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04-02-2013, 10:09 AM
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Courtierer, Read, Laughton for Burns, Clowe, 2nd

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Burns isn't happening.

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Brodeur has more goals than Clowe. Burns is always hurt and a 2nd... meh.

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Not even worth getting into. That is an EXTREMELY valuable package you suggested coming from the Flyers. Awful.

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Burns is untouchable.

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Burns isn't happening.

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Hypothetically speaking value wise? Cus at the end of the day this is just a hypothetical proposal and neither of us work as a GM for these teams.

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Hypothetically speaking value wise? Cus at the end of the day this is just a hypothetical proposal and neither of us work as a GM for these teams.
Sharks would need a top end defenseman in some capacity to even consider as Burns is our #1 guy going forward. If we didn't need that then it would be fine but that's not going to be the case now when this deal would have to be done.

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Courtierer, Read, Laughton for Burns, Clowe, 2nd
Read for Clowe (UFA) + 2nd is fair value.

The remainder is pretty bad for the Flyers.

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A big no on this one. Our guys are worth more than you are offering.

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Courtierer, Read, Laughton for Burns, Clowe, 2nd
Definitely no from Flyers. It seems more like Couturier, Read, Laughton for Burns alone because Clowe + 2nd is not even close to Read + Laughton.

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Couturier + Gustafsson for Burns + Irwin

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Definitely no from Flyers. It seems more like Couturier, Read, Laughton for Burns alone because Clowe + 2nd is not even close to Read + Laughton.

I have better proposal:

Couturier + Gustafsson for Burns + Irwin
Somebody help! Somehow the space time continuum changed where I am stuck in a world where 2 top 4 defenseman are worth 2 forwards who don't even score 30 goals.

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Definitely no from Flyers. It seems more like Couturier, Read, Laughton for Burns alone because Clowe + 2nd is not even close to Read + Laughton.

I have better proposal:

Couturier + Gustafsson for Burns + Irwin
How do you propose we replace Burns?

We are not trading Burns unless it involves another young #1 d-man coming back. Good luck with that.

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Somebody help! Somehow the space time continuum changed where I am stuck in a world where 2 top 4 defenseman are worth 2 forwards who don't even score 30 goals.
What are you talking about? First of all Gustafsson is not forward. Irwin is really not top 4 defenseman right now, maybe in SJ.
Do you expect from a 19 (now 20) yo to score 30 goals in rookie season? Couturier is phenomenal shutdown center, great on PK, with nice offensive potential and stick handling. In his 19 he was able to shutdown Malkin in play-offs. I'm not afraid to say something like Patrice Bergeron. He can play 2nd line center already now without a problem. He's having bad season offensively like a lot of rookies in their 2nd season but it is also because Laviolette is playing him on 3rd or even 4th line with 10-13 minutes per game...

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How do you propose we replace Burns?

We are not trading Burns unless it involves another young #1 d-man coming back. Good luck with that.
I don't know about you but I know how we replace Couturier. I involved young defenseman, Gustafsson but of course he's not close to be 1st, 2nd or 3rd d-man right now but he's very talented and already showed his potential. I think in few years he will make impact.

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Courtierer, Read, Laughton for Burns, Clowe, 2nd
That's a package that should almost certainly acquire a young number one Dman, and what is coming from the Sharks there is not remotely close.

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Laughton is the only reason couturier COULD be traded. No way we move both of them. This deal makes us a worse team.

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