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04-01-2013, 09:16 PM
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Anyone watching that game against UCLA knew something was up...ruined my Vegas trip.

Pac-12 head of officials investigated for targeting Arizona's Sean Miller

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...as-sean-miller

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04-01-2013, 10:19 PM
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Something seemed stranged with the way the refs were calling that game but I didn't make a big stink about it seeing that I didn't want to lead into any crazy ideas. However, this is huge if any of this is true.

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Any soccer fans in this forum? FC Phoenix just began their inaugural season in the USL (a step below MLS) and beat Tampa in their first home game on Saturday. They play at the ASU soccer stadium (on University in Tempe) ... tickets were $18 (standing room) and I was pretty impressed with the crowd (near capacity, lots of energy in the supporters section).

Next home game is Sunday the 7th against Orlando ... anyone planning on going?

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Any soccer fans in this forum? FC Phoenix just began their inaugural season in the USL (a step below MLS) and beat Tampa in their first home game on Saturday. They play at the ASU soccer stadium (on University in Tempe) ... tickets were $18 (standing room) and I was pretty impressed with the crowd (near capacity, lots of energy in the supporters section).

Next home game is Sunday the 7th against Orlando ... anyone planning on going?
I never even heard of this team or this league actually.

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04-01-2013, 10:52 PM
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http://us.soccerway.com/teams/united...oenix/matches/
http://www.phoenixfc.com

Search for "American Outlaws Phoenix" or "La Furia Roja" on Facebook to get a hold of the local soccer supporters club, or just be at the Devils Advocate bar in Tempe a couple hours prior to kickoff.

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I heard about them. I never watch soccer but after buying the Yotes, buying an expansion MLS team would be my next choice. Easy Money

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04-01-2013, 10:57 PM
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Phoenix should have an MLS team, and they should play at the Cardinals stadium. Zero excuses for this to have not happened already. The hockey equivalent of Toronto not having a team.

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04-01-2013, 11:06 PM
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I think it comes in steps. The US had a big soccer league in the 1970's (the NASL), and some of the world's best players came over here for a few years of retirement pay (Pele, Beckenbauer, Cruijff, Best, Carlos Alberto) ... the MLS is hell-bent on not repeating the financial mistakes the NASL made, so they've been cautious and deliberate about expansion. The last few years, Seattle, Portland, Philly, Vancouver and Montreal have all been added to the league after demonstrating that a significant fanbase exists and after committing/making some sort of plans to fund a soccer-specific stadium.

I have no idea what the details of using ASU's stadium are, but regularly putting thousands of butts in seats is a step in the right direction. Summer weather (MLS, unlike most world soccer leagues, plays March-November) is a problem, but a domed stadium would be a way around 9pm July starts. Cardinal Stadium is waaaaaaay bigger than necessary for MLS, but crowds of 5,000 should be easy for the Valley.

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Phoenix should have an MLS team, and they should play at the Cardinals stadium. Zero excuses for this to have not happened already. The hockey equivalent of Toronto not having a team.
Toronto and Hockey is more like Mexico City and Futbol. Phoenix and Futbol is more like Buffalo and Hockey. Maybe even more like Columbus and Hockey.

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Dbacks doing their part to keep the opening day streak alive. Owner can jump in a lake but the team is cool.

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04-02-2013, 12:33 AM
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UofP Stadium is fine for soccer and only half of the stadium would be needed for MLS games. One of the reasons why I hear MLS has yet to come here is this: Along with the lack of a grassroots movement is because even though soccer is big among the demographics here, the MLS is not well liked.

I'll be the 1st to say though if the Coyotes do go and a MLS team does come to AZ that team will be the one I follow more than any of the other pro teams here.

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I'll be the 1st to say though if the Coyotes do go and a MLS team does come to AZ that team will be the one I follow more than any of the other pro teams here.
I will be pissed if and when the Coyotes leave, but trading them for an MLS team would be a fantastic silver medal. I'd be happy to trade the Cardinals, Suns and D'Backs for an MLS team. Heck, I'd take a personal day from work to help re-paint the grass at either UoP or Chase for soccer ...

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Really? I'm surprised by the level of interest in soccer on this board. Coming from a soccer-crazy country, that sport is pretty much the opposite of hockey. Scoreless games, constant diving, frustrating reffing... just sooooooooooooo boring.

On top of all that, MLS skill level is to international soccer what the WHL is to the NHL. I mean, how can you pay good players to play here with 18 home games in a season with less than 10,000 fans attending?

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04-02-2013, 05:31 AM
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Really? I'm surprised by the level of interest in soccer on this board. Coming from a soccer-crazy country, that sport is pretty much the opposite of hockey. Scoreless games, constant diving, frustrating reffing... just sooooooooooooo boring.

On top of all that, MLS skill level is to international soccer what the WHL is to the NHL. I mean, how can you pay good players to play here with 18 home games in a season with less than 10,000 fans attending?
Opposite of hockey? Soccer and hockey both flow, as does basketball to a lesser extent. In baseball, two players interact for a half-second, then the whole game stops for 10-15 seconds, then the same two players interact for a half-second. Occasionally others are involved. In football, highly specialized players line up in precisely choreographed formations and do very unique things for 4 or 5 seconds, then stop for 30 to plan out the next play. Soccer and hockey require everybody be able to do everything (play the ball, defend, attack, move in space) and requires everybody think for themselves and improvise a bit. Soooooo much more enjoyable to watch.

MLS attendance most years hovers between 17,000 and 18,000, which puts the league on par with France and Belgium, ahead of Brazil and Argentina. MLS struggles in terms of market share, because it's still a small fish in a market of 380m in North America, but fans show up to games in a big, big way.

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And back on topic of all Arizona related sports, the OT Soccer enjoyment convo can be continued here: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...307381&page=20

Top-five prospect Aaron Gordon announces for Arizona

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...es-for-arizona

Going to need a lot of ref conspiracies to keep this team down.


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04-02-2013, 01:52 PM
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/91...rdinals-source

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Quarterback Carson Palmer has been traded from the Oakland Raiders to the Arizona Cardinals for a conditional seventh-round pick in the 2014 draft, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.
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04-02-2013, 01:55 PM
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Palmer will get sacked in the first game and require season ending surgery.

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This is what I dont get:

Kevin Kolb- was due to make $11 million this year at age 28 with the following stats:
2011-81.1 QB Rating
2012-86.1 QB rating
So they cut him.

They bring in Carson Palmer at age 33 with the following stats:
2011-80.5 QB Rating
2012-85.3 QB Rating
And he gets $10 million a year with the Cardinals.

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Mark my words, Palmer will be the best Quarterback the Cards have had since Warner.

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Mark my words, Palmer will be the best Quarterback the Cards have had since Warner.
Not much bravery involved in that declaration.

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Not much bravery involved in that declaration.
Dammit, you caught on...

I still firmly believe that we should target Geno Smith in the draft, he should and probably will be available at the seventh overall pick

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The Cardinals are going way out of their way to avoid being linked to Geno Smith. Every chance they get, they poo poo the idea of taking a QB at 7. Didn't send reps to his workouts. Which means, of course, that they desperately want him. I'm okay with it, but if Eric Fisher falls that's really the better pick. Or trading down for Warmack/Cooper.

I'm not convinced in the slightest that the Cardinals can make the playoffs with as strong as the division is going to be this year. Even with a great year from personnel, you're still facing a murderous schedule. Get an average or sub par year from a few guys and you are picking top 5 again. Which wouldn't be a bad thing, considering that 2014 will have an absurd amount of QB talent.

Fitz needs to escape while he can still perform.

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Lol...Dbacks pushed to the hated FSN+ for the Suns tomorrow

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A long overdue congrats on picking up Prado and signing him long term. While I love the trade and getting Upton, Prado is sorely missed in Atlanta. Dude plays every position on the left side (3rd, SS, LF) and never complained being moved all over the place while batting .300. Great in the clubhouse too. Upton is a beast and our outfield is great, but Prado is a great piece to have.

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A long overdue congrats on picking up Prado and signing him long term. While I love the trade and getting Upton, Prado is sorely missed in Atlanta. Dude plays every position on the left side (3rd, SS, LF) and never complained being moved all over the place while batting .300. Great in the clubhouse too. Upton is a beast and our outfield is great, but Prado is a great piece to have.
Yeah, Prado is great and there certainly are not a lot of better value guys at the 3B position. But I'm still quite annoyed about the Upton trade. The organization trashed Upton in the media, made a dedicated to the franchise guy actually want to leave, tanked his value, then traded him at his absolute lowest value possible. BRILLIANT move Mr. Towers. Brilliant.


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