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08-14-2006, 11:07 AM
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New Rankings???

I have a question about the new rankings and depth chart:

What happened to Mike Smith, he is not in either one??? Did he get traded or sign with another team??? What is the word???

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He's 24 and not considered a prospect anymore by HF standards.

Ellis would still be on there because he was a college player.

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How could Tobias be rated higher than Ellis when he hasn't even played on North American ice???

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How could Tobias be rated higher than Ellis when he hasn't even played on North American ice???
The same thing could've been said not long ago about Lehtonen, Nittymaki, Lundqvist .... maybe because their scouts actually can assess ability.

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Because he carried the Swiss to a silver medal in the U-18s in 2001. He also was having a fantastic season two years ago before he was injured. Stephan has more potential.

Stephan playing in Europe doesn't make Ellis a better prospect even though Ellis will probably be the more successful goaltender this year. If Ellis and Stephan end up in Iowa, Ellis likely will be the starter to begin as Stephan will have to adjust to the different angles and playing style. If Stephan proves he can't adjust, then he'll go down as a wasted pick and fall down the depth chart.

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If you want to compare past performances instead of overall ability, experience and potential then you can go back to the 03-04 season when Ellis led the Idaho Steelheads to a National Championship and was MVP of the playoffs. Every prospect is a gamble but you have to see if they can "go" with a team when given the chance. Ellis has proven that he can do that over and over in the USHL, ECHL, AHL and the NHL. He is the diamond in the rough.

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He's also 26. He's not going to get much better.

I personally think that Stephan's achievement is just as impressive as Ellis's, and it happened at a much younger age. He led a pretty overmatched squad to the gold medal game against Russia. Switzerland has never been considered remotely a hockey power even though their junior teams do better than other national teams.

Stephan has the potential to be better, but potential means squat a lot of the time.

Players should never be given a chance. They should earn it, just like Jokinen did last year. If Ellis is the best goaltender in camp, he'll be the backup. It's that simple.

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He's also 26. He's not going to get much better.

I personally think that Stephan's achievement is just as impressive as Ellis's, and it happened at a much younger age. He led a pretty overmatched squad to the gold medal game against Russia. Switzerland has never been considered remotely a hockey power even though their junior teams do better than other national teams.

Stephan has the potential to be better, but potential means squat a lot of the time.

Players should never be given a chance. They should earn it, just like Jokinen did last year. If Ellis is the best goaltender in camp, he'll be the backup. It's that simple.
Completely Agree...Two guys that really stand out in that case would have to be Brendan Morrow and Pat Verbeek

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