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04-03-2013, 04:05 PM
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The team post-deadline and how you feel about it

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I said before the deadline this season that we needed something quite similar to where I felt the Bruins were at at this point in 2011. Back then, I said a tenacious forward and a defenseman with wheels. Then we got Kelly, who I saw as an expensive fourth-line defensive specialist... And I was confused. But then the Peverley deal went through and it all made sense to me. We got precisely what we needed.

This year? I wanted a LH depth defenseman with (hopefully) a smidgen of transition to his game and a big forward who would challenge for a top-6 spot... But most importantly would play BIG.

We nearly had Iginla (who would have been perfect as he brought scoring AND tough physical game) and I was all for going after Ryane Clowe who had the latter, but not necessarily the former. And when Glencross is mentioned, I perked up too - because he brings a lot of what Iggy brings, but is signed for another couple of seasons.

We got Jagr. And I have NO idea how he fits. I was on board with attempting to sign him in the off-season, but midway I get the feeling that there may be issues in Jaromir finding his niche in this forward group. Or more accurately, an issue with Julien being able to find that niche in time for Jagr to be effective.

Redden is almost precisely what I was looking for on defense.

So I'm thinking about it... But I don't wish to do so alone.

What do you think our forward/defense lines will shake out like?

How do you feel about what Chiarelli was able to accomplish this deadline?

Do you think that this is a team that will compete with the Penguins' firepower in the postseason?

How would the potential of Carl Soderberg's addition to the roster (as well as the Dogman) affect your opinion either way?

Regardless of your answers to these questions, one MUST feel good about how Chiarelli managed to achieve what he did, WITHOUT giving up a single one of our better prospects. One good pick that is contingent on the success of the team in playoffs... I'll take that. Another savvy deadline day for our GM. I wonder if it's enough.

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Felt great until the Bergy injury....

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04-03-2013, 04:12 PM
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Sorry to say, the Bergeron injury means everything. If we are without him, we are not doing anything. (Just do not tell the Bruins that, Claude.)

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I feel very good.

Of course, that means Bergy is back at some point before round 2. And if the Yeti comes over, that's even better.

The East is as weak as I remember and truly believe this is our SCF berth to lose. This team plays like they can and we'll have hockey late June to watch.

March-Bergy-Seguin
Loooch-Krejci-Jagr
Kelly-Peverley-Horton
Merlot
Soderberg/Caron/Pandolfo

Chara-Boychuk
Seids-Hamilton
Ference-McQuaid
Redden/Bart

Another good news is that we still have one pick in top 60 (26th or 57-60th) and all our top prospects after this deadline.

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Felt great until the Bergy injury....
I'm going to reserve judgment on that one until a timeframe is estimated.

I somehow feel as though he'll be out only briefly. But until I know for sure, I'm not going to stress about it. I think Chiarelli would have been all over getting another center in here with two already down. Unless he felt informedly optimistic.

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Felt great until the Bergy injury....
My thoughts exactly. We're likely looking at a 2-4 week return at best. Likely longer.

Given he's the team's MVP... not good.

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I feel good about the team.(If Bergy is not out for the season) They need to play a full 60 minutes and they are cup contenders. If they don't they don't deserve a deep playoff run anyways.

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Yeah Bergeron calls all bets off. If Bergeron is in the line up for play offs I think the lines look good. If the Yeti comes I think the 3rd goes from black hole to serious threat to score.

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I feel very good.

Of course, that means Bergy is back at some point before round 2. And if the Yeti comes over, that's even better.

The East is as weak as I remember and truly believe this is our SCF berth to lose. This team plays like they can and we'll have hockey late June to watch.

March-Bergy-Seguin
Loooch-Krejci-Jagr
Kelly-Peverley-Horton
Merlot
Soderberg/Caron/Pandolfo

Chara-Boychuk
Seids-Hamilton
Ference-McQuaid
Redden/Bart

Another good news is that we still have one pick in top 60 (26th or 57-60th) and all our top prospects after this deadline.
I think Redden is going to get time in the regular rotation. And we have Aaron Johnson here too.

Chara - Seidenberg
Ference - Boychuk
Redden/Johnson - Hamilton/McQuaid
Johnson/McQuaid/Hamilton/Redden
Bartkowski

I have a theory with the forward lines as well...

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Not at all a fan of the D and Caron, Pandolfo, Daugavins are still on the team. However the East is terrible, so anything less than the conference finals would be a major disappointment for this roster.

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I hope the team steps up for Bergy.
And I hope Seguin gets to play center now.

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I feel very good.

Of course, that means Bergy is back at some point before round 2. And if the Yeti comes over, that's even better.

The East is as weak as I remember and truly believe this is our SCF berth to lose. This team plays like they can and we'll have hockey late June to watch.

March-Bergy-Seguin
Loooch-Krejci-Jagr
Kelly-Peverley-Horton
Merlot
Soderberg/Caron/Pandolfo

Chara-Boychuk
Seids-Hamilton
Ference-McQuaid
Redden/Bart

Another good news is that we still have one pick in top 60 (26th or 57-60th) and all our top prospects after this deadline.
No way we see soderberg not in the lineup if he comes over.

It would be

March-Bergy-Seguin
Loooch-Krejci-Jagr
Soderberg-Peverley-Horton
Kelly - Soups - Paille
Thornton/Dogman

Maybe kelly and pevs change spots. Pandalfo and Caron to the A.



This team needs bergeron back quickly and 100%

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Basically we gave up a 2nd for the run and a 1st if we win the cup. Im very cool with that. Bring on the playoffs and pitts. At this point i hope we got to go though pitts AND mtl lol.

wonder what moron is gonna gateek me lol.

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I like the idea of forward "pairs" with plug and play.

Krejci - Jagr
Lucic - Seguin
Marchand - Bergy
Campbell - Thornton

Leaving Peverley, Horton, Kelly, Daugavins, (Soderberg), Paille to battle for four positions.

No more Caron. No more Pandalfo.

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this team has shot to come out of the east. I love the Jagr deal, wanted a better D, but the current D is better than the one that won the Cup. Redden will provide solid depth unlike 2011 when Hnidy was in the lineup for a couple games.

Get Bergy back healthy and this team is a serious threat.

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I'm very optimistic. I think we're the 2nd best team in the East. Pitt first. Bergeron had a mild concussion. The playoffs don't start for 4 weeks. He'll be back. The health of Bos/Pitt might be the determining factor who wins the east. My only disclaimer, is that neither have a guaranteed shut-down goalie. I know Fleury won once. But, he's been dreadful against TB and Philly the last 2 years. Everybody is hating on Tuukka about 2010. That series had more to do with the Krejci injury, Sobotka getting dinged and Savvy shouldn't have been playing. B's were a 6th seed and 29th in scoring. Hardly shocking they didn't beat Philly. Shocking they blew a 3-0 lead in Gm 7. Lost in ot and got dominated in games 5 and 6. Up to Tuukka to lead us to the promised land. He's got the talent to do it. Needs the opportunity.

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"Dogman Jagr Redden and the yeti" sounds like the beginning of a bad joke- But its a hell of a lot of talent to infuse into a team that was really only lacking a third line winger.

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this team has shot to come out of the east. I love the Jagr deal, wanted a better D, but the current D is better than the one that won the Cup. Redden will provide solid depth unlike 2011 when Hnidy was in the lineup for a couple games.

Get Bergy back healthy and this team is a serious threat.
With Bergeron back, I think our forwards are better too. Provided Jagr does what I hope he can do.

I want to be able to keep Rask from HAVING to be the goalie Thomas was when we won. If Jagr and Soderberg pan out, I think we're there.

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As long as Redden never sees the ice I think we have really improved, just bringing in Jagr and sitting down Pandolfo should be a huge upgrade.

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Felt great until the Bergy injury....
Yup.

Felt light years better yesterday before the 2nd period last night.

He'll be back. Came back against Tampa, scored two goals and played out of his mind, if I remember. Telling myself he's going to be ok. B/c the alternative is too horrible to think a/b, as we have no chance w/o him.

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I like the idea of forward "pairs" with plug and play.

Krejci - Jagr
Lucic - Seguin
Marchand - Bergy
Campbell - Thornton

Leaving Peverley, Horton, Kelly, Daugavins, (Soderberg), Paille to battle for four positions.

No more Caron. No more Pandalfo.
I would just keep them around (assuming you can, no expert here) for depth. Don't play 'em unless injury intervenes. They are good guys to have in that case. Better than no net at all.

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Chiarelli did great. Loss of Bergeron is a season-ender. He had no control over that.

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I posted this in the trade deadline thread so if a mod is bored...

I'm glad to hear Bergeron is able to go outside for a walk. Nobody can predict a concussion but that's certainly a good start for the recovery.

Disappointed with the deadline but I don't think it was Chia's fault. Too many pretenders out there. I don't think any top 4 d-men moved today, did they? Clearly the prices were ridiculous for everyone out there.

Just have to hope to get healthy and stay healthy for the playoffs.

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I want to be able to keep Rask from HAVING to be the goalie Thomas was when we won.
As long as our goal tending stays healthy I feel pretty good. I am becoming a huge Khudobin fan.

PC did a pretty good job.
I have faith in Jagr and that the "chemistry" will happen.

Redden was an excellent move.

The Bergeron injury sets us back, but this team can rally if need be. (we cant control it anyway, no sense in worrying)

I have faith in this team and the additions that were made.


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