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04-01-2013, 05:22 PM
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What does that have to do with Pominville?
What good does trading a 60-70pt, decent two-way player do? How does it make this team better?? It doesn't.

I sure hope if this is the case, the oft-injured, big money LW is on the block too.

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What good does trading a 60-70pt, decent two-way player do? How does it make this team better?? It doesn't.

I sure hope if this is the case, the oft-injured, big money LW is on the block too.
Is the concept of rebuilding a team completely lost on you? What is keeping Pominville on this terrible team going to accomplish?

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What good does trading a 60-70pt, decent two-way player do? How does it make this team better?? It doesn't.

I sure hope if this is the case, the oft-injured, big money LW is on the block too.

Relieves a perennial loser team of its soft-spoken "captain" who is gone in a year anyway.

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What good does trading a 60-70pt, decent two-way player do? How does it make this team better?? It doesn't.

I sure hope if this is the case, the oft-injured, big money LW is on the block too.
What good does keeping a 60-70 point, decent two-way player do in the course of rebuilding the roster? The idea is to move on from the old. Including Pominville.

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Is the concept of rebuilding a team completely lost on you? What is keeping Pominville on this terrible team going to accomplish?
Another Darcy rebuild, where he brings in the same types of players isn't going to do any good.

It accomplishes having at least SOME scoring on this unwatchable trainwreck. If you think this year is bad, wait until next year with first line RW Tyler Toffoli or whatever he brings back.

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Another Darcy rebuild, where he brings in the same types of players isn't going to do any good.

It accomplishes having at least SOME scoring on this unwatchable trainwreck. If you think this year is bad, wait until next year with first line RW Tyler Toffoli or whatever he brings back.
Yes, because Regier hasn't changed the style of players that he targets over the past four/five years.

I'm not even going to touch your Toffoli comment.

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What good does keeping a 60-70 point, decent two-way player do in the course of rebuilding the roster? The idea is to move on from the old. Including Pominville.
Agreed. And to use your pieces to get assets that help the team down the road

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If Regehr doesn't waive his NTC to go play somewhere else for a couple measly months I'll rage



It's only Jason Pominville and the team needs to retool.
I think it's more along the lines of seeing someone like him go while some of the other players who exemplify what's wrong here stay (I'm looking at you Nancy). Say what you want about Poms (and he is clearly not having a great season), overall he's a talented player who produces consistently, isn't a diva, and almost always puts forth an effort .

He's an easy whipping boy for many because he doesn't fit the stereotypical mold of a captain that some have and he doesn't play the fan favorite hitting game etc. Some people have never gotten over him being named captain instead of Vanek. He's also an even keeled not to down not to up sort of personality and this combined with the fact that he ends up being the person giving the interviews in a crappy season means he gets more than his share of blame.

I think he's a very good player and good individual who does stuff the right way and does what he's asked to as well as he can without the sulking, etc. I also don't believe he's a great captain, but I don't think there is a player on this roster who has the makings of a great captain, though one or two might down the road.

There are far bigger problems on the roster than having Jason Pomminville on it. I think he's a valuable piece who can bring a lot going forward if he stays. He produces with whoever he is with (occasional slumps aside) can play in all situations (certainly he's better defensively than he's showed this year) and he's rarely injured.

I wouldn't be upset if he were replaced as captain and I would be damn happy to see him swapped off the point on the PP, but I'd miss a player like him more than I have most who are no longer in blue and gold.

I understand re-tooling and I'm a fan of the sweater so I'll adjust, but I definitely understand the sentiment. If they clearly get better as a result and jettison some of the other ballast, I can live with it.

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I have no problem trading players for picks. I am concerned that if we open cap space, will there be any UFAs this summer worth the money?

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04-01-2013, 05:33 PM
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If they trade Poms, I'm just going to go be a Pens fan. This franchise sucks.

good riddance....

Pom isnt nearly the player drury or briere was and youre still here. See you next season when Poms isnt on this roster.

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LeBrun reports Montreal is kicking the tires on Regehr.

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Ren Lavoie of RDS is now reporting that Pominville has been asked for his list of teams, so I'd say it's legit.


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Woah. Here we go.

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He's been asked to waive, or just list the teams?

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Yeah, so the next "core" can come in and fail too?
What's your point exactly? The current core hasn't worked out so the organization shouldn't ever try a new core of players as it's doomed to fail?

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Asked to waive or asked for list? Important distinction

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I think it's more along the lines of seeing someone like him go while some of the other players who exemplify what's wrong here stay (I'm looking at you Nancy). Say what you want about Poms (and he is clearly not having a great season), overall he's a talented player who produces consistently, isn't a diva, and almost always puts forth an effort .

He's an easy whipping boy for many because he doesn't fit the stereotypical mold of a captain that some have and he doesn't play the fan favorite hitting game etc. Some people have never gotten over him being named captain instead of Vanek. He's also an even keeled not to down not to up sort of personality and this combined with the fact that he ends up being the person giving the interviews in a crappy season means he gets more than his share of blame.

I think he's a very good player and good individual who does stuff the right way and does what he's asked to as well as he can without the sulking, etc. I also don't believe he's a great captain, but I don't think there is a player on this roster who has the makings of a great captain, though one or two might down the road.

There are far bigger problems on the roster than having Jason Pomminville on it. I think he's a valuable piece who can bring a lot going forward if he stays. He produces with whoever he is with (occasional slumps aside) can play in all situations (certainly he's better defensively than he's showed this year) and he's rarely injured.

I wouldn't be upset if he were replaced as captain and I would be damn happy to see him swapped off the point on the PP, but I'd miss a player like him more than I have most who are no longer in blue and gold.

I understand re-tooling and I'm a fan of the sweater so I'll adjust, but I definitely understand the sentiment. If they clearly get better as a result and jettison some of the other ballast, I can live with it.
My thoughts as well, but I'll add that I think trading the big three is unnecessary because a quicker re-tool can be accomplished before their production slides. At the very least, there is time to see how this deadline and summer pan out and how next season goes before having to commit another contract to them. The difference between their return now and next deadline is not going to be very much, and they may even be more attractive as pending UFAs next season since they'll demand cap space that will be hard for GMs to deal with if acquired now.

For me there's nothing personal about it, I just think other moves can be made first. If one of them are traded by Wednesday, I'll just hope that a very good return comes in the shape of top prospects that are NHL ready. I'd hate to simply get draft picks that are too much of a risk to bust.

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Another Darcy rebuild, where he brings in the same types of players isn't going to do any good.

It accomplishes having at least SOME scoring on this unwatchable trainwreck. If you think this year is bad, wait until next year with first line RW Tyler Toffoli or whatever he brings back.
I just hope it's not another crappy Darcy rebuild where the Sabres become one of the best teams in the league, because that'd suck

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My thoughts as well, but I'll add that I think trading the big three is unnecessary because a quicker re-tool can be accomplished before their production slides. At the very least, there is time to see how this deadline and summer pan out and how next season goes before having to commit another contract to them. The difference between their return now and next deadline is not going to be very much, and they may even be more attractive as pending UFAs next season since they'll demand cap space that will be hard for GMs to deal with if acquired now.

For me there's nothing personal about it, I just think other moves can be made first.
pretty much this

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Darcy Regier told Jason Pominville that with the team current situation, he needs to see what's out there. #sabres #RDS

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#sabres Jason Pominville should give tonight or Tuesday morning a list of 8 teams were he does NOT want to play. #RDS
I guess he hasn't submitted it yet

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Asked for a list of teams.
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What Lavoie is saying is that Pominville has been asked to submit his 8 team list. Lavoie seems to be saying nothing is imminent, but rather to simply explore the option of trading him, he needed the list.

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He's been asked to waive, or just list the teams?
I think just furnish the list by tomorrow morning (or presumably earlier). Pommer is now trolling the Internet to find likely destinations to put on his list.

Let's throw him off the trail. Hey, Jason, did you hear that huge rumor about you going to Phoenix? Put them on your list.

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