like NYR more interested in Clowe as a rental. MTL may be hesitant to pay high rental rates.

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I fully expect MB to make alot more chances come Draft day than he will Wednesday. Maybe small moves... thats my expectations. Not much available.

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Have to figure a team like NYR more interested in Clowe as a rental. MTL may be hesitant to pay high rental rates.
Happy MB is not willing to pay a ton for a rental.

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04-01-2013, 10:36 AM
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Then don't expect MB to improve the club. Trade dealine is always around bidding wars.
The big names, yes, and Clowe is one of them.

I'm torn on Clowe, if there was some kind of guarantee we could get an extension I'd want Bergevin to go hard, but trading a lot of assets for a rental who has 0 goals this year to watch him walk July 1st is the kind of thing that can get a GM fired somewhere down the line.

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04-01-2013, 10:38 AM
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Im just sad nobody even mentions Jagr anymore.

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04-01-2013, 10:42 AM
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Have to figure a team like NYR more interested in Clowe as a rental. MTL may be hesitant to pay high rental rates.

If we can't get him,best we can hope is he goes to another team as a pure rental....then we can scoop him in offseason.....

wonder if habs might be lookin at 6"5 Michal Handzus....on the cheap

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Happy MB is not willing to pay a ton for a rental.
If I'm MB I'm telling San Jose if they're close to a deal with Toronto or Boston, I'll beat it.

Of course this sets up the obvious scenario where a GM would lie about offers he's getting, but I suspect that happens all the time anyway. Incidentally, has anyone ever been caught doing this, and is it tampering?

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I just saw on TSN that Buffalo may trade Vanek if the right deal comes along.

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Is the right deal or maybe a little too right and we're overpaying?

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04-01-2013, 10:44 AM
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Im just sad nobody even mentions Jagr anymore.
Jagr pretty much as the same weaknesses as Clowe (too slow to be anything but a net negative defensively) without the overt toughness but with far more productivity lately. It sounds like Dallas wants to extend him if anything so he'd probably be even more expensive than Clowe, but you never know.

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Even with the prospects that do develop well, you might end up losing them also. You can only stockpile so many prospects; they cant all play for your team. At some point, one way or another, you either keep them, let them sign elsewhere, waive them, or trade them.

If the asking price for Clowe is something like a 2nd and Leblanc, i'd definitely consider it. In my opinion, with the parity in the NHL now, there's no possibility of building a dynasty. In any given year, if the pieces fall into place, you kind of have to go for it. I'm definitely not for sacrificing the future, but I think we are dreaming if we believe that stockpiling prospects will turn our team into a potential 90's-2000's Red Wings. It doesn't really work that way anymore. The majority of GM's now are pretty decent, in the sense that they have scouts everywhere, they miss far less great prospects than they used to. Obviously there are better GM's and better scouts, but not to the degree there was in the 90's.

All to say that prospects can definitely be overrated in the great scheme of things. Sometimes you have to roll the dice, simply because there will never be a perfect year to pick up a player at the deadline. Every year we will be saying "not this year, next year's our year." I just think it doesn't exist.
I agree. A lot of good points. I'd like the habs to make a deal to make the team stronger. But you also need to make sure that you're not just throwing assets away for a player that won't help you.

I don't know what's available out there, but it seems like the asking price for really average players is much higher than I'd like it to be.

Couturier for Clowe lol what? Just seems insane to me.

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Jamie Mcbain from Carolina is available as per Dreger.

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I just saw on TSN that Buffalo may trade Vanek if the right deal comes along.

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Is the right deal or maybe a little too right and we're overpaying?
Seems about what Buffalo would let Vanek go for but it's not a good idea for either team.

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Jamie Mcbain from Carolina is available as per Dreger.
Not somebody we should be interested in at all IMO.

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Not somebody we should be interested in at all IMO.
Me neither Just reporting the news.

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Not somebody we should be interested in at all IMO.
Anyone who is a D capable of playing 20 minutes should be considered by the Habs. That being said, I totally agree on McBain. The price might be too expensive for us to pay.


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we need another Dman alot more IMO than a forward....

we're basically using 5 Dmen....

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I'd definitely look at Mcbain if he's not too expensive. The name is worth it alone.

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I agree. A lot of good points. I'd like the habs to make a deal to make the team stronger. But you also need to make sure that you're not just throwing assets away for a player that won't help you.

I don't know what's available out there, but it seems like the asking price for really average players is much higher than I'd like it to be.

Couturier for Clowe lol what? Just seems insane to me.
Yeah i just heard the Couturier thing, ridiculous, lol.

To me another move like Halpern is probably what Bergevin is looking for. To me, you can never have enough good 3rd-4th liners for the playoffs. You saw what guys like Richardson did for LA last year. They're almost just as important as a getting a top line talent (for the playoffs). I like White, but i'm not convinced he's good enough for a deep playoff run. I would want that Nick Spaling, Trevor Lewis, Jared Boll type of player (no idea if any of these guys are available).

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04-01-2013, 11:07 AM
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I'd definitely look at Mcbain if he's not too expensive. The name is worth it alone.
From what I've seen from McBain really not what we need. He's an offensive type D who makes way too many critical errors defensively. If we get anyone, we need a depth D who just focuses on making the right play.

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Clowe has an NTC. If he allows SJ to move him, he would be probably looking to go to a team that is expected to have solid playoff run. Flyers might not even make playoffs...
Given their present position and their schedule, I don't expect the Flyers to make the playoffs. Since they'd qualify for the lottery (all 14 nonplayoff teams will be eligible this time) it would be foolish of them to trade their pick for Clowe. Neither should Bergevin give much for him because he isn't nearly good enough to put the Habs over the top. They have a mere 1 point lead over the Bruins and the Bruins have a much more favorable schedule.

If the Habs have a strong playoff run they wouldn't get another Galchenyuk with their first round pick. They might even consider trading it if a good opportunity presented itself because they'd still have a slew of second and third round picks to fall back on. They really are potential buyers this time, although they could also be sellers at the same time. The possibilities aren't endless but Bergevin would have many options.

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I just saw on TSN that Buffalo may trade Vanek if the right deal comes along.

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Is the right deal or maybe a little too right and we're overpaying?
I wouldn't give Gallagher straight up. This is a horrible idea.

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Any chance at all Buffalo would trade Regehr in division?

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