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04-03-2013, 01:01 PM
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The question needs to be asked....is giving up a 4th and acquiring Smithson a better option than giving those minutes to Lander?

The team obviously thinks it is a better option and I think thats worthy of scrutiny.
Yeah. I don't understand the rationale behind this acquisition at all. Unless Smithson carves out a niche for himself on that 4th line in the 10 to 12 remaining games he'll be gone in the summer.

I wonder what the Coyotes are asking for a player like Torres if Smithson can get you (presumably) a 4th round pick.

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04-03-2013, 01:02 PM
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Ha....hey I am not the biggest Belanger supporter but the only attribute that Smithson brings that Belanger doesn't is size.

This is a puzzling move IMO simply because a player like Lander is about as close to NHL ready as he is going to get.

It appears to be a waste of a 4th round draft pick.
And being healthy, which is a pretty big attribute right now. Hope Oilers can move out a body somehow, but if not, oh well.

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04-03-2013, 01:02 PM
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Ha....hey I am not the biggest Belanger supporter but the only attribute that Smithson brings that Belanger doesn't is size.

This is a puzzling move IMO simply because a player like Lander is about as close to NHL ready as he is going to get.

It appears to be a waste of a 4th round draft pick.
Belanger is a kitty cat and Smithson plays with grit. Smithson also actually capable of scoring a goal and not being the Belanger triangle to offence.

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The question needs to be asked....is giving up a 4th and acquiring Smithson a better option than giving those minutes to Lander?

The team obviously thinks it is a better option and I think thats worthy of scrutiny.
If Lander were a 55% face-off guy, I would agree with you, but in his short stint, Lander was worse on the dot than RNH and Gagner.

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We need hard workers like him and he can win a faceoff. Good small pick up.

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Character guy who's a big body who is a good Center. Depth.

Now try and move Peckham for a 4th, or atleast salvage a pick.
I look at lower draft picks like currency; better used in trades than on drafting (more often than not). Tambo has spent some currency this year -- Fistric, Brown, and Smithson. Time to get some back with Belanger or Peckham. Maybe Jones, although I'd like to keep him.

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If it's a nagging injury I doubt they'll be any takers on Belanger.
What worries me is the buy out at the end of the season with Belanger.

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04-03-2013, 01:04 PM
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When he outgrew his effectiveness the Predators dealt him to the Panthers for a 6th round pick. Tambellini just made a trade just to say he made a trade.
This makes no sense, you guys just love criticizing every move. Same posters too.
It's not a big move or anything but the Oilers needed a 4th line center. This guy can win faceoffs, be physical and PK. He's not a worldbeater but he seems like a competent enough 4th line guy. What's the problem here?
Lander can play the rest of the season in OKC and play next season on the Oilers 4th line.

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I know nothing about Smithson, but if the Oilers feel like keeping Belanger on the IR is a good idea, I'm willing to believe that they feel Lander isn't quite ready and Smithson is a better option at 4th line C.

UFA after this season, so if he craps the bed, all it cost was a 4th round pick.

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When he outgrew his effectiveness the Predators dealt him to the Panthers for a 6th round pick. Tambellini just made a trade just to say he made a trade.


We desperately need players that can win draws. Weird you can't see that.

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Who's this Puck Daddy clown? I'm not a fan of this move but he's got this "Milbury Scale" for trades and he gave this trade three Milbury's out of four (that's bad). It's a non-move but it's not laughably bad.

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Belanger is a kitty cat and Smithson plays with grit. Smithson also actually capable of scoring a goal and not being the Belanger triangle to offence.
Watching Belanger play he looks tired and bored all the time. Watching Smithson he is always headed for the puck with urgency and has some killer instinct, will try his best to capitalize on chances he is given.

Granted I don't know a whole lot about him but as a replacement for Belanger I think its an alright move.

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anything to get Belanger off this team.

can't wait to see him out there in the final 2 minutes of games

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Who's this Puck Daddy clown? I'm not a fan of this move but he's got this "Milbury Scale" for trades and he gave this trade three Milbury's out of four (that's bad). It's a non-move but it's not laughably bad.
Yeah that was the guy I was talking about dude is a clown.

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And being healthy, which is a pretty big attribute right now. Hope Oilers can move out a body somehow, but if not, oh well.
Actually this is a good point. Belanger has been rather fragile since his arrival.

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To anybody criticizing the deal, just wondering if you guys remember that brief stint where we were icing a whopping 2 NHL C's for a few games...

Most 4th rounders are lucky to play ~50 NHL games, Smithson has 36 playoff games or something. I ain't mad.

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04-03-2013, 01:09 PM
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This makes no sense, you guys just love criticizing every move. Same posters too.
It's not a big move or anything but the Oilers needed a 4th line center. This guy can win faceoffs, be physical and PK. He's not a worldbeater but he seems like a competent enough 4th line guy. What's the problem here?
Lander can play the rest of the season in OKC and play next season on the Oilers 4th line.
And like I said if Smithson fails to make an impression over the 10-12 games that he plays then he'll probably be gone in the summer as a UFA. Hopefully, the reports of his post-Nashville ineffectiveness are over-exaggerated.

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Smithson is an offensive black hole...even worse than Belanger.

He is no better on the draw than Belanger and no better defensively and not as good a skater.

The only upside I can see in this player is that he is a big body which this team really needs.

The thing that becomes clear is that the team clearly feels that Lander is not a 4th line NHL option at this point.
At least we won't be expecting offense that will never come with Smithson. He also seems like he'll embrace the 4th line role more then Belanger.

Not to mention he's drastically more physical, right handed and brings size.

He's also played 80+ games multiple times in his career, seems to be pretty healthy.

I'll take it, Belly hasn't been very good here aside from winning draws.

Smithson actually has more points then Belanger this year for what it's worth.

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Ha....hey I am not the biggest Belanger supporter but the only attribute that Smithson brings that Belanger doesn't is size.

This is a puzzling move IMO simply because a player like Lander is about as close to NHL ready as he is going to get.

It appears to be a waste of a 4th round draft pick.
I think your being myopic when you refuse to expand on the "size" aspect of Smithson's game. Its not just a measurement in this example. This is a player who actually stalks opposing players with tenacity and intent.

Im not saying he is Wendel Clark...but...there is some real venom to his game.

I still like Lander but he didn't seem to have enough speed to play full time NHL minutes. The only reason he fits as a 4rth liner here right now is because 4rth line NHLers are comprable to him in speed...not style.

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04-03-2013, 01:12 PM
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And like I said if Smithson fails to make an impression over the 10-12 games that he plays then he'll probably be gone in the summer as a UFA. Hopefully, the reports of his post-Nashville ineffectiveness are over-exaggerated.
Exactly, there's no downside.
If he craps the bed, is he any worse than the Belanger/Smyth vortex at center?
And he walks at the end of the season, it's a decent reward, no risk type of deal. I don't think it's a trade for the sake of making a trade, the Oilers needed a 4th line center and he seems decent enough.

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We desperately need players that can win draws. Weird you can't see that.
Even worse, everyone pissed and moaned about the "lack of center depth", they add one and it's "not good enough"

The other thing I find interesting, is wording uses to describe things. If this is the Oilers moving a player for a 4th, people will say they acquire a "late round pick", because the Oilers traded for this player, he was acquired for a "mid round pick". I love pointless semantics.

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Belanger is a kitty cat and Smithson plays with grit. Smithson also actually capable of scoring a goal and not being the Belanger triangle to offence.
He has 9 in 500+ games.

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04-03-2013, 01:14 PM
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I also like this move for the fact Lander can go back to OKC and lead the team in the playoffs down there.

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If this means Smyth plays less I'm happy with it

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04-03-2013, 01:15 PM
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Staples just tweeted: If Smithson is to Belanger what Brown has been to Eager, this could be a good move for #Oilers. We'll see .....

That's a good way of looking at it, I guess. I just wish that we could dump Belanger somewhere.

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