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04-01-2013, 05:48 PM
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Kiprusoff would instantly make the Leafs a playoff team. It's not his fault that Calgary sucks harder than my Hoover.

I'd want to see a return of something along the lines of Colborne + conditional 1st.

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I think Scrivens and a 2nd would get it done.

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"mutual understanding between the Flames and Kiprusoff that he wasn’t going to play out the 2013-14 season at $1.5 million."

So basically Kipper is basically a 1 year thing and then TOR goes back and looks for another starting Goalie Next Year...
We're not even looking for a starter right now.

Reimer is absolutely our starter without question. Kipper is insurance and assurance.

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They're not getting Iginla value for kipper.
Flames already asked for a first straight up and were refused. So obviously, the return would be less. Either a 2nd for Kipper, or a 3rd/4th plus a prospect.

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This just doesn't make any sense. Why would Nonis go after a goaltender whos stats are worse than Reimer and Scrivens this season. I understand he wants to add a vet to support Reimer but by watching a handful amount of Flames games this season and Kiprusoff play I would take my chances on Reimer in the playoffs unless Kiprusoff can magically turn it around in the remaining 13 games.

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Kipper for Bozak and Gardiner.

Get it done Feastman.

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If this happens, Vancouver's in a lot of trouble when it comes to Luongo. They won't have to worry about what they're going to get for him, they'll have to worry about whether or not they'll have to buy him out.

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Goaltending is not the problem here at the moment! Please do not give up a damn thing for Kipper, especially a 4th. I realize he is wanted for the playoff experience but I would rather deal the assets + for J-bow

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Kiprusoff would instantly make the Leafs a playoff team. It's not his fault that Calgary sucks harder than my Hoover.

I'd want to see a return of something along the lines of Colborne + conditional 1st.
Toronto is a playoff team already without Kipper.

Teams don't give up top prospects or picks for someone who is going to transition into a vet backup to Reimer.

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Interesting... but no way Toronto gives up a top 6 roster player or a 1st for a 36 y/o Kipper.

He has been awful this year, so maybe he does need a change of scenery.

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Kipper
Nemisz

Frattin + late pick
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Colbourne/Finn + 3rd
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Blacker/Percy + 2nd

Leafs bite on any of those?

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I think Scrivens and a 2nd would get it done.
I agree. Win-Win.

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"mutual understanding between the Flames and Kiprusoff that he wasn’t going to play out the 2013-14 season at $1.5 million."

So basically Kipper is basically a 1 year thing and then TOR goes back and looks for another starting Goalie Next Year...
Oh look, it's this garbage again. Come back when you have a better source than former Flames coach, Mike Keenan.

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Kiprusoff would instantly make the Leafs a playoff team. It's not his fault that Calgary sucks harder than my Hoover.

I'd want to see a return of something along the lines of Colborne + conditional 1st.
The Leafs will make the playoffs with or without Kipper.

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I don't really get the whole Nonis wants an extension thing. He can't yet to begin with. Also, he is rocking an .870 save percentage or something similar. Why wouldn't the Leafs give him this season and next and see how effective he is still is before they give an extension to a near 40-year old goaltender?

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Kipper has been basically the worst goalie in the league this year, I don't get it.

Yes he is on the flames who suck, but come on, unless it's for a late pick, makes zero sense.
Because he is not being brought in to be the de facto starter, but to provide insurance to the kids, and isn't signed for the next nine years?

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Kiprusoff has had a very good career and he really shouldn't be disrespected for it but I'm just not seeing the value he brings at this point. He's a 5.9M cap hit for next year for the team that takes him on.

His stats this year are abysmal. He was very good last year and below average the year before that. Calgary hasn't made the playoffs since 08/09.

And beyond the big run in 03/04 he hasn't won a single playoff series. His last two postseason appearances were again...BAD.

3.21 GAA and .908 SV% in 2007/2008
3.52 GAA and .884 SV% in 2008/2009

I'm just not seeing what he adds to a team at this point. Veteran mentorship is all well and good when you are replacing a somewhat useless backup but I'm just not seeing a huge problem in the play of either Scrivens or Reimer. Neither goaltender is going to carry the Leafs to a Cup this spring but that's not really the expected end point to the Leafs season this year.

The media, particularly Glen Healy like to claim that the Leafs are one of the few playoff teams with goaltending issues. Both of the Leafs goaltenders are in the top 18 for league SV%. Teams with better combined goaltending this year (as in a team not carried by 1 dominant goaltender and one hanger-on: Ottawa, Pittsburgh, and Boston. The Leafs are 8th overall in team SV%.


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Kiprusoff would instantly make the Leafs a playoff team.
The Leafs already are a playoff team.

 
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"mutual understanding between the Flames and Kiprusoff that he wasn’t going to play out the 2013-14 season at $1.5 million."

So basically Kipper is basically a 1 year thing and then TOR goes back and looks for another starting Goalie Next Year...
If Kipper is going to basically sit on the bench and help the goalies through playoffs, and then stop playing after this season-then Calgary can't ask for much-I would I think a conditional 2nd or 3rd based on if he plays next season is the most they can ask for-how do you ask much for a goalie who is calling it quits after this season?

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didnt kypreos say that kippers baby had some health issues and he wants to stay in calgary? But moving to toronto would make sense for kipper because his kid can be treated at sick kids hospital
Like Giguere? He was the savior for the Leafs.

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I feel like this + the Gillis comment about how it might be better to wait until the summer to trade Luongo is both GMs posturing at eachother.

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Kipper for Bozak and Gardiner.

Get it done Feastman.
Calgary won't get Bozak or Gardiner alone for Kipper.

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The Leafs will make the playoffs with or without Kipper.
Sorry, I meant playoff contender.

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You guys seem pretty confident in Reimer. You think he can take you through 3+ playoff rounds?

Kipper can.

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