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04-01-2013, 08:47 PM
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Gaborik is moving his feet more, but his shot still seems a bit weak compared to year's past. I still think the system and the move to LW get way too much ink when its his shoulder surgery that seems like the main culprit thats robbed him off his lethalness

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04-01-2013, 08:52 PM
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guess who has the most GWG since joining the Rangers?
You do realize that if you score a goal to put your team up 4-0 and the other team gets 3, that you have scored the winning goal.

I posted a couple of jumps up that Callahan is far better than Gaborik. Agree or disagree?

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04-01-2013, 08:54 PM
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So we didnt need his 3 goals against Boston?

What about his OT winner vs the isles?

How about the triple OT winner last year?

Nope. He never scores big goals. Never.

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04-01-2013, 09:20 PM
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he played a great game tonight...it seems like Richards play is directly attributable to Gaboriks play this season...when Richards is going (i thought he was terrific tonight) then Gabby starts going too.

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he played a great game tonight...it seems like Richards play is directly attributable to Gaboriks play this season...when Richards is going (i thought he was terrific tonight) then Gabby starts going too.
His job is to score goals, so how can he play a great game if he doesn't score a goal?

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04-01-2013, 10:17 PM
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As far as Gabs go, I'm pretty comfortable saying that with Nash here now slated as the pure goalscorer on this team, I'm ok with trading Gabs, especially to re-build some depth on this team.

Wanted Corey Perry in a deal for Gabs+(+) but that's no longer an option.

I would have even done Gabs and Kreider at the time straight up for Perry. Seems harsh but in the overall sense if a deal is done you could live with it, but I'm more comfortable holding onto Kreider and moving Gaborik in the off season.

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04-01-2013, 11:10 PM
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04-01-2013, 11:15 PM
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he played a great game tonight...it seems like Richards play is directly attributable to Gaboriks play this season...when Richards is going (i thought he was terrific tonight) then Gabby starts going too.
I actually thought it was more that Richards wasn't trying to do too much with it and Gabby SKATED hard to get into the offensive zone instead of trying to glide and use his explosive step to surprise people like he usually does.

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04-02-2013, 01:08 AM
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Gaborik is moving his feet more, but his shot still seems a bit weak compared to year's past. I still think the system and the move to LW get way too much ink when its his shoulder surgery that seems like the main culprit thats robbed him off his lethalness
That's been the case throughout his whole career. If he's not playing well it's an injury.

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04-02-2013, 02:04 AM
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That's been the case throughout his whole career. If he's not playing well it's an injury.
Right because we all know Gaborik is the only player in the world who is immune from playing poorly when healthy!


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Right because we all know Gaborik is the only player in the world who is immune from playing poorly when healthy!

That's certainly been the case while he's been a Ranger. Amazing in 09-10 and 11-12. Bad in 10-11 and last years playoffs while injured. He doesn't look like he's healthy.

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04-02-2013, 12:52 PM
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We landed Redden instead of Chara and Gab instead of Kovie. Cost us at least a cup imo. Picked Drury over Jagr too
The year we signed Redden, he was at least our third or fourth choice. I think Sather definitely paniced when he couldn't get Chara, or Campbell, or any of the other available defensmen he coveted.

Kovie still has no stanley cup. And in 2011-12 Gaborik and Kovie's stats are pretty similar. The playoffs there's a dip, but Gaborik's shoulder was torn up.

In case you forgot, Jagr bailed for Russia and wasn't even all that great in Russia. It was never choosing Drury over Jagr. We offered Jagr a contract. He was too bigheaded to not be the highest paid member of the Rangers, remember? It also didn't help that the only Rangers center he could manage to do anything with was Dubinsky. His inability to adjust the slightest bit to work with Drury or Gomez was infuriating.

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04-02-2013, 02:30 PM
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The year we signed Redden, he was at least our third or fourth choice. I think Sather definitely paniced when he couldn't get Chara, or Campbell, or any of the other available defensmen he coveted.

Kovie still has no stanley cup. And in 2011-12 Gaborik and Kovie's stats are pretty similar. The playoffs there's a dip, but Gaborik's shoulder was torn up.

In case you forgot, Jagr bailed for Russia and wasn't even all that great in Russia. It was never choosing Drury over Jagr. We offered Jagr a contract. He was too bigheaded to not be the highest paid member of the Rangers, remember? It also didn't help that the only Rangers center he could manage to do anything with was Dubinsky. His inability to adjust the slightest bit to work with Drury or Gomez was infuriating.
Man, that offseason if we had just resigned Nylander instead of signing Gomez, signed Chara instead of Redden, and signed Chris Drury we would've had:

Straka-Nylander-Jagr
Shanahan-Drury-Avery
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04-02-2013, 02:57 PM
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You're crazy if you don't think adding a top-4, right-handed defenseman that can quarterback a powerplay (something we haven't had in a decade-plus), doesn't make this team better.

Trading Gaborik for Boyle doesn't make this team a ton better, at least in the long run, I grant you, and trading for Boyle almost ensures that Richards will be bought out this off-season, but it's asinine to say he doesn't make this team better.

Same is said for Clowe. He's been a dud offensively this year compared to years past, but the bottom six needs someone that can provide offensive pressure AND play physical. He's everything none of the guys we have are.

I won't be heartbroken if we trade Gaborik for Boyle, Clowe and maybe a conditional pick that depends on whether or not Clowe re-ups next season. It's not an ideal trade, but it wouldn't be the worst move either.
I wouldn't trade Gaborik for a Dan Boyle package just because of Boyle's age.. haven't we learned by now? You KNOW once he gets here he's going to either suck right off the bat or be good this season and then suck the rest of the way.

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04-02-2013, 03:18 PM
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MDZ has pretty much produced on par with Boyle....it's not liek Boyle would be some huge giant offensive force like Karlsson.

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04-02-2013, 07:32 PM
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You people have such a short memory wanting to dump Gaborik for nothing. The guy is our best scorer. Even this year, he "only" has 9 goals...so what? That's bad? How about the savior Rick Nash who is good for 2-3 lazy penalties a game? He "only" has 13 and he's on a hot-streak. If this is Gaborik's cold-streak, I honestly can't wait for him to start getting hot to refresh everyone's memory he scored about 90 points as a RW sniper with us. Who else can do that as a winger? Kovalchuk? Maybe, Vanek? not quite, Nash? lol nope, he's scored 79 points in 2009 and that's his career high. He's never even scored 42 goals in his CAREER and Gaborik scored 42 only last year...and the year when he scored 86 points. Nash also makes $300,000 more than Gaborik for less production and more penalties. Just think about that for a moment. I'm a huge Nash fan as well, but if he didn't dangle and wasn't that big, I'm sure most of you would be thinking that trading Gaborik would be the wrong idea. I can almost guarantee next year he will not only outscore Nash, but will score 37-45 goals next year.

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04-02-2013, 07:50 PM
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problem is he has had 2 or 3 games where hes scored three goals or two goals and the rest hes been insignificant

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04-02-2013, 08:44 PM
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problem is he has had 2 or 3 games where hes scored three goals or two goals and the rest hes been insignificant
I would largely agree that Gabby has had an extended slump, but if you've watched his play for the last few games, he is blazing around out there, working his behind off, and getting quality chances. They just... wont go into the back of the net.

It'll loosen up for him at some point.

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04-02-2013, 09:44 PM
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You people have such a short memory wanting to dump Gaborik for nothing. The guy is our best scorer. Even this year, he "only" has 9 goals...so what? That's bad? How about the savior Rick Nash who is good for 2-3 lazy penalties a game? He "only" has 13 and he's on a hot-streak. If this is Gaborik's cold-streak, I honestly can't wait for him to start getting hot to refresh everyone's memory he scored about 90 points as a RW sniper with us. Who else can do that as a winger? Kovalchuk? Maybe, Vanek? not quite, Nash? lol nope, he's scored 79 points in 2009 and that's his career high. He's never even scored 42 goals in his CAREER and Gaborik scored 42 only last year...and the year when he scored 86 points. Nash also makes $300,000 more than Gaborik for less production and more penalties. Just think about that for a moment. I'm a huge Nash fan as well, but if he didn't dangle and wasn't that big, I'm sure most of you would be thinking that trading Gaborik would be the wrong idea. I can almost guarantee next year he will not only outscore Nash, but will score 37-45 goals next year.
Nash has 13 minor penalties in 31 games. Embellish much?

He's also 1 point shy of scoring at a point per game pace and leads the team in goals/assists/points despite missing 4 games.

Meanwhile Gaborik has just 2 goals in his last 22 games after scoring 7 goals in his first 13 games to start the season.

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04-03-2013, 01:53 PM
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good luck gabs. gave us over 100 goals in just over 3 seasons and got us some solid pieces in return.

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