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04-03-2013, 10:32 AM
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Soooo, Calgary definitely circumvented the cap with the Kipper deal. Keenan's statement that the $1.5m final year was meant to bring the cap hit down AND they knew he wouldn't play that year has become prophetic.

Let's see what this garage league does. My guess? Nothing.

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Wouldn't everyone be surprised if Vanek got traded?

Sure it's talked about, but it would still be a huge surprise.

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Soooo, Calgary definitely circumvented the cap with the Kipper deal. Keenan's statement that the $1.5m final year was meant to bring the cap hit down AND they knew he wouldn't play that year has become prophetic.

Let's see what this garage league does. My guess? Nothing.
They should totally penalize that fanbase for a contract that a different management team signed years ago under a different CBA

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Come on Darcy, you're holding up everything
I wish that Darcy could be a member of the front office, but report to a big picture guy who could overrule Darcy and help him make tough decisions.

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I wish that Darcy could be a member of the front office, but report to a big picture guy who could overrule Darcy and help him make tough decisions.
Ted Black.

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04-03-2013, 10:37 AM
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Soooo, Calgary definitely circumvented the cap with the Kipper deal. Keenan's statement that the $1.5m final year was meant to bring the cap hit down AND they knew he wouldn't play that year has become prophetic.

Let's see what this garage league does. My guess? Nothing.
Doesn't the recapture rule (aka the Luongo rule) cover this?

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They should totally penalize that fanbase for a contract that a different management team signed years ago under a different CBA

Yeah!

Especially since Calgarys dirty tricks worked so well in thier favor.

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They should totally penalize that fanbase for a contract that a different management team signed years ago under a different CBA
Yeah, they should penalize the ORGANIZATION for circumventing the cap. The commissioner has the power to do so. It's still cheating, even if it's discovered after-the-fact.

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Wouldn't everyone be surprised if Vanek got traded?

Sure it's talked about, but it would still be a huge surprise.
I'd be surprised for a bunch of reasons, but the biggest one would just be that it'd be a shock to the senses to not have him around anymore

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04-03-2013, 10:41 AM
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Ted Black.
I don't know that Ted Black is in that role though.

I want another hockey guy.

I want:

1)Big Picture Roster building GM
2a)Darcy- trade guy/ draft guy.
2b)Cap/finance guy

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Link for watching coverage?

I can't find it on NHL.com

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I'd be surprised for a bunch of reasons, but the biggest one would just be that it'd be a shock to the senses to not have him around anymore
Exactly.

It would be weir to be sitting here in a Vanek jersey and he's a former Sabre.

It would also just flat out be surprising that we actually trade Vanek. Same with Miller. Poms not so much.

There is talk about Cores.... The Core of cores is Vanek and Miller.

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Link for watching coverage?

I can't find it on NHL.com
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04-03-2013, 10:46 AM
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Per Vogl.

https://twitter.com/BuffNewsVogl

So no Couturier. #buttdial
Could be mainly because of the asking price though the outcome is the same.

I have no problem with that, if we trade Vanek it needs to be overpayment.

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Link for watching coverage?

I can't find it on NHL.com
http://www.nhl.com/ice/eventhome.htm...id=DL|NHL|home

live coverage starts at noon

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Anddddddddd Jack Johnson leaves Columbus practice early.

Not sure why.

Drew for JMFJ?

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Anddddddddd Jack Johnson leaves Columbus practice early.

Not sure why.

Drew for JMFJ?
Please God no. The most overrated player in the NHL: Jack Johnson. Possession black hole. Lombardi laughed his way to a Cup with that Carter/Johnson + 1st trade.

We just got rid of one, Darcy! Don't do it again! Johnson only plays well in international events.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

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Would explain why i cant find it..lol.... Thanks.

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Please God no. The most overrated player in the NHL: Jack Johnson. Possession black hole.

We just got rid of one, Darcy! Don't do it again! Johnson only plays well in international events.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
Haven't seen much of his games.

That bad huh?

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04-03-2013, 10:50 AM
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Could be mainly because of the asking price though the outcome is the same.

I have no problem with that, if we trade Vanek it needs to be overpayment.
Total agreement.

It's no secret I think moving V, P and M is the right move. But get the right return. There is no hurry.

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04-03-2013, 10:52 AM
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Haven't seen much of his games.

That bad huh?
He hasn't been good. And his contract is terrible at $4.357m thru 2017-18.

Was he in the USA program while Rolston was there? If so, this may be smoke, and where there's smoke...

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He hasn't been good. And his contract is terrible at $4.357m thru 2017-18.

Was he in the USA program while Rolston was there? If so, this may be smoke, and where there's smoke...
That would mean that theres a good possibility Rolston is staying longer then this year. Stop with this fear mongering!!

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Haven't seen much of his games.

That bad huh?
Apparently its just maintenance anyways.

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Per Dan Rosen on NHL Network, Regier says Vanek is safe.

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He hasn't been good. And his contract is terrible at $4.357m thru 2017-18.

Was he in the USA program while Rolston was there? If so, this may be smoke, and where there's smoke...
Johnson hasn't been good, but Stafford's not exactly lighting things up right now either. Given their respective terrible play, swapping them wouldn't be horrible value.

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