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03-31-2013, 11:30 PM
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Did someone notice his Hitler's mustache ? I saw it in the interview after the habs practice at bell center.
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http://video.canadiens.nhl.com/video...id=DL|MTL|home

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Let's hope he is versed in appliances.

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IIRC backward skating, and maybe pivots were something Beaulieu
needed to work on coming out of the Q. I understand that he's improved
a lot during this year in Hamilton. I'm wondering if he's solved these problems,
or if they still need work?

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There is ZERO chance of either being traded , unless they are part of a large package where we end with up a solid player under contract for years at a position for need
That's what I said.

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I'm not saying beaulieu is letang, but don't his mannerisms on the ice sort of remind you of him?
He's got some similar qualities, but let's keep in mind that the upside for Beaulieu is as a secondary offensive D-man. A 30-40 points/year PP guy, who struggles some 5 on 5 and deosn't play the PK.

That's perfectly fine though, especially with Subban in the fold.

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He's got some similar qualities, but let's keep in mind that the upside for Beaulieu is as a secondary offensive D-man. A 30-40 points/year PP guy, who struggles some 5 on 5 and deosn't play the PK.

That's perfectly fine though, especially with Subban in the fold.
I wouldn't say that's the upside for Beaulieu, but the realistic projection.

Sorry for arguing semantics, but Beaulieu has a lot of potential and that's hardly the best case scenario for him. Compared to a high like Tinordi he's higher risk and higher reward.

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He's got some similar qualities, but let's keep in mind that the upside for Beaulieu is as a secondary offensive D-man. A 30-40 points/year PP guy, who struggles some 5 on 5 and deosn't play the PK.

That's perfectly fine though, especially with Subban in the fold.
Whoa!

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The upside for Beaulieu is virtually unlimited. He may not hit it, I understand that, but based on his skating and vision and height/frame, he is a potential Larry Robinson.

Robinson too was skinny and not strong on his skates and needing of defensive positioning skills when he was taken in the SECOND ROUND of the 1971 draft, but he hit his potential.

If Beaulieu falls SHORT of his potential, he may still be a 30-40 pts guy with limited defensive value, but that is definitely not the best he could turn out to be.

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I was at the game on saturday and Beaulieu needs to learn to skate! He skate on de bottine!

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Beaulieu needs to improve his defensive awareness. I think he will be another MDZ (at the low end).

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Whoa!

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The upside for Beaulieu is virtually unlimited. He may not hit it, I understand that, but based on his skating and vision and height/frame, he is a potential Larry Robinson.

Robinson too was skinny and not strong on his skates and needing of defensive positioning skills when he was taken in the SECOND ROUND of the 1971 draft, but he hit his potential.

If Beaulieu falls SHORT of his potential, he may still be a 30-40 pts guy with limited defensive value, but that is definitely not the best he could turn out to be.
I am online with this, Letang was not seen to have this ceiling either. IMO he will turn into a mix a Vlacic and Letang which is great for us... He has until Markov is done to be ready for big minutes and from the looks of it Suban will have already became a top 10 D in the league by then ... (probably is today).

Emelin, Suban
Beaulieu, Gorges
Tinnordi, Diaz

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Whoa!

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The upside for Beaulieu is virtually unlimited. He may not hit it, I understand that, but based on his skating and vision and height/frame, he is a potential Larry Robinson.

Robinson too was skinny and not strong on his skates and needing of defensive positioning skills when he was taken in the SECOND ROUND of the 1971 draft, but he hit his potential.

If Beaulieu falls SHORT of his potential, he may still be a 30-40 pts guy with limited defensive value, but that is definitely not the best he could turn out to be.
Please. God. No.


Firstly, talking "frame" Larry Robinson was 6'4" in an age where guys were shorter, probably equivalent to a 6'6" guy these days. Beaulieu is 6'1"-6'2" which is average height for a defenseman.

Bouwmeester had Larry Robinson potential. Tyler Myers had Larry Robinson potential.

Beaulieu is not on that level or prospect, those guys were elite prospects at one point, and neither of those guys hit their potential (yet at least) either. I'm talking realistic potential, don't start with a semantical debate on the definition of that. I could, theoretically, become Prime Minister. But that aint gonna happen. If everything works out, Beaulieu will be a nice secondary offensive d-man with 40 points a year or in his prime. Nothing wrong with that. But anyone who thinks he can sniff Larry Robinson, or even a PK Subban, is completely out to lunch.

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Beaulieu needs to improve his defensive awareness. I think he will be another MDZ (at the low end).
Low end? I'd be thrilled if he can become as good as MDZ.

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Please. God. No.


Firstly, talking "frame" Larry Robinson was 6'4" in an age where guys were shorter, probably equivalent to a 6'6" guy these days. Beaulieu is 6'1"-6'2" which is average height for a defenseman.

Bouwmeester had Larry Robinson potential. Tyler Myers had Larry Robinson potential.

Beaulieu is not on that level or prospect, those guys were elite prospects at one point, and neither of those guys hit their potential (yet at least) either. I'm talking realistic potential, don't start with a semantical debate on the definition of that. I could, theoretically, become Prime Minister. But that aint gonna happen. If everything works out, Beaulieu will be a nice secondary offensive d-man with 40 points a year or in his prime. Nothing wrong with that. But anyone who thinks he can sniff Larry Robinson, or even a PK Subban, is completely out to lunch.
hockeydb.com has Beaulieu and Robinson as both 6'3".

People forget how raw Robinson looked his first 2-3 years. Nobody thought he could put it all together like he did, but he did.

Maybe Nathan won'T. Probably Nathan won't. But it is simply not true that the BEST he can do is be a 30-40 point defenceman that you are afraid to play ES or on PK, as that poster said.

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hockeydb.com has Beaulieu and Robinson as both 6'3".

People forget how raw Robinson looked his first 2-3 years. Nobody thought he could put it all together like he did, but he did.

Maybe Nathan won'T. Probably Nathan won't. But it is simply not true that the BEST he can do is be a 30-40 point defenceman that you are afraid to play ES or on PK, as that poster said.
Yeah but Big Bird is EASILY one of the top ten defencemen to ever play the sport.

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hockeydb.com has Beaulieu and Robinson as both 6'3".

People forget how raw Robinson looked his first 2-3 years. Nobody thought he could put it all together like he did, but he did.

Maybe Nathan won'T. Probably Nathan won't. But it is simply not true that the BEST he can do is be a 30-40 point defenceman that you are afraid to play ES or on PK, as that poster said.
By this thinking pretty much every first rounder had hall of fame upside.

Sorry, I prefer to look at realistic ceiling....

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Low end? I'd be thrilled if he can become as good as MDZ.
I really think Beaulieu has good potential offensively.

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I'm surprised at how tall he is. He can really fill out. Looked half decent out there. Should be a dandy.

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By this thinking pretty much every first rounder had hall of fame upside.

Sorry, I prefer to look at realistic ceiling....
OK, I think he has a 20-25% chance to be a 50-60 point player and #1-2 defenceman, depending on the team.

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I think he has at least a 60% chance of being at least a 50% of a 100% defenseman, most likely 75% of the time once he gives 110% and his coach focusses on addressing the 25% of him that needs to be fine tuned. I'm going to remain 100% optimistic on that.

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I think he has at least a 60% chance of being at least a 50% of a 100% defenseman, most likely 75% of the time once he gives 110% and his coach focusses on addressing the 25% of him that needs to be fine tuned. I'm going to remain 100% optimistic on that.
I barely understood 50% of this post.

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hockeydb.com has Beaulieu and Robinson as both 6'3".

People forget how raw Robinson looked his first 2-3 years. Nobody thought he could put it all together like he did, but he did.

Maybe Nathan won'T. Probably Nathan won't. But it is simply not true that the BEST he can do is be a 30-40 point defenceman that you are afraid to play ES or on PK, as that poster said.
I think he can be as good as Brian Campbell. His offensive instincts are that good. We will just need to pair him with a very defensively responsible dman

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I understood like 10% of the post.

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I think he can be as good as Brian Campbell. His offensive instincts are that good. We will just need to pair him with a very defensively responsible dman
If things go well and he can stay healthy, I see him as a (Healthy) Joe Corvo.

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