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04-04-2013, 01:56 AM
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I think if we make the playoffs we'll be lucky to have this guy for our bottom six. Assuming we go in with a healthy roster, I think we'd have the depth to roll 4 lines for quite some time against any team. Not necessarily lines, but the depth would be:

Hagelin-Stepan-Nash
Clowe-Richards-Callahan
Pyatt-Brassard-Zuccarello
Powe-Boyle-Dorsett

Asham (Miller)
Sit Pyatt and insert Asham. Move Boyle to wing like he played tonight with Brassard. Asham-powe-dorsett as a fourth line would be sick and not be fun to play against.
Broken collarbones can take up to 12 weeks to fully. Let's hope he makes a quicker recovery than that.

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CBJ fans are really bummed he was traded. He is that GLUE guy Torts keeps talking about. Though, I don't think he's nearly as good at fighting as Prust was. That said, once he's healthy, the Rangers will have 3 guys who can drop the mitts - Clowe, Dorsett and Asham.

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A Little backround info from a Columbus fan: Thought this might be helpful.
Brassard- Taken 6th overall 2 GMs ago. Was a highly-touted, dynamic, high-scoring junior player. Expectations were high from the start. Played well in his time in the AHL, and gave a sense of his potential not just there, but in his rookie season that saw him post 25 points in 32 games at the NHL level. Got his shoulder ripped out of socket in a fight with James Neal, and he never looked the same really. During those 32 games he was hands down our best player. Even over Nash. Showed heart, and creativity that we had hoped for.

Since then, it's been a different story. He's hinted at being the player that we saw, but couldn't keep it together. Was in Hitch's doghouse, and couldn't put up anything offensively. Hitch got fired, and Claude Noel stepped in as interim coach. Brassard's game took off under Noel. He was everywhere. Then we let go of Noel in lieu of Scott Arniel. Brassard disappeared again under Arniel, and subsequently was in another coach's doghouse. Arniel was replaced with Richards at the halfway point last year, and Brassard ended the season once again picking up his play. IIRC he recorded 29 points in his final 33 games.

So you can see how he can be a maddening player for fans. Oozes skill, but only would show up in that way every now and then, and doesn't really bring much in other facets of the games. His spikes in production came at the end of two different seasons while in the midst of two coaching changes. Enigmatic to say the least. This season he has merely been serviceable, not reaching the point production levels that we've seen, yet not in the doghouse while being a good teammate. He's a great guy, and I'm sad for him to go mostly because he seemed to want to be part of the culture change. Gave a very heartfelt interview at the end of our 2-1 OT win against Anaheim on Sunday, saying how much they wanted to get to the post-season. However, it seems like he will be a good fit in NY, and I was happy to see him have a big night tonight.

John Moore- Wonderful kid. Week to the day older than me, so for whatever reason I've always liked him. He's an intelligent person. Great at interviewing, and a very ernest and humble guy. You want players like Johnny to succeed. He has a great head on his shoulders.

He's as fluid of a skater as you'll see. He doesn't have the best mind for the game, so his skating ability really helps him. He has other great tools – he's a good passer and has improved his d-zone play leaps and bounds. He was touted as a smooth offensive defenseman early on, but he's turned his development into a capable puck mover who doesn't do much offensively, but is reliable in his own zone. Wish he would use his shot more, however. He won the hardest shot competition while he was in Kitchener (I believe he clocked in at 98 mph), but you wouldn't ever know that by watching him play because he's simply not a shooter, as nice as it was to see him score tonight.

All in all, he's a guy you want to do well, and he's got the tools and the mindset that a pro needs to be successful. Probably doesn't have top-pairing potential anymore, but certainly is a guy who won't hurt you on your 2nd pair.

Derek Dorsett- This was the biggest shocker. Half-expected Moore and Brassard to be on the move, as we have depth on defense and Brassard was simply expendable to upgrade our scoring. Dorsett on the other hand was one of the biggest locker room presences that our organization has ever had. Always played with heart, and ALWAYS stuck up for teammates. Developed a surprising scoring touch last season, and now has potential to hit 20 goals sometime in his career. It was such a shot to the gut when he went out for the season. Seemed like our team came together to win games for him in a way.

He will undoubtedly lead your team in PIMs when he returns, and could wear an "A". Our fans always thought that he took bone-headed penalties, which, yes he did, but it was always out of grit and will. He's a guy that will do anything to win, and is actually a very good penalty killer. Another guy who wanted to be here for the culture change, and it's sad to see him gone.

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A Little backround info from a Columbus fan: Thought this might be helpful.
Brassard- Taken 6th overall 2 GMs ago. Was a highly-touted, dynamic, high-scoring junior player. Expectations were high from the start. Played well in his time in the AHL, and gave a sense of his potential not just there, but in his rookie season that saw him post 25 points in 32 games at the NHL level. Got his shoulder ripped out of socket in a fight with James Neal, and he never looked the same really. During those 32 games he was hands down our best player. Even over Nash. Showed heart, and creativity that we had hoped for.

Since then, it's been a different story. He's hinted at being the player that we saw, but couldn't keep it together. Was in Hitch's doghouse, and couldn't put up anything offensively. Hitch got fired, and Claude Noel stepped in as interim coach. Brassard's game took off under Noel. He was everywhere. Then we let go of Noel in lieu of Scott Arniel. Brassard disappeared again under Arniel, and subsequently was in another coach's doghouse. Arniel was replaced with Richards at the halfway point last year, and Brassard ended the season once again picking up his play. IIRC he recorded 29 points in his final 33 games.

So you can see how he can be a maddening player for fans. Oozes skill, but only would show up in that way every now and then, and doesn't really bring much in other facets of the games. His spikes in production came at the end of two different seasons while in the midst of two coaching changes. Enigmatic to say the least. This season he has merely been serviceable, not reaching the point production levels that we've seen, yet not in the doghouse while being a good teammate. He's a great guy, and I'm sad for him to go mostly because he seemed to want to be part of the culture change. Gave a very heartfelt interview at the end of our 2-1 OT win against Anaheim on Sunday, saying how much they wanted to get to the post-season. However, it seems like he will be a good fit in NY, and I was happy to see him have a big night tonight.

John Moore- Wonderful kid. Week to the day older than me, so for whatever reason I've always liked him. He's an intelligent person. Great at interviewing, and a very ernest and humble guy. You want players like Johnny to succeed. He has a great head on his shoulders.

He's as fluid of a skater as you'll see. He doesn't have the best mind for the game, so his skating ability really helps him. He has other great tools – he's a good passer and has improved his d-zone play leaps and bounds. He was touted as a smooth offensive defenseman early on, but he's turned his development into a capable puck mover who doesn't do much offensively, but is reliable in his own zone. Wish he would use his shot more, however. He won the hardest shot competition while he was in Kitchener (I believe he clocked in at 98 mph), but you wouldn't ever know that by watching him play because he's simply not a shooter, as nice as it was to see him score tonight.

All in all, he's a guy you want to do well, and he's got the tools and the mindset that a pro needs to be successful. Probably doesn't have top-pairing potential anymore, but certainly is a guy who won't hurt you on your 2nd pair.

Derek Dorsett- This was the biggest shocker. Half-expected Moore and Brassard to be on the move, as we have depth on defense and Brassard was simply expendable to upgrade our scoring. Dorsett on the other hand was one of the biggest locker room presences that our organization has ever had. Always played with heart, and ALWAYS stuck up for teammates. Developed a surprising scoring touch last season, and now has potential to hit 20 goals sometime in his career. It was such a shot to the gut when he went out for the season. Seemed like our team came together to win games for him in a way.

He will undoubtedly lead your team in PIMs when he returns, and could wear an "A". Our fans always thought that he took bone-headed penalties, which, yes he did, but it was always out of grit and will. He's a guy that will do anything to win, and is actually a very good penalty killer. Another guy who wanted to be here for the culture change, and it's sad to see him gone.
Thanks for posting this. Pretty much bang on

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Fully expect Derek Dorsett to be a fan favorite in Madison Square Garden. He's not big, but his heart swells in the sweater. Tortorella ...
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... will love this guy, as long as he limits ill-advised penalties. But he's a fearless, tireless and relentless player. Will fight anybody.
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Last season, he pulled off a rare feat in the post-lockout NHL: 10+ goals and 200+ penalty minutes.
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Can't argue with this part of the deal, he'll be a good addition.

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Dorsett seems to be a player whose overall game is still evolving. He will put some points up and pk. In this respect he's capable of replacing Prust. Like Prust he'll fight anybody. When he was a Flame Prust attacked Steve McIntyre over a borderline dirty hit. No way was Brandon going to win that one but Prust always defended his teammates. Dorsett has that 'crazy' factor as well--couple years ago he instigated a fight with John Scott which is quite comical to watch as Derek's fist could barely reach Scott's jaw. Dorsett got pounded to the ice but he always shows up. Prust however is quite a bit better fighter than Dorsett.

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I'm very excited to get this guy back on the ice. This could really round out a sleeper deal for the Rangers. Lots of potential in all three players, but catching the upside of a player like Dorsett just adds so much to a teams effectiveness (Pruster). That's what the Rangers were looking for. They knew what they were doing in making Dorsett part of the package.

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If Dorsett can continue to develop and become this teams Chris Neil, which from watching him, is entirely possible, this is a HUGE win for this team.

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Rangers have definitely been too soft lately. Nice to have some rowdy players in the mix again. The Rangers always have better results with a bit more grit.

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So any word on what the Rangers medical staff has said about his clavicle? Timeframe for return to contact?

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So any word on what the Rangers medical staff has said about his clavicle? Timeframe for return to contact?
Nothing specifically regarding Dorsett but the typical recovery time can be anywhere from 6 to 16 weeks. He was injured early March. Last game of the regular season is April 27. About 8 weeks.

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So any word on what the Rangers medical staff has said about his clavicle? Timeframe for return to contact?
When asked about Dorsett in the post game presser, Tort's said he was " a ways away" and that that was the last he would have to say about it. Hopefully we can get him for the playoff's. That would be great.

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Dorsett taking on JOHN SCOTT. This guy has major ****ing balls.


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Dorsett taking on JOHN SCOTT. This guy has major ****ing balls.

He is Chris Neil crazy. I am going to love watching him play. I have wanted Neil for a long while.

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Pretty funny. Kinda reminded me of Ryan Hollweg there, but when it's Scott he's dealing with well....

Beans of Brass this guy has.

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This guy sure seems to get his ass handed to him a lot lol.
Not like he was fighting John Scott or anything...

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This guy sure seems to get his ass handed to him a lot lol.
yea.....i agree. He doesnt mind dropping the mitts......but he didnt really prevail in many of those fights ( and im not talking about the scott fight..that just takes balls....lol, or stupidity ). I will take his heart and willingness to fight, but i think he needs to to refine his fighting skills.

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A Little backround info from a Columbus fan: Thought this might be helpful.
Brassard- Taken 6th overall 2 GMs ago. Was a highly-touted, dynamic, high-scoring junior player. Expectations were high from the start. Played well in his time in the AHL, and gave a sense of his potential not just there, but in his rookie season that saw him post 25 points in 32 games at the NHL level. Got his shoulder ripped out of socket in a fight with James Neal, and he never looked the same really. During those 32 games he was hands down our best player. Even over Nash. Showed heart, and creativity that we had hoped for.

Since then, it's been a different story. He's hinted at being the player that we saw, but couldn't keep it together. Was in Hitch's doghouse, and couldn't put up anything offensively. Hitch got fired, and Claude Noel stepped in as interim coach. Brassard's game took off under Noel. He was everywhere. Then we let go of Noel in lieu of Scott Arniel. Brassard disappeared again under Arniel, and subsequently was in another coach's doghouse. Arniel was replaced with Richards at the halfway point last year, and Brassard ended the season once again picking up his play. IIRC he recorded 29 points in his final 33 games.

So you can see how he can be a maddening player for fans. Oozes skill, but only would show up in that way every now and then, and doesn't really bring much in other facets of the games. His spikes in production came at the end of two different seasons while in the midst of two coaching changes. Enigmatic to say the least. This season he has merely been serviceable, not reaching the point production levels that we've seen, yet not in the doghouse while being a good teammate. He's a great guy, and I'm sad for him to go mostly because he seemed to want to be part of the culture change. Gave a very heartfelt interview at the end of our 2-1 OT win against Anaheim on Sunday, saying how much they wanted to get to the post-season. However, it seems like he will be a good fit in NY, and I was happy to see him have a big night tonight.

John Moore- Wonderful kid. Week to the day older than me, so for whatever reason I've always liked him. He's an intelligent person. Great at interviewing, and a very ernest and humble guy. You want players like Johnny to succeed. He has a great head on his shoulders.

He's as fluid of a skater as you'll see. He doesn't have the best mind for the game, so his skating ability really helps him. He has other great tools – he's a good passer and has improved his d-zone play leaps and bounds. He was touted as a smooth offensive defenseman early on, but he's turned his development into a capable puck mover who doesn't do much offensively, but is reliable in his own zone. Wish he would use his shot more, however. He won the hardest shot competition while he was in Kitchener (I believe he clocked in at 98 mph), but you wouldn't ever know that by watching him play because he's simply not a shooter, as nice as it was to see him score tonight.

All in all, he's a guy you want to do well, and he's got the tools and the mindset that a pro needs to be successful. Probably doesn't have top-pairing potential anymore, but certainly is a guy who won't hurt you on your 2nd pair.

Derek Dorsett- This was the biggest shocker. Half-expected Moore and Brassard to be on the move, as we have depth on defense and Brassard was simply expendable to upgrade our scoring. Dorsett on the other hand was one of the biggest locker room presences that our organization has ever had. Always played with heart, and ALWAYS stuck up for teammates. Developed a surprising scoring touch last season, and now has potential to hit 20 goals sometime in his career. It was such a shot to the gut when he went out for the season. Seemed like our team came together to win games for him in a way.

He will undoubtedly lead your team in PIMs when he returns, and could wear an "A". Our fans always thought that he took bone-headed penalties, which, yes he did, but it was always out of grit and will. He's a guy that will do anything to win, and is actually a very good penalty killer. Another guy who wanted to be here for the culture change, and it's sad to see him gone.
Thanks a lot for this man. The more I look at this trade, the more I like it. I know I was ****ing pissed when I read on twitter that we traded Gabby, for players I barely heard of.

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As in the Brassard thread, here is the Columbus Dispatch grade for Dorsett concerning last season.

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Report Card: Dorsett
The latest in our post-season player report cards:

Derek Dorsett

Age: 25

Position: right wing

Contract status: Restricted free agent on July 1

Year in review: One could make a legitimate argument that Dorsett was the Blue Jackets MVP this season. Certainly, he was their most consistent performer within the confines of his game. … Dorsett fought, he hit hard and he forechecked like his hair was on fire. That’s to be expected. The 12 goals was a pleasant surprise. Dorsett goals in the junior ranks, but few expected it to translate at the next level. … Dorsett is the only player in franchise history to score 12 goals with 200-plus penalty minutes. He’s only the fifth different player to do it since the lockout. … Perfect timing for his breakout seasons, too. He’ll get a significant pay raise this summer, even as a restricted free agent. … Dorsett’s status has soared in the dressing room. It’s hard for young third- and fourth-liners to be outspoken in an NHL, but Dorsett is the most competitive player in the dressing room. The Jackets need him to be fearless and forceful in the room. … Don’t be surprised if Dorsett gets a permanent ‘A’ in 2012-13. It was kicked around at the end of last season … Dorsett has become a crowd favorite for the same reason Tyler Wright used to draw cheers in Nationwide Arena in the early 2000s. … Dorsett has seen significant time on the Blue Jackets’ third line the last two seasons, and, at first, seemed out of place. Now, not so much. With the goal production this season, he’s likely to stay put, or even move higher if the mix is right. … Dorsett was the butt of jokes in mid-February after taking on Chicago’s John Scott, who’s almost a foot taller than him. But it said a lot about Dorsett. The message was sent, not only to fans, but especially his teammates that he was willing to lay it all on the line at that point in the season. … Scary thought: where would the Blue Jackets have been this season without Dorsett? 10 wins? 12 wins? The way he plays forces teammates to keep up, lest they get embarrassed. ... Dorsett must continue to work on the cerebral aspects of the game, especially when it comes to taking penalties. He has to be smarter both in the offensive zone and during crucial moments of late games.

Grade: A

Career trajectory: Relentless overachiever
From here: http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/...r=2012&month=5

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Dorsett would have perfect for the game last night. Bullies don't like being bullied.

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i hope when hes ready to play between him and clowe, one of them finally pummels cooke and puts him through the boards or knocks his ass out..

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