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04-02-2013, 01:09 PM
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Kiprusoff for Grant Rollheiser and Juraj Mikus and a 2nd round pick
Sure, why not.

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who doesn't?

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Sure, why not.
We don't even own the rights' of Rollheiser anymore lol.

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then maybe Calgary should put Kiprusoff in a better position, not trade him.

Especially since Kiprusoff told himself he would not report to another team, the risk that he will be not be focused with a new team is high.

To be honest i think Toronto have zero interest in Kiprusoff, they just bluff an interest to use it as leverage to acquire another goalie.
They're trying to - by trading him to another team.

He's never said that he wouldn't report; that is BS. He only asked that he be consulted prior to a trade.

I assume the "other goalie" you refer to is Luongo? Didn't he refuse to waive for Toronto?

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I would actually take that. With Kippers play, and this weird trade market, a 2013 2nd would be nice.
Kipper's time is done with the Flames. The Flames also have enough goalie prospects now to start a pretty good battle for playing time on the big club.

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They're trying to - by trading him to another team.

He's never said that he wouldn't report; that is BS. He only asked that he be consulted prior to a trade.

I assume the "other goalie" you refer to is Luongo? Didn't he refuse to waive for Toronto?
Yes from reports he did refuse.

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All you donkeys saying that we should stick with a goalie tandem with exactly ZERO combined play-off experience just because "we're not winning the cup this year" demonstrate exactly why you're (thankfully) not NHL GMs, and why the one guy in all of Toronto it seems who wants Kipper actually is. Our goal should not just be to make the playoffs; our goal should be to win the Stanley Cup. Seriously, the first smell of playoffs in this city in 8 years and everyone's like, "Well, that was good. Better focus on next year now." Once you're in, anything can happen! 8th seeded Kings, anyone?

Have some damn faith that this team can do some damage in the playoffs. I'm so sick of this losing attitude in Toronto. Be a real fan and support your effing team.

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We don't even own the rights' of Rollheiser anymore lol.
Yea, but Feaster might not know that

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All you donkeys saying that we should stick with a goalie tandem with exactly ZERO combined play-off experience just because "we're not winning the cup this year" demonstrate exactly why you're (thankfully) not NHL GMs, and why the one guy in all of Toronto it seems who wants Kipper actually is. Our goal should not just be to make the playoffs; our goal should be to win the Stanley Cup. Seriously, the firsts smell of playoffs in this city in 8 years and everyone's like, "Well, that was good. Better focus on next year now." Once you're in, anything can happen! 8th seeded Kings, anyone?

Have some ******* faith that this team can do some damage in the playoffs. I'm so sick of this losing attitude in Toronto. Be a real fan and support your effing team.
Relax. People are just being realistic. The odds of the Leafs going more than 2 rounds are pretty long. There's no point in giving up valuable assets now. The team is on the right path and just needs to develop a bit more.

If the Leafs can add some veteran depth for cheap that's fine. But they'd better not trade anything of substance for veteran rentals in the hopes those vets will bring them the Cup this year.

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All you donkeys saying that we should stick with a goalie tandem with exactly ZERO combined play-off experience just because "we're not winning the cup this year" demonstrate exactly why you're (thankfully) not NHL GMs, and why the one guy in all of Toronto it seems who wants Kipper actually is. Our goal should not just be to make the playoffs; our goal should be to win the Stanley Cup. Seriously, the first smell of playoffs in this city in 8 years and everyone's like, "Well, that was good. Better focus on next year now." Once you're in, anything can happen! 8th seeded Kings, anyone?

Have some damn faith that this team can do some damage in the playoffs. I'm so sick of this losing attitude in Toronto. Be a real fan and support your effing team.
There's having faith and there is cheering for the Leafs. Lets be serious. The Kings are a completely different example from last year. I like to think of myself as an optimist, but I am also a realist. And reality is we are not winning the cup with or without Kipper this season.

EDIT: However, I will eat my hat if the Leafs win the cup.

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All you donkeys saying that we should stick with a goalie tandem with exactly ZERO combined play-off experience just because "we're not winning the cup this year" demonstrate exactly why you're (thankfully) not NHL GMs, and why the one guy in all of Toronto it seems who wants Kipper actually is. Our goal should not just be to make the playoffs; our goal should be to win the Stanley Cup. Seriously, the firsts smell of playoffs in this city in 8 years and everyone's like, "Well, that was good. Better focus on next year now." Once you're in, anything can happen! 8th seeded Kings, anyone?

Have some ******* faith that this team can do some damage in the playoffs. I'm so sick of this losing attitude in Toronto. Be a real fan and support your effing team.
"Well, we're unlikely to win the Cup, so we may as well not even try to make any noise in the playoffs, resign ourselves to defeat in the first round and call it a year."

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There's having faith and there is cheering for the Leafs. Lets be serious. The Kings are a completely different example from last year. I like to think of myself as an optimist, but I am also a realist. And reality is we are not winning the cup with or without Kipper this season.

EDIT: However, I will eat my hat if the Leafs win the cup.
Don't hog that crystal ball.

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What would the asking price be for Jose Theodore instead? He's a UFA at the end of the season, so he could be had for cheaper... Playoff wise, he's played the same amount as Kipper, and they both have similar numbers.

Personally, i'd rather Theodore than Kipper.. especially if we play Montreal!!

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What would the asking price be for Jose Theodore instead? He's a UFA at the end of the season, so he could be had for cheaper... Playoff wise, he's played the same amount as Kipper, and they both have similar numbers.

Personally, i'd rather Theodore than Kipper.. especially if we play Montreal!!
You do know that Theodore is awful at Bell Center and ask to not be the starter at the Bell Center right?

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All you donkeys saying that we should stick with a goalie tandem with exactly ZERO combined play-off experience just because "we're not winning the cup this year" demonstrate exactly why you're (thankfully) not NHL GMs, and why the one guy in all of Toronto it seems who wants Kipper actually is. Our goal should not just be to make the playoffs; our goal should be to win the Stanley Cup. Seriously, the first smell of playoffs in this city in 8 years and everyone's like, "Well, that was good. Better focus on next year now." Once you're in, anything can happen! 8th seeded Kings, anyone?

Have some damn faith that this team can do some damage in the playoffs. I'm so sick of this losing attitude in Toronto. Be a real fan and support your effing team.
LA let Quick play in the playoffs and gain experience before they won last year. Just saying.

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If ownership thinks they can make the second round of playoffs this year by adding 1 or 2 small pieces i think they go for it. They can make a lot of money from those extra few games during playoffs.

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You do know that Theodore is awful at Bell Center and ask to not be the starter at the Bell Center right?
Insert Reimer.

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All you donkeys saying that we should stick with a goalie tandem with exactly ZERO combined play-off experience just because "we're not winning the cup this year" demonstrate exactly why you're (thankfully) not NHL GMs, and why the one guy in all of Toronto it seems who wants Kipper actually is. Our goal should not just be to make the playoffs; our goal should be to win the Stanley Cup. Seriously, the first smell of playoffs in this city in 8 years and everyone's like, "Well, that was good. Better focus on next year now." Once you're in, anything can happen! 8th seeded Kings, anyone?

Have some damn faith that this team can do some damage in the playoffs. I'm so sick of this losing attitude in Toronto. Be a real fan and support your effing team.
what are you going on about...first your complaining about the fans being conservative and then complaining they're not supporting the team. Having a bad day it seems..in any case everyone is saying that Reimer doesn't have any experience. HOW THE HELL DO YOU GET EXPERIENCE??? YOU PLAY!!! Reimer needs to freakin play if we all want him to get experience. Give your head a shake.

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What would the asking price be for Jose Theodore instead? He's a UFA at the end of the season, so he could be had for cheaper... Playoff wise, he's played the same amount as Kipper, and they both have similar numbers.

Personally, i'd rather Theodore than Kipper.. especially if we play Montreal!!
Haha that'd be perfect for us Habs fans! Theo is more of chocker than a savior.

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Haha that'd be perfect for us Habs fans! Theo is more of chocker than a savior.
Well then nevermind

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There's having faith and there is cheering for the Leafs. Lets be serious. The Kings are a completely different example from last year. I like to think of myself as an optimist, but I am also a realist. And reality is we are not winning the cup with or without Kipper this season.

EDIT: However, I will eat my hat if the Leafs win the cup.
I don't think he's disputing the likelihood of the Leafs winning the Cup so much as taking issue with the fatalistic attitude so many Leafs fans seem to have towards the playoffs, as if expending any assets whatsoever - even mid-round picks/B prospects - to try to improve our team and potentially make a little noise is a complete and utter waste.

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what are you going on about...first your complaining about the fans being conservative and then complaining they're not supporting the team. Having a bad day it seems..in any case everyone is saying that Reimer doesn't have any experience. HOW THE HELL DO YOU GET EXPERIENCE??? YOU PLAY!!! Reimer needs to freakin play if we all want him to get experience. Give your head a shake.
In Nonis' recent interviews, he's spoken primarily about 'insurance' in goal. In other words, someone to step in in the unfortunate case that Reimer gets hurt, or plays poorly - not someone to take over the starting role. If a stabilizing veteran presence could be added for a reasonable price, why not? You're very, very likely to get more out of adding a couple savvy veterans to a young team for a playoff run than you are out of a third-round pick or whatever. But people are so adamant that you hang onto them out of this paranoia that we're going to miss out on some diamond in the rough like Milan Lucic, Shea Weber, etc., and it's going to haunt us for years.

With the luck the Leafs have had over the past couple of decades, particularly with the draft, it's tough to blame anyone for that paranoia.... but you have to put things in perspective, like. It's not all about hoarding picks and waiting/hoping to hit the jackpot. That very well may never happen, especially when we're talking about 2nds/3rds/4ths.


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Even better! We won't waste a contract signing a marginal prospect.

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what are you going on about...first your complaining about the fans being conservative and then complaining they're not supporting the team. Having a bad day it seems..in any case everyone is saying that Reimer doesn't have any experience. HOW THE HELL DO YOU GET EXPERIENCE??? YOU PLAY!!! Reimer needs to freakin play if we all want him to get experience. Give your head a shake.
Give YOUR head a shake because you obviously don't pay attention. Kipper won't be coming in to steal Reimer's job. Guaranteed Reimer starts with or without Kipper. Kipper is about insurance in the playoffs.

Go ahead, make some more statements without knowing the facts. Please, for humour.

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I don't think he's disputing the likelihood of the Leafs winning the Cup so much as taking issue with the fatalistic attitude so many Leafs fans seem to have towards the playoffs, as if expending any assets whatsoever - even mid-round picks/B prospects - to try to improve our team and potentially make a little noise is a complete and utter waste.


In Nonis' recent interviews, he's spoken primarily about 'insurance' in goal. In other words, someone to step in in the unfortunate case that Reimer gets hurt, or plays poorly - not someone to take over the starting role. If a stabilizing veteran presence could be added for a reasonable price, why not? You're very, very likely to get more out of adding a couple savvy veterans to a young team for a playoff run than you are out of a third-round pick or whatever. But people are so adamant that you hang onto them out of this paranoia that we're going to miss out on some diamond in the rough like Milan Lucic, Shea Weber, etc.
Right on.

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Give YOUR head a shake because you obviously don't pay attention. Kipper won't be coming in to steal Reimer's job. Guaranteed Reimer starts with or without Kipper. Kipper is about insurance in the playoffs.

Go ahead, make some more statements without knowing the facts. Please, for humour.
I agree. I think he is there to be a veteran backup. Help Reimer if he gets in trouble.

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