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04-03-2013, 06:15 PM
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I can't believe they actually traded gaborik for brassard and a bunch of bums, my god. It's becoming very hard to not be a torts hater and assume all this stupidity is coming from him.

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I'm still kind of conflicted with this deal. Let's see how it pans out.

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Brassards aren't conducive to championship rosters. Inconsistent, paid their market value, and little in the way of leadership. He has physical talent but it never clicked. What you're left with is a guy being paid like a 2/3 C without the skillset to play in the top 6. So he plays grinder lines without grinder attributes.
Maybe playing for the worst franchise in the NHL might have been holding him back.... a little...

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04-03-2013, 06:18 PM
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Moore should be a very solid #4 at minimum in his career. Yes, we're stacked, but he is quality.

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04-03-2013, 06:20 PM
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Great trade... Gabby looks done.

I know you have he was a 40 goal scorer but that was before a shoulder injury. He looks slower and his shot is average right now

And if he turns it on then so be it. He was dogging it here and we got good players for him

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Maybe playing for the worst franchise in the NHL might have been holding him back.... a little...
He did have pretty good coaching, and according to CBJ fans, "Didn't get it." Not a good sign.

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Not sure if this was mentioned, but with Brassard's acquisition, it almost certainly spells the end of Richards via buy out this off-season or next.

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am I the only one that loves this trade?

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++1..hate this trade..should dump torts instead
This. Take the GM and owner too.

Let's see, we give up Gabby, Dubi, Arty, a 1st, Parlett, DelIsle and get back Nash, Dorsett, Moore and a 6th.

OMG! We've traded places with the BJ's. I will die laughing when we're on the links with no first, no second ****-load of 3rd rounders and a 6th.

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He did have pretty good coaching, and according to CBJ fans, "Didn't get it." Not a good sign.
who exactly "got it" in Columbus besides Nash?

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Not sure if this was mentioned, but with Brassard's acquisition, it almost certainly spells the end of Richards via buy out this off-season or next.
Poor Bucky

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04-03-2013, 06:26 PM
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This. Take the GM and owner too.

Let's see, we give up Gabby, Dubi, Arty, a 1st, Parlett, DelIsle and get back Nash, Dorsett, Moore and a 6th.

OMG! We've traded places with the BJ's. I will die laughing when we're on the links with no first, no second ****-load of 3rd rounders and a 6th.
Missed the part with Brassard...

i know you're broken hearted over Parlett and Delsie

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PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS 2013 (50)

NEW YORK RANGERS (26 - 3 players on LTIR)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
1 D McDonagh, Ryan (ELC) $1,300,000* RFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 Montreal (2007)
2 F Stepan, Derek (ELC) $875,000 RFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHLR2 #51 NYR (2008)
3 F Hagelin, Carl (ELC) $875,000* RFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R6 #168 NYR (2007)
4 D Sauer, Michael (LTIR) $1,250,000 RFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R2 #40 NYR (2005)
5 F Clowe, Ryan $3,625,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R6 #175 San Jose (2001)
6 D Hamrlik, Roman $3,500,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #1 Washington (1992)
7 D Eminger, Steve $750,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 Washington (2002)
8 D Zuccarello, Mats $750,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
9 D Gilroy, Matt $650,000 UFA 2013 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
10 D Del Zotto, M. $2,550,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #20 NYR (2008)
11 D Moore, John (ELC) $965,000 RFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #21 Columbus Blue Jackets (2009)
12 G Lundqvist, Henrik $6,875,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #208 NYR (2000)
13 F Callahan, Ryan $4,275,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R4 #127 NYR (2004)
14 D Girardi, Dan $3,325,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
15 F Brassard, Derick $3,200,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
16 D Stralman, Anton $1,700,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #216 Toronto (2005)
17 F Boyle, Brian $1,700,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003)
18 F Pyatt, Taylor $1,550,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #8 New York Isles (1999)
19 F Powe, Darroll $1,066,667 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted
20 G Biron, Martin $1,300,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #16 Buffalo (1995)
21 F Asham, Arron $1,000,000 UFA 2014 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #71 Montreal (1996)
22 F Miller, J.T. (ELC) $1,244,167* RFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #15 NYR (2011)
23 D Staal, Marc (LTIR) $3,975,000 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 NYR (2005)
24 F Dorsett, Derek (LTIR) $1,633,333 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #189 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
25 F Nash, Rick (NMC) $7,800,000 UFA 2019 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #1 Columbus (2002)
26 F Richards, Brad (NMC) $6,666,667 UFA 2020 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #64 Tampa Bay (1998)

Assigned to AHL/ECHL/Europe (24)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
27 D Niemi, Jyri (ELC) $700,000* RFA 2013 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL R3 #72 NYI (2008)
28 F Ferriero, Benn $700,000 RFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R7 #196 Phoenix (2006)
29 D Pyett, Logan $600,000 RFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R7 #212 Detroit (2006)
30 F Palmieri, Nick $577,500 RFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R3 #79 New Jersey Devils (2007)
31 F Mashinter, Brandon $550,000 RFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
32 D Collins, Sean $600,000 UFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
33 F Segal, Brandon $550,000 UFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R4 #102 Nashville (2002)
34 D Vernace, Mike $525,000 UFA 2013 Connecticut Whale/AHL R7 #201 San Jose (2004)
35 F Kreider, Chris (ELC) $1,325,000* RFA 2014Connecticut Whale/AHL R1 #19 NYR (2009)
36 F Jean, Kyle (ELC) $925,000* RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
37 F Bourque, Ryan (ELC) $900,000* RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL R3 #80 NYR (2009)
38 G Missiaen, Jason (ELC) $750,000* RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHLUndrafted
39 G Stajcer, Scott (ELC) $700,000* RFA 2014 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLR5 #140 NYR (2009)
40 F Wilson, Jason (ELC) $588,333 RFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL R5 #130 NYR (2010)
41 D McIlrath, Dylan (ELC) $1,295,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL R1 #10 NYR (2010)
42 F Fast(h), Jesper (ELC) $900,000* RFA 2015Connecticut Whale/AHL R6 #157 NYR (2010)
43 D Bickel, Stu $750,000 UFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
44 F Newbury, Kris $600,000 UFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL R5 #139 San Jose (2002)
45 F Haley, Micheal $600,000 UFA 2014 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
46 F Thomas, Christian (ELC) $970,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL R2 #40 NYR (2010)
47 F Yogan, Andrew (ELC) $800,000 RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL R4 #100 NYR (2010)
48 F Lindberg, Oscar (ELC) $760,000* RFA 2015 Loaned to Skellefteå AIK/SEL R2 #57 PHX (2010)
49 F Hrivik, Marek (ELC) $685,000* RFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted
50 G Talbot, Cameron $562,600 UFA 2015 Connecticut Whale/AHL Undrafted

CONTRACTED PLAYERS THAT DO NOT COUNT against 50 contract limit in 2013 (4)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted
+ D Allen, Connor (ELC) $1,775,000* RFA 2016Connecticut Whale/AHL?undrafted
+ D Hughes, Tommy (ELC) $NA* RFA 2015??London Knights/OHLundrafted
+ F Nicholls, J. (ELC) $709,167 RFA 2016 Juniors - Saskatoon Blades/WHL R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010)
+ F St. Croix, M. (ELC S) $665,000 RFA 2016 Juniors - Edmonton Oil Kings/WHL R4 #106 NYR (2011)

Players still unsigned but with rights retained by NYR (there are a few more here I believe)
Pos PlayerTeam Drafted
D Pashnin, Mikhail HC Lokomotiv Yaroslavl/KHL R7 #200 NYR (2009)
F Fogarty, Steven Notre Dame Fighting Irish/CCHA R3 #72 NYR (2011)
F McColgan, Shane Saskatoon Blades/WHL R5 #134 NYR (2011)
D Noreau, Samuel Baie-Comeau Drakkar/LHJMQ R5 #136 NYR(2011)
D Čerešňák, Peter Peterborough Petes/OHL R6 #172 NYR (2011)
D Skjei, Brady Minnesota Golden Gophers/WCHA R1 #28 NYR (2012)
F Nieves, Cristoval Michigan Wolverines/CCHA R2 #59 NYR (2012)
D Andersson, Calle Malmö /HA R4 #119 NYR (2012)
F Spelling, Thomas Oskarshamn/HA R5 #142 NYR(2012)

* - includes bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract
LTIR - denotes player placed on Long time injury reserve

NYR Draft picks in 2013
  • 3rd round Nashville (for NYR 3rd round pick 2012)
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 3rd round Columbus (in Nash trade 2012, conditional - that NYR do not go to SC finals in 2013)
  • 4th round NYR
  • 6th round NYR
  • 6th round Columbus (for Marian Gaborik)
  • NO 1st rounder (traded to Columbus for Rick Nash... 2012)
  • NO 2nd rounder (traded to San Jose for Ryan Clowe in 2013)
  • NO 5th rounder (traded to Nashville for Nashville 5th 2012 - chose Tomas Spelling at #142)
  • NO 7th rounder (traded to Minnesota along with Eric "Crusher" Christensen for Casey Wellman 2012)
NYR Draft picks in 2014
  • 1st round NYR
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 4th round NYR
  • 5th round Florida (for Casey Wellman)
  • 5th round NYR
  • 6th round NYR
  • Eventually NO 2nd rounder NYR (conditionally traded to San Jose for Ryan Clowe in 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR or NYR get to ECF in 2013 - then San Jose gets the pick. It will be the Rangers' 5th-round pick in 2014 if neither condition is met.)
  • Eventually NO 7th rounder (conditionally traded to San Jose along with Tommy "horror-movie" Grant for Brandon Mashinter 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR then San Jose gets the pick)

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04-03-2013, 06:26 PM
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am I the only one that loves this trade?
its a great trade... gabby isn't a top winger anymore

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Not sure if this was mentioned, but with Brassard's acquisition, it almost certainly spells the end of Richards via buy out this off-season or next.
I had the same thought, but in combination with whether or not Stepan is truly emerging as a #1 C.

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04-03-2013, 06:26 PM
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This is not a trade that improves our playoff chances. This is a salary and torts dump. Team did not improved. Just freed up money to sig hags, McDonough, etc.

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04-03-2013, 06:28 PM
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Still cannot f'ing believe we didn't somehow finagle a draft pick back out of all of this

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This is not a trade that improves our playoff chances. This is a salary and torts dump. Team did not improved. Just freed up money to sig hags, McDonough, etc.
Clowe has to be taken into consideration with the other new faces

Just hope Dorsett gets in sooner rather than later

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04-03-2013, 06:29 PM
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This is not a trade that improves our playoff chances. This is a salary and torts dump. Team did not improved. Just freed up money to sig hags, McDonough, etc.
Depends. This trade very well might have allowed their forwards to all slot into their proper roles. That will make this team better, since that's been a big issue this season.

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who exactly "got it" in Columbus besides Nash?
Wouldn't know. But players can look like they know what they're doing, even on bad teams, and it doesn't sound like Brassard was one of those players. I guess we'll see for ourselves soon enough.

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04-03-2013, 06:30 PM
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Torts: On if he believes the Rangers are a better team after the trade deadline: “I have no idea.”
That's odd. It's almost sounds as if Torts himself didn't make these trades, but possibly the GM.

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Still cannot f'ing believe we didn't somehow finagle a draft pick back out of all of this
We did.

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Should have dealt him at the draft for a better return. Pretty clearly Torts running a guy out of town.
You mean a pretty clear case of a guy running himself out of town. I was unaware Torts was playing under the guise of Marian Gaborik.

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Depends. This trade very well might have allowed their forwards to all slot into their proper roles. That will make this team better, since that's been a big issue this season.
Yeah but torts mixes more often than Betty Crocker. He changes lines like crazy.

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OUT:

Gaborik, who has been miserably under performing, not creating any offense and stuck in the dog house skating with Pyatt/Newbury/Boyle/etc.

IN:

Clowe & Brassard who, combined, should at least be able to match the offense created and provided by Gaborik THIS year and by being two bodies rather than one, will force someone who is not NHL caliber out of the lineup. Clowe also can bring a bit of the Dubinsky element that's been missing and may be able to rebound to a nice complimentary scorer with the scenery change. By all accounts, he's a great teammate, which is the kind of character this team lost in guys like Prust and Dubi.

Moore, who forces Hamrlik/Gilroy/Eminger out of the lineup, provides much needed puck moving skill and speed on the backend in their place and has the potential to become a nice #3-4 D-man overall.

Dorsett who, once healthy, will provide something we've been sorely lacking and go a great distance towards replacing the Prust element we've been missing. Dorsett is a motor type of player. He can actually help energize and motor the entire team the way Prust could.


Seems like we improved, a little bit, to me.

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