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Flyers Acquire Steve Mason; have re-signed him to a 1-yr ($1.5m ext.), Apr. 8

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04-04-2013, 01:00 PM
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Steve Mason will sign 1 year deal with #Flyers very soon, his agent says.



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Mason close to one year extension with flyers
Homer did say he wanted to change his contract around a bit. Good to know though that we don't have to play Boosh/MFL this year or next year... unless injury...

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Steve Mason will sign 1 year deal with #Flyers very soon, his agent says.

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Mason close to one year extension with flyers
Interesting.

I am honestly surprised that Mason would agree to a lower salary now instead of testing the free agent market when he wasn't qualified.

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I disagree with your first paragraph. If Richards and Carter didn't go there would be zero chance of Bryz being here. Zip, zero and zilch. We couldn't afford it. Management may have been sore after the 2011 flop, but if there wasnt for the necessity to go find a number one goalie they wouldn't have moved them as quick...if at all.

All the rest about Bob is easily summed up in what I said, and I stand by it. I truly believe he has potential to be an upcoming elite. Anybody that watched the kid play his rookie season knew he had major, major potential off athleticism alone.

Yes hes weakness eventually stood out.
Yes he was a major contributor to why the 2011 ended the way it did.
But hes was a rookie. All things above you expect from a rookie.

All in all one can not look back through the evidence and deny that the cons of bringing Bryz to Philly easily have outweighed the pros.
Sorry for my delay in responding (stupid work!). The opening for signing Bryzgalov after Richards and Carter were traded does not equate to Richards and Carter being traded for the purpose of signing Bryz. This was the inference I took from your previous post.

On Bob, there was no question of his athleticism, nor of his work ethic (another thing I like about him). But the holes in his game had to be worked out for him to get to the next level, which he seems to have done. I'm taking you to task for stating that the forecast at the time of his rookie season was a potential elite. There were too many variables, and I think this is largely a matter of hindsight given how good he looks now.

It was a bad move. However, there was more to the picture than just Holmgren choosing Bryz over Bob.

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Interesting.

I am honestly surprised that Mason would agree to a lower salary now instead of testing the free agent market when he wasn't qualified.
Given how far his star has fallen, Mason could probably only reasonably expect a 1-year deal at a sharp salary cut, even on the open market, also given the names who will be available and the few teams in need of goaltending help. I'm hoping for a 1-year salary in the range of $1.7 million ... and please (to the CBA experts here) point out if the 100% RFA salary applies here or not, in which case .

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Steve Mason will sign 1 year deal with #Flyers very soon, his agent says.



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Mason close to one year extension with flyers
Is this an indication that Bryz won't by bought out this year?

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Given how far his star has fallen, Mason could probably only reasonably expect a 1-year deal at a sharp salary cut, even on the open market, also given the names who will be available and the few teams in need of goaltending help. I'm hoping for a 1-year salary in the range of $1.7 million ... and please (to the CBA experts here) point out if the 100% RFA salary applies here or not, in which case .
A goalie who over the past couple of seasons has a GAA around 3 and save %age around .900 should not expect to get any multi-year offers or anything over $1 million.

$1.7 is overpayment based on recent performance.

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A goalie who over the past couple of seasons has a GAA around 3 and save %age around .900 should not expect to get any multi-year offers or anything over $1 million.

$1.7 is overpayment based on recent performance.

Carchidi said he expects it to be 1 year, 2.75 million..

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Is this an indication that Bryz won't by bought out this year?
I wouldn't think so. If, say, Luongo is bought out by Vancouver and could be signed to a relatively inexpensive contract, I'm sure the Flyers would kick the tires.

I dont think Bryz would be bought out this summer unless the Flyers are sure they have a strong alternative; that's not Mason.

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Carchidi said he expects it to be 1 year, 2.75 million..
Holy ****. That better be wrong.

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Is this an indication that Bryz won't by bought out this year?
How is that any indication? If anything, it makes it more plausible I think.

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if the rumor is true and right now I am not buying it. having 8.5 million tied up in the goalie position isn't very smart with the cap going down.
Need to get a cap expert in this thread. I have questions about the tagging space issue.


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Carchidi said he expects it to be 1 year, 2.75 million..
Is that what Randy Miller hopes it is?

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The Flyers are going to extend Mason before watching him play for them? I would hope it's a two way contract because this guy hasn't played good AHL caliber goal for 3 years.

Mason has zero leverage and he is awful. WTF are the Flyers thinking?

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Carchidi said he expects it to be 1 year, 2.75 million..
better not be true

that's at least a million too much

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holmgren will soon reveal his secret goalie plan. he stashed sunshine in sweden and will bring him over next year as the flyers #1 goal tender

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This was the tweet ;@BroadStBull 27m
Look for Steve Mason to sign next week. My guess: 1 year for around $2.75M. #Flyers


It's just his guess, relax.

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Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 5m
Mason: "My job is to come in here + become the goaltender the organization believes I can be _ and that’s to be a No. 1 goaltender."#Flyers

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A goalie who over the past couple of seasons has a GAA around 3 and save %age around .900 should not expect to get any multi-year offers or anything over $1 million.

$1.7 is overpayment based on recent performance.
Based solely on his numbers, I agree. But Mason's leverage is the Flyers' apparent desire to have him on their squad next season. It's one thing to be tire-kicking numbers around with a FA's agent, but another with a player in-house who has an established salary / cap hit. Asking Mason to go from his current ($3.2 mil in actual salary) to $1 mil may be evidence-based, but would be a non-starter to resign him, IMHO.

And I feel good about being $1 mil below Professional Hockey Writer Sam Carchidi's estimate.

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I am guessing 1,8-2.4 Probably on the higher side of that. I am expecting around 2.2 honestly.

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Is this an indication that Bryz won't by bought out this year?
I would agree. The fact that they are looking to extend him for 1 year makes me think they want to see what they have in him but arent ready to buy into him and fully commit.

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How is that any indication? If anything, it makes it more plausible I think.
I think it means they will keep Bryz next year and see what they have in Mason. If Mason returns to form from a few years ago, they can buy out Bryz after next season and extend Mason for a few years.

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I would agree. The fact that they are looking to extend him for 1 year makes me think they want to see what they have in him but arent ready to buy into him and fully commit.


I think it means they will keep Bryz next year and see what they have in Mason. If Mason returns to form from a few years ago, they can buy out Bryz after next season and extend Mason for a few years.
I am hoping that what it means too. We don't have to use the amnesty buy out this year so I don't see any need to rush into it buying him out. Especially when right now buying him out would mean more or less hitching the wagon to a reclamation project who had 1 good year 5 season ago and has been pretty bad since then.

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holmgren will soon reveal his secret goalie plan. he stashed sunshine in sweden and will bring him over next year as the flyers #1 goal tender
I actually wouldn't be surprised if they signed sunshine.

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I am hoping that what it means too. We don't have to use the amnesty buy out this year so I don't see any need to rush into it buying him out. Especially when right now buying him out would mean more or less hitching the wagon to a reclamation project who had 1 good year 5 season ago and has been pretty bad since then.
Agreed. Buying him out this offseason without a legit option to take his place would be strictly an impulse thing. They would still have to pay him so why not let him stick around and if Mason works out or you're able to find a starter somewhere else then Bryz is your backup. Next season isnt the year we need to worry about the cap, it's the following season. It might actually be better to keep him around next season and then use some of his cap hit to supplement the guys we need to resign so we don't have extra cap space that would be too tempting for Homer to not use on somethign dumb.

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I think bryz gets one more year. Mason gets the opportunity to win out for a starting job.

True open competition; loser is gone.

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Here's Timmeh's article:

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Goalie Steve Mason says playing for the Flyers represents a new start for him after some tough recent years in Columbus.

General manager Paul Holmgren says Mason understand the need for him to fit into the Flyers' salary cap structure on his next contract (he will be a restricted free agent this summer) and a raise is not in the picture.

Anton Thun, who represents Mason, says his client understands both scenarios and will re-up on a new deal in the coming week before the Flyers would be forced to qualify him next summer at $3.2 million.

That means Mason will have to accept a pay cut from his current $2.9 million salary.

Thun, who also represents Flyers defenseman Oliver Lauridsen, met with Mason at the morning skate in Toronto and has already spoken with Holmgren on a new contract.

“I fully anticipate that we will have a contract extension in the next few days,” Thun said on Thursday. “There’s no doubt. I’ve been in this business 25 years. You don’t give up a third-round pick and Michael Leighton for three weeks of hockey.”

And Mason’s new deal?

“If Steve were not to sign till he got a qualifying offer, then [the Flyers would] have to offer $3.2 million. Unless he signed earlier. And he will sign earlier. This is a reset for Steve. We understand that. We’ve had numerous conversations about the opportunities that may exist for him to press that reset button somewhere else and Philly was at the top of his list.”
http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-phil...on-within-week

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Good story. Nice to hear that they understand the situation realistically.

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