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04-03-2013, 09:14 PM
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Bozak or Roy, PLEASE! Even better, BOTH! Oh and Iggy of course

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04-03-2013, 09:19 PM
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Why Flippula isn't a full time center, and also seems like a product of Zetterberg. I would go for Roy personally.
That's what they said about Hudler. Reuniting them on the same line would be sexy.

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Flipper. Horton. Rest are waste of space and cap.

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04-03-2013, 10:34 PM
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That's what they said about Hudler. Reuniting them on the same line would be sexy.
The difference is Flip is used in better situation and isn't stuck in the dog house like Hudler was. Personally I don't think Flippula is anything more than an average 2nd line center at best mean while I think Roy is above average and Weiss could be more in a better situation.

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04-03-2013, 10:37 PM
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With Kipper announcing his retirement, the Flames will have $29M in cap space. Obviously, some of that cap space will be taken up by either Ramo or Berra plus likely another goaltender.

My FA targets are:
- Jarome Iginla - 2 years, $10M. Bring the captain home (assuming he wants to come back).

- David Clarkson - 5 years, $22.5M. He's 29 years old, plays a solid two-way, gritty game, and has some skill.

- Raffi Torres - 1 year, $2M. Can be a 4th-line agitator.

- David Steckel - 1 year, $1M. Faceoff man.

- Mike Ribeiro - 3 years, $16.5M. He's older than Bozak and Roy, but he's closer to being a #1 centre than either of those 2 players and he might get similar money on a shorter term.

- Ryan O'Byrne - 2 years, $3M. Bottom-pairing defenceman with size and plays with a bit of sandpaper.

- Ray Emery - 2 years, $6M. I think he and Ramo would be a great tandem next year.

Hopefully the Flames land the #1 pick and they take Seth Jones.

Deal Stempniak and Cammalleri for picks at the draft or to move up in the draft.

Tanguay - Ribeiro - Iginla
Baertschi - Backlund - Clarkson
Glencross - Stajan - Hudler
Torres - Steckel - Jackman

Giordano - Jones
Butler - Wideman
Brodie - O'Byrne

Ramo
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04-03-2013, 11:13 PM
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With Kipper announcing his retirement, the Flames will have $29M in cap space. Obviously, some of that cap space will be taken up by either Ramo or Berra plus likely another goaltender.

My FA targets are:
- Jarome Iginla - 2 years, $10M. Bring the captain home (assuming he wants to come back).

- David Clarkson - 5 years, $22.5M. He's 29 years old, plays a solid two-way, gritty game, and has some skill.

- Raffi Torres - 1 year, $2M. Can be a 4th-line agitator.

- David Steckel - 1 year, $1M. Faceoff man.

- Mike Ribeiro - 3 years, $16.5M. He's older than Bozak and Roy, but he's closer to being a #1 centre than either of those 2 players and he might get similar money on a shorter term.

- Ryan O'Byrne - 2 years, $3M. Bottom-pairing defenceman with size and plays with a bit of sandpaper.

- Ray Emery - 2 years, $6M. I think he and Ramo would be a great tandem next year.

Hopefully the Flames land the #1 pick and they take Seth Jones.

Deal Stempniak and Cammalleri for picks at the draft or to move up in the draft.

Tanguay - Ribeiro - Iginla
Baertschi - Backlund - Clarkson
Glencross - Stajan - Hudler
Torres - Steckel - Jackman

Giordano - Jones
Butler - Wideman
Brodie - O'Byrne

Ramo
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You misspelled Nathan Mackinnon.

I don't want to see anyone north if 30 added to this team in the next 5 years apart from Iggy.

Ideally next year.


Tanguay - Backlund - Iginla
Baertschi - Mackinnon - 2013 1st Rounder/Horak
Glencross - Stajan - Hudler
McGrattan - Begin - Jackman

Giordano - 1st round 2013
Butler - Wideman
Brodie - Hanowski

Ramo
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04-03-2013, 11:41 PM
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Tanguay Mackinnon Iginla
Baertschi Backlund Cammy
Glencross Hudler Clarkson*
BmaC Steckle* Jackman/Horak/Cooke*

Giordano Brodie
Wideman Ference*
Obyrne* Butler

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04-04-2013, 12:29 AM
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I just want to make sure we have the toughest line-up to protect Baertschi, Brodie, Backlund, and whoever else we draft (MacKinnon.. Jones can take care of himself). Re-up Gratz.. Sign Andrew Ference, Doug Murry, Raffi Torres.

If we're gonna lose/rebuild, I at least want to see us hit/beat the **** out of the opponent most nights.

Gio - Brodie
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With Kipper announcing his retirement, the Flames will have $29M in cap space. Obviously, some of that cap space will be taken up by either Ramo or Berra plus likely another goaltender.

My FA targets are:
- Jarome Iginla - 2 years, $10M. Bring the captain home (assuming he wants to come back).

- David Clarkson - 5 years, $22.5M. He's 29 years old, plays a solid two-way, gritty game, and has some skill.

- Raffi Torres - 1 year, $2M. Can be a 4th-line agitator.

- David Steckel - 1 year, $1M. Faceoff man.

- Mike Ribeiro - 3 years, $16.5M. He's older than Bozak and Roy, but he's closer to being a #1 centre than either of those 2 players and he might get similar money on a shorter term.

- Ryan O'Byrne - 2 years, $3M. Bottom-pairing defenceman with size and plays with a bit of sandpaper.

- Ray Emery - 2 years, $6M. I think he and Ramo would be a great tandem next year.

Hopefully the Flames land the #1 pick and they take Seth Jones.

Deal Stempniak and Cammalleri for picks at the draft or to move up in the draft.

Tanguay - Ribeiro - Iginla
Baertschi - Backlund - Clarkson
Glencross - Stajan - Hudler
Torres - Steckel - Jackman

Giordano - Jones
Butler - Wideman
Brodie - O'Byrne

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Really? You would be willing to pay a 4th liner $2M?

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04-04-2013, 01:20 AM
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Really? You would be willing to pay a 4th liner $2M?
Glad you liked the avatar so much...

Anyways, I'd like to see Prust getting paid that much, but not Torres.

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04-04-2013, 06:46 AM
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We definitely need help on D. Whether that is through FA or via Trade.

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04-04-2013, 10:30 AM
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Filpulla and Horton are who we have to target.

Roy or ribero we should try for one...

And we should do just about anything to target a good D-Man via trade cause we're so boned on the back end right now.

Then play mackinnon lots with baert.

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In my drunken stupor last night (Asprin ftw) I may have posted "Streit is a UFA." If I didn't: Streit is a UFA.

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04-04-2013, 10:50 AM
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Not sure why filp would leave Detroit given his playing situation and come to Calgary...

Horton is overrated. If anything we need Weiss and clarkson, but he and Lou have a good relationship so he'll re-sign.

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Not sure why filp would leave Detroit given his playing situation and come to Calgary...

Horton is overrated. If anything we need Weiss and clarkson, but he and Lou have a good relationship so he'll re-sign.
Depends on what you think he is, I see him as a 20+ goal scoring 2nd liner that can play physically and be intimidating. I wouldn't mind Clarkson he is basically a poor mans GlenX.

I would love to get Roy/Wiess and 2 of Horton/Clarkson/Clowe and Murray and move Cammy + Bryon/Nemisz for Michalek (D) + Runblad/Goncharov

Tangs - Weiss - Horton
Hudler - Backlund - Stempniak
GlenX - Stajan - Clarkson
Aliu - Bomua - McGrattan

Brodie - Michalek
Gio - Wideman
Murray - Butler

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People do realize the only way we're gonna get any UFA's this summer is via overpayment right?

That being said, these are the guys I like. I don't want to rush any guys that aren't ready.

Ryder
Iggy
Bozak
Weiss (doubt he goes to another rebuilding team)
Riberio (wants 5 plus years, again doubtful going to a rebuild)
Roy
Raymond (local boy!)
MacArthur
Bickell
Stalberg
Filpula
Latendresse
Nystrom (never wanted him to leave)

In my opinion this years UFA defense crop under 34ish is atrocious. If we want to upgrade the D it's gonna have to be via trade.

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NJ re-signs Clarkson for sure, otherwise I'd be glad to pay him.
I don't like Ribeiro but I agree we need a C, I'd rather take my chances with Bozak and hope he and Backlund can handle the top 6.
Stalberg and any other half decent UFA D-men because our D is incredibly thin.
Maybe Bickell, and Raymond.

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I'd love to see us get Torres, imagine a fourth line of Torres-Begin-Mcgrattan. The one thing I'd be worried about Weiss is our bad luck of taking Florida's top players and turning them into mediocre players, aka Bouwmeester, and Olli.

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NJ re-signs Clarkson for sure, otherwise I'd be glad to pay him.
I don't like Ribeiro but I agree we need a C, I'd rather take my chances with Bozak and hope he and Backlund can handle the top 6.
Stalberg and any other half decent UFA D-men because our D is incredibly thin.
Maybe Bickell, and Raymond.
According to Mckenzie, the Clarkson camp and the NJD have not even talked about an extension.

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Filpula and Clarkson. I'd also take Nystrom back, he's a good character guy and would be a good bottom 6 addition during a rebuild.

Does anyone want Cervenka back? I do..

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I'd love to see us get Torres, imagine a fourth line of Torres-Begin-Mcgrattan. The one thing I'd be worried about Weiss is our bad luck of taking Florida's top players and turning them into mediocre players, aka Bouwmeester, and Olli.
Olli was losing his touch before he came here, not to mention we got him (directly) from Phoenix.

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Filpula and Clarkson. I'd also take Nystrom back, he's a good character guy and would be a good bottom 6 addition during a rebuild.

Does anyone want Cervenka back? I do..
Depends on who gets to UFA and who we draft, if get a big physical center that can play next year then yes and have Hudler and Cervenka play with him. (Ideally Barkov but he has military service) but
Hudler - Barkov - Cervenka could be a real good line.

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The Flames should, above all else, target size and grit in free agency. That's why I'd go with Ribeiro over Weiss and throw everything at Clarkson (if he makes to FA) or Horton. For smaller acquisitions, someone like Petteri Nokelainen (27 year old centre who's good at faceoffs), Matt Hendricks or Eric Nystrom.

I don't have a problem with Cervenka, but I don't see a place for him at wing going forward. Not unless one of Tanguay or Cammalleri are moved. He's too much of a redundant piece with Hudler, Baertschi, Tanguay and Cammalleri already on the wings.

And if the Flames hope to be even remotely respectable next season, they'd be wise to trade for a top-four defensive defensemen.

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The Flames should, above all else, target size and grit in free agency. That's why I'd go with Ribeiro over Weiss and throw everything at Clarkson (if he makes to FA) or Horton. For smaller acquisitions, someone like Petteri Nokelainen (27 year old centre who's good at faceoffs), Matt Hendricks or Eric Nystrom.

And if the Flames hope to be even remotely respectable next season, they'd be wise to trade for a top-four defensive defensemen.
What do you think of Michalek from PHX? Maybe something around him for Cammy could work for both teams. PHX gets their offensive player and Calgary gets a top 4 defenseman.

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What do you think of Michalek from PHX? Maybe something around him for Cammy could work for both teams. PHX gets their offensive player and Calgary gets a top 4 defenseman.
I would definitely do that. Michalek would be a very solid acquisition for the top-four.

But odds are Cammalleri has Phoenix on his NTC list. And who knows what happens with them with regards to relocation/ownership. Oh and Cammalleri's real salary is 7M next season, so unless the Phoenix situation is resolved, they'd definitely ask the Flames to retain some salary and we know that won't happen.

I could see them going after someone like Volchenkov off of the Devils if they're looking to move him.

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