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[TB/OTT] Ben Bishop to TB for Cory Conacher and a 4th round pick (2013)

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04-03-2013, 01:22 PM
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Maybe Yzerman does not know how to identify great netminders judging from the lack of elite goaltenders he played with in his career (minus Hasek for that brief period). This is a bit of a risk to take, even if Bishop has enough upside to become a number one.

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We got Conacher for free so it's really just a 4th. Rather have Bishop than Garon next year as well. Conacher came out of the gates hot but has cooled considerably and was put on the 3rd line. Even Cooper who helped him become the player he was kept him there and his minutes stayed low. There must be something the team doesn't see in him to think he can be a top 6 player. Only thing I hate is that he's a LW, need to convert Panik or Brown to LW.

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04-03-2013, 01:22 PM
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Sweet, another second rate goalie and we get rid of a (promising) Concacher. Bishop will be gone within a year or two, mark my words. What a dumb ****ing trade.

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It's official, I'm dropping the F is SFY. I am now calling him Stevie "Why"

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AND a fourth?

Holy sheep ****.

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Felt like one of TJohnny or Cory was going to be moved all along. Looks like TJohnny won out.

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We got Conacher for free so it's really just a 4th. Rather have Bishop than Garon next year as well. Conacher came out of the gates hot but has cooled considerably and was put on the 3rd line. Even Cooper who helped him become the player he was kept him there and his minutes stayed low. There must be something the team doesn't see in him to think he can be a top 6 player. Only thing I hate is that he's a LW, need to convert Panik or Brown to LW.
lol no.

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I am just in shock though. I mean, at the games I went to here, they would advertise Cory on the jumbotron non-stop, so I was expecting him to be part of our core "un-movable" players that we were marketing around. Just very weird. Also, I saw so many Conacher jerseys this season, so I feel bad for those people too. Hopefully they refund them.

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My wife is even pissed. She loved Cory.
You don't even want to know what my wife's reaction was. She has a broader vocabulary than I thought. Seems like all the women loved Cory.

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Calm down guys

I hate to see Conacher go and Bishop is not worth Conacher, but get serious, SY made sure we will have at least on good goalie until Vasya is ready, either Bishop or Lindback will pan out. And well Cory was just on of a few and he hasn't looked all that great the last 10 games, I'm just happy we don't give up Killorn.
And if we faced it, Conacher was an unbelievable story, but he was one of many top6 future guys, so I'm okay with him, but would have prefered Panik A LOT.

Maybe I want to downplay it a little bit, to stay calm, but after all it's a trade from riches to weakness so I will survive it.

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04-03-2013, 01:26 PM
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If the deal was for Johnson or Conacher, I'd have shipped Conacher too.

Johnson is much more complete.

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The worst part of this trade will be having Cory as a divisional rival for the foreseeable future and seeing him stick up for his teammates there...Ottawa still has Anderson/Lehner in net

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Toughness/size is/was an issue. You have seen it. Conacher, Johnson and St. Louis means too many undersized players. They thought Johnson was to be kept.

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Yzerman, Niewendyk, Feaster etc.. I could do a better job.

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04-03-2013, 01:27 PM
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Sweet, another second rate goalie and we get rid of a (promising) Concacher. Bishop will be gone within a year or two, mark my words. What a dumb ****ing trade.
Does that mean you stop trying to address it?

I doubt Bishop will be gone that soon unless it's over a contract. He's pretty good and the Ottawa system is a little bit overrated.

This is the second year in a row where Bishop has carried a significant stretch and load.

IDK I'm not saying I don't like the return my team got but Bishop is a really good goaltender and a guy worth taking a gamble on if your team has had issues with goaltending.

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04-03-2013, 01:28 PM
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At least we didn't give him any motivation for destroying us for the next 10yrs in the same division or anything...

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Mason is going to get eaten alive in Philly I think.

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Calm down guys

I hate to see Conacher go and Bishop is not worth Conacher, but get serious, SY made sure we will have at least on good goalie until Vasya is ready, either Bishop or Lindback will pan out. And well Cory was just on of a few and he hasn't looked all that great the last 10 games, I'm just happy we don't give up Killorn.
And if we faced it, Conacher was an unbelievable story, but he was one of many top6 future guys, so I'm okay with him, but would have prefered Panik A LOT.

Maybe I want to downplay it a little bit, to stay calm, but after all it's a trade from riches to weakness so I will survive it.
lol no.

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Bishop is hands down one of the best backups in the league, I'm sure he will serve you guys well.

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This will be Yzerman's 3rd attempt at solving the goaltending problem. At the price he just paid especially when Bishop cost just a second last year it should be time for him to go.
Yes he wasn't willing to give up a 2nd for him last year.

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Lightning GM Steve Yzerman said he spoke to the Blues about minor-league G Ben Bishop but was not willing to give up a second-round draft pick for him.
But now he's ok giving up one of our top prospects and one of the ROtY candidates who also is one of our leading goalscorers already.

And what does this say about Lindback. We giving up already?

I don't like this trade at all. Unless Bishop becomes an allstar goalie this trade is a huge disaster. Conacher's gonna have a great career and Yzerman's gonna regret this long time.

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Bishop is hands down one of the best backups in the league, I'm sure he will serve you guys well.
Good thing we need a backup goalie...oh wait.

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Too many small players(kuch, tj, conacher, st.louis, etc). Panik/Brown/etc won out because they have size. From there you can see it coming down to Conacher and TJohnson and thats a hard decision.

Johnson is better defensively/faceoffs as opposed to Conacher who is kinda top 6 or bust.

Still not happy. Loved the kid.

Bishop better be damn good.

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Don't like this deal at all. Steve what were you thinking?

The Lightning need goaltending, but he overpaid I feel.

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If the deal was for Johnson or Conacher, I'd have shipped Conacher too.

Johnson is much more complete.
Here is the post to take note of. This is what you don't always want to hear, but need to believe. Cory still has his holes in his game, but is a great young player. To get a great young goaltender, you have to give a great young player. Johnson also plays center, and is better defensively.

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