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04-03-2013, 09:04 AM
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more likely the times wants him to stick to what he can prove. remember, he has bosses and does what they tell him he can do.
Yeah, that's true. It just seems like rumors would get more attention and therefore more pageviews if he could turn it into a post. Then again, maybe he didn't have enough for anything more than a tweet.

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04-03-2013, 09:05 AM
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Nope. Just realized its not worth getting all mad about stuff I have absolutely no control of.

As far as trading goes...

When Adam Oates was a player for the Caps I believe it was one year (maybe RIGHT before the Zednik/Bulis trade) where he said something along the lines of : (I'm HEAVILY paraphrasing here)

"As a player you don't want any trades because you struggle and go through so much as a team that you want to succeed as a team with the guys you struggled with in the first place"

I think there is merit to that. Team unity and chemistry is undervalued.
br, maybe you should start following the herd.

players in the ovechkin era have commented after deadline deals that bringing in players and spending money and assets shows the front office believes in them and is trying to support them. as i recall oates was very angry when mcphee traded for linden.

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Yeah, that's true. It just seems like rumors would get more attention and therefore more pageviews if he could turn it into a post. Then again, maybe he didn't have enough for anything more than a tweet.
i just know that a caps rumor coming out of canada, in this case lebrun, never seems to be reality. it could well be that whyno heard that the caps might shop chimera but not from a capitals source and likely not from an inside nhl source. an agent perhaps.

many canadian media use conversation amoung hockey media as sourcing for rumors.
they say heard around the leauge and so forth.

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I am not sure Ovi and the team have the luxury to see if the 4 young G'uns at age 28 become something special. Decisions must be made well before that age. Varly was the first to go. He is only 24.

I don't think we trade Neuvy today, but think Grubauer could fill his role as emergency starter this year if he were. I doubt MN even plays the rest of the regular season. is that even good for his development?

How many times does a G get beat out before you decide he is not the one? I think the best one should the one retained, not the loser be the one that challenges the new kid. While many may argue he was better than Varly, but I am not one of them.
When I went to see Nolan Yonkman's stats the other day, the Florida Panther page said to watch the panther's "Young Guns".

Why are you bringing up Florida's young guns on a Cap's page?

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br, maybe you should start following the herd.

players in the ovechkin era have commented after deadline deals that bringing in players and spending money and assets shows the front office believes in them and is trying to support them. as i recall oates was very angry when mcphee traded for linden.
Well players are NEVER going to say "hey...why did our dumbass GM bring in these last second mercenaries??? Does he not believe in us???"

What they really feel could be markedly different.

Oates is the type that was never afraid to speak his mind (thats what got him kicked out of Boston essentially).

I am hesitant about making trades when I believe the team is trending up. Its not as black and white as we are led to believe. Locker room chemistry is a hard thing for us to truly understand since we aren't in there.

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do you think ovechkin was offended when mcphee traded for fedorov? i am sure players dont want to see their mates lose their jobs or be moved away. i as most nhl playoff teams dont trade roster players at the deadline, that doesnt happen often.

as i recall ovechkin loved the pettinger for cooke deal.

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04-03-2013, 09:11 AM
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I like Ott a lot especially if we're committing to Ribeiro. But he doesn't fit unless we move Ward.

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04-03-2013, 09:13 AM
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do you think ovechkin was offended when mcphee traded for fedorov?
I have no idea. Information about the workings of a locker room are more directly understood by those intimately involved with the team.

For instance last year I believe we undermined Neuvirth's confidence by bringing in Vokoun even tho on paper it looked like a great transaction and GMGM was widely applauded for it.

There is huge risk involved if you ignore or don't fully understand the locker room dynamics.

As an outsider it is hard to know that. We can only guess.

Either way there is far less risk involved when you bring someone in for futures as opposed to roster players (Zednik/Bulis trade for example) but there is still risk.

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04-03-2013, 09:17 AM
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I'm probably the only one here who is hoping we don't make any trades unless it involves some minor future asset to bring in someone. I don't want anyone on the team moved out.
I don't want to lose anyone but 55.

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I said yesterday that Chimmers doesn't fit Oates' system. He's clearly the one who is struggling the most. If he can be moved for something decent, I'd do it.

Perhaps Bruce would want him in Anaheim? He worked well under Bruce's system.

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Good call on Chimera to Anaheim Ty

I am trying to think of who gets moved today, if anyone, and I will predict MP as a part of a deal for a winger

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Send Schultz and Chimera to Anaheim together.

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Why?
Yeah Luongo would probably be the most epically bad move of all bad moves if he were to be brought in.

There is so much wrong with that idea that I don't have the energy to even list!

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Send Schultz and Chimera to Anaheim together.
Please make this happen GMGM.

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Send Schultz and Chimera to Anaheim together.
Yes !

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It would clear some space for giving Ribeiro a higher amount if he takes a 4 year deal.

I wouldn't be surprised if we don't move anyone but add a depth player. Don't we have 48 contracts right now?

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04-03-2013, 09:31 AM
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I assume Kundratek and Orlov are coming back to the big club tomorrow. Neither are on the ice for Hershey.

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04-03-2013, 09:32 AM
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Fine with that, so long as it's sub-$1M. Hendo is a good 4th line player, and has improved his game each year with the Caps, IMO.

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I wouldn't be surprised if we don't move anyone but add a depth player. Don't we have 48 contracts right now?
If that's true we should immediately re-sign Olesky twice.

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I assume Kundratek and Orlov are coming back to the big club tomorrow. Neither are on the ice for Hershey.
Vogel said them being sent down weren't paper transactions, but I tend not to believe him.

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