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04-04-2013, 12:55 AM
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ATD 2013 Summary

As per tradition. Based on comments, I've changed biggest steal and reach to biggest steal(s) and reach(es) of the draft, and split favorite line of the draft

Cut and paste and voice your opinion.

Biggest Steal(s) of the draft
Biggest Reach(es) of the draft
Smartest/best strategic pick in the draft
Biggest blunder selection of the draft
A Player finally getting respect in the draft
A player always taken too high, finally getting picked where he should in the draft
A player you've discovered in this draft
Most underrated player taken
Most overrated player taken
Favorite scoring line of the draft
Favorite checking line of the draft
Best assembled line of the draft
Worst assembled line of the draft
Favorite pairing of defensemen
Most puzzling pairing of defensemen
Team in the other conference it'd be interesting to meet in the finals
Team in the other conference you wouldn't want to meet in the finals
A funny/dramatic story (related to the ATD) you've learned about since the start of the draft

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Best selection: You cannot vote for players you own
1st round:
2nd round:
3rd round:
4th round:
5th round:
6th round:
7th round:
8th round:
9th round:
10th round:
11th round:
12nd round:
13th round:
14th round:
15th round:
16th round:
17th round:
18th round:
19th round:
20th round:
21st round:
22nd round:
23th round:
24th round:
25th round:

'Worst' Selection
1st round:
2nd round:
3rd round:
4th round:
5th round:
6th round:
7th round:
8th round:
9th round:
10th round:
11th round:
12nd round:
13th round:
14th round:
15th round:
16th round:
17th round:
18th round:
19th round:
20th round:
21st round:
22nd round:
23th round:
24th round:
25th round:


Also, feel free to add any other comments or reflections about your experience/team this year.

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I'm glad my little idea is now an ATD tradition


Biggest Steal(s) of the draft Sergei Makarov, Bobby Rowe
Biggest Reach(es) of the draft Scort Stevens, Punch Broadbent
Smartest/best strategic pick in the draft VanI picking Weiland & Aurie back-to-back to reunite them with Lewis
Biggest blunder selection of the draft Punch Imlach, when already having Frank Mahovlich on your team
A Player finally getting respect in the draft We talked alot about Neil Colville, hopefully he will come back in the top-300 like he used to be
A player always taken too high, finally getting picked where he should in the draft Kevin Stevens
A player you've discovered in this draft Bobby Gould
Most underrated player taken Vladimir Vikulov
Most overrated player taken Outside the usual suspect, I will throw Lanny McDonald, whom I never understand why he's always taken in the top-200 (at 216, first time I remember him outside 200)
Favorite scoring line of the draft Michel Goulet - Wayne Gretzky - Bernie Geoffrion. Everyone picked Jari Kurri over Bernard Geoffrion to play with Gretzky. For years, I wanted Geoffrion to play with Gretzky. Kudos!
Favorite checking line of the draft Bob Pulford - Ralph Backstrom - Claude Provost
Best assembled line of the draft Bert Olmstead - Jean Beliveau - Andy Bathgate
Worst assembled line of the draft Nick Metz - Evgeni Malkin - Boris Mayorov
Favorite pairing of defensemen Valeri Vasiliev -Guy Lapointe
Most puzzling pairing of defensemen Red Kelly - Ken Reardon
Team in the other conference it'd be interesting to meet in the finals PITTSBURGH BANKERS, it would be a very nice serie to watch
Team in the other conference you wouldn't want to meet in the finals Canadiens & Trail Smoke
A funny/dramatic story (related to the ATD) you've learned about since the start of the draft None come to mind, I'll edit later

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Best selection: You cannot vote for players you own
1st round: Patrick Roy (25)
2nd round: Frank Boucher (56)
3rd round: Sergei Makarov (71)
4th round: Frank Brimsek (101)
5th round: Nels Stewart (155)
6th round: Babe Dye (192)
7th round: Vladimir Krutov (206)
8th round: Cecil Dillon (254)
9th round: Jean-Guy Talbot (269)
10th round: Ralph Backstrom (300)
11th round: Neil Colville
12nd round: Milan Novy
13th round: Reggie Leach
14th round: Tod Sloan
15th round: Mats Naslund
16th round: Vladimir Vikulov
17th round: Marty Walsh
18th round: Sergei Kapustin, Rogatien Vachon
19th round: Bobby Rowe, Camille Henry
20th round: Bob Davidson
21st round: Al Rollins
22nd round: Tommy Anderson
23th round: Barney Stanley
24th round: Vsevolod Bobrov
25th round: Lorne Carr

'Worst' Selection
1st round: Scott Stevens (21), Nicklas Lidstrom (7)
2nd round: Al MacInnis (40)
3rd round: Guy Lapointe (68)
4th round: Punch Broadbent (128)
5th round: Vladimir Konstantinov (149)
6th round: Clark Gilles (174)
7th round: Bun Cook (199)
8th round: Esa Tikkanen (243)
9th round: Frank McGee (276)
10th round: Rick Tocchet (310), Wendel Clark (320)
11th round: Shea Weber
12nd round: Steven Stamkos
13th round: Reijo Ruotsalainen
14th round: Keith Magnuson
15th round: Dion Phaneuf
16th round: Kris Draper, Metro Prystai
17th round: Kelly Miller
18th round: Gregg Sheppard
19th round: Ian Turnbull
20th round: Mike Keenan, coach
21st round: Tomas Holmstrom
22nd round: Sami Pahlsson
23th round: Erik Karlsson
24th round: Jiri Sejba (who?)
25th round: Göran Högosta (who?), Georges Laraque

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Biggest Steal(s) of the draft - Bain outside of the top-500 is just wrong
Biggest Reach(es) of the draft - Lidstrom at 7th overall (Before Shore, Hull and a half dozen others? Really? Jagr, Hasek and Lafleur are greater, don't most of us think? The Lids love gone out of control)
Smartest/best strategic pick in the draft - Moog as Fuhr's backup
Biggest blunder selection of the draft - Oatman as a first liner?
A Player finally getting respect in the draft - Harris
A player always taken too high, finally getting picked where he should in the draft - Bobrov at 738th in the 24th round, extra skater (sounds about right)
A player you've discovered in this draft -Sandlin
Most underrated player taken - Irvin
Most overrated player taken - Konstantinov
Favorite line of the draft - Syd Howe - Darryl Sittler - Dino Ciccarelli
Favorite checking line of the draft - Bob Gainey-Guy Carbonneau-Bobby Schmautz
Best assembled line of the draft - Bert Olmstead - Jean Beliveau (C) - Andy Bathgate
Worst assembled line of the draft - Mike McPhee - Bobby Holik - Anders Hedberg
Favorite pairing of defensemen - Gary Suter - Ken Morrow
Most puzzling pairing of defensemen -Scott Stevens - Vladimir Konstantinov
Team in the other conference it'd be interesting to meet in the finals - Guelph Platers
Team in the other conference you wouldn't want to meet in the finals - Pittsburgh Bankers
A funny/dramatic story (related to the ATD) you've learned about since the start of the draft - Gerard beat up coach Ross (hospitalized him even) after the latter hit some other guy by mistake, as told in Conn Smythe's autobiography.
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Best selection: You cannot vote for players you own
1st round: Sawchuk, 31st overall
2nd round: Hall, 42nd overall
3rd round: Malone, 83rd overall
4th round: Jackson
5th round: Cournoyer
6th round: Vezina
7th round: Pitre
8th round: Hossa
9th round: Yakushev
10th round: Ciccarelli
11th round: Smith
12nd round: Gottselig
13th round: Tarasov
14th round: Smith
15th round: Hitchcock
16th round: Bain
17th round: Walsh
18th round: LeSueur
19th round: Houle
20th round: Irvin
21st round: Burch
22nd round: Reay
23th round: Moran
24th round: Trihey
25th round: Gusev

'Worst' Selection
1st round: Stevens, 21st overall
2nd round: Clancy, 46th overall
3rd round: Lapointe, 68th overall
4th round: Blake
5th round: Konstantinov
6th round: Gilles
7th round: Stanley
8th round: Tikkanen (and I LOVED the guy!!!)
9th round: Crawford
10th round: Patrick
11th round: Beck
12nd round: Otto
13th round: Ivanov
14th round: Sjoberg
15th round: Phaneuf
16th round: Joseph
17th round: Iafrate
18th round: Morrow
19th round: a weak round (so many)
20th round: Liba
21st round: Babich
22nd round: Giguere
23th round: Karlsson
24th round: Sejba
25th round: Högosta

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Most puzzling pairing of defensemen Red Kelly - Ken Reardon


Don't worry about those two, Kelly will be paired with either Grant or Tsykangov and Reardon will anchor our 2nd pairing.


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'Worst' Selection
20th round: Liba
Really? Did you read my bio on him?

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Biggest Steal(s) of the draft: Maltsev at 143, Cowley at 153, Stewart at 155, Vezina at 172, Schriner at 187. Great value from players who fell due to the insane runs on defensemen
Biggest Reach(es) of the draft: Cam Neely, Gary Roberts, and Wendel Clark go too early every draft. Andrew Ladd and Georges Laraque were just bad picks.
Smartest/best strategic pick in the draft: Reuniting real life lines and pairings is too easy. I'll say it was when Edmonton picked Camille Henry for their PP, addressing their biggest team weakness to that point.
Biggest blunder selection of the draft: Reds4Life selecting a total unknown as his backup when he has probably the weakest starter in the draft
A Player finally getting respect in the draft: Georges Vezina, it seems. One draft too late
A player always taken too high, finally getting picked where he should in the draft: Nice to see Yvan Cournoyer and Tim Kerr fall
A player you've discovered in this draft: Igor Liba, I had no idea who he was before a few months ago
Most underrated player taken: I don't know, probably one of the non-NHL Euros, maybe Sergei Kapustin?
Most overrated player taken: By constant draft position, it's Wendel Clark. By the comments of some other smart GMs, it's Tom Paton
Favorite scoring line of the draft: Busher Jackson - Frank Boucher - Boris Mikhailov
Favorite checking line of the draft: Bob Pulford - Ralph Backstrom - Claude Provost (surprised anyone picked anything different)
Best assembled line of the draft: Bobby Hull - Sergei Fedorov (A) - Theo Fleury
Worst assembled line of the draft: There are no real stinkers this time, well done guys. Scanning the rosters though, I really have no idea what Vic Hadfield is supposed to be doing next to Dave Keon and Ed Litzenberger
Favorite pairing of defensemen: Hod Stuart - Earl Seibert or Ray Bourque - Art Coulter
Most puzzling pairing of defensemen: Viacheslav Fetisov-Paul Reinhart
Team in the other conference it'd be interesting to meet in the finals: It could be fun to face Minnesota due to the complete contrast of style.
Team in the other conference you wouldn't want to meet in the finals: Dawson City, I really don't feel like dealing with Bobby Orr again.
A funny/dramatic story (related to the ATD) you've learned about since the start of the draft: Maybe it was a big story in Canada, but I honestly didn't know the Soviet authorities bribed international refs with vodka and prostitutes before games until I read the article on the Summit Series.

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Best selection: You cannot vote for players you own
1st round: Maurice Richard at 13
2nd round: Henri Richard at 64
3rd round: Sergei Makarov at 71
4th round: Busher Jackson at 115 (seems like he's the end of a tier of LWs)
5th round: Maltsev at 143, Cowley at 153, Stewart at 155. The round of steals!
6th round: Georges Vezina at 172, Sweeney Schriner at 187
7th round: Allan Stanley at 195 (suck it, sturm), Art Ross at 213
8th round: Baldy Northcott at 252
9th round: Jack Crawford at 268, Gus Mortson at 277, Bullet Joe Simpson at 287
10th round: Danny Heatley at 298
11th round: George Hay at 338, Barry Beck at 348
12nd round: Svedberg at 355, Drillion at 361 (in a vacuum at least), Gottselig at 373
13th round: Jiri Holik at 413
14th round:
15th round: Hap Day (coach) at 470
16th round: Vladimir Vikulov at 486
17th round: Red Sullivan at 530 (you lucky bastids!)
18th round: Sergei Kapustin at 568
19th round: Bobby Rowe at 585
20th round: Bob Davidson at 637
21st round: Lynn Patrick at 669
22nd round: Wade Redden at 693
23th round: Paddy Moran at 729
24th round: Brian Campbell at 765
25th round: Slava Bykov at 800

'Worst' Selection
1st round: I'm not going to pile on Scott Stevens, so I'll say that while I understand wanting to start with a center, I would never pick Mikita over Hull or Richard
2nd round:
3rd round: Cam Neely at 85
4th round: Punch Broadbent at 128
5th round: Vladimir Konstantionv at 149
6th round: Billy Smith at 186
7th round: Wayne Cashman at 219
8th round: Gary Roberts at 246, Alex Mogilny at 253
9th round: Jean-Guy Talbot at 269
10th round: Wendel Clark at 320
11th round: Brian Rafalski at 327, Bert Corbeau at 337
12nd round: Rick Nash at 368
13th round: Reijo Ruotsalinen at 411
14th round:
15th round: Ken Daneyko at 462 (I love him, but he's so one-dimensional)
16th round: Craig MacTavish at 493
17th round: Kelly Miller at 529
18th round:
19th round: Ian Turnbull at 583
20th round:
21st round: Tomas Holmstrom at 651 (worthless if you aren't using him on the PP)
22nd round: Marc Andre Fleury at 701
23th round: Kirk Maltby at 733
24th round: Andrew Ladd at 765
25th round: Georges Laraque at 777,


Also, feel free to add any other comments or reflections about your experience/team this year.[/QUOTE]


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'Worst' Selection
1st round: I'm not going to pile on Scott Stevens, so I'll say that while I understand wanting to start with a center, I would never pick Mikita over Hull or Richard
2nd round:
3rd round: Cam Neely at 85
4th round: Punch Broadbent at 128
5th round: Vladimir Konstantionv at 149
6th round: Billy Smith at 186
7th round: Wayne Cashman at 219
8th round: Gary Roberts at 246, Alex Mogilny at 253
9th round: Jean-Guy Talbot at 269
10th round: Wendel Clark at 320
11th round: Brian Rafalski at 327, Bert Corbeau at 337
12nd round: Rick Nash at 368
13th round: Reijo Ruotsalinen at 411
14th round:
15th round: Ken Daneyko at 462 (I love him, but he's so one-dimensional)
16th round: Craig MacTavish at 493
17th round: Kelly Miller at 529
18th round:
19th round: Ian Turnbull at 583
20th round:
21st round: Tomas Holmstrom at 651 (worthless if you aren't using him on the PP)
22nd round: Marc Andre Fleury at 701
23th round: Kirk Maltby at 733
24th round: Andrew Ladd at 765
25th round: Georges Laraque at 777,


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So basically a good chunk of my team? Sheesh.. glad I had at least one steal in there too.

I swear to god every other post in this is comparing bargain basement or poor #4's or whatever to someone on my team.

I really don't think my team is that bad at all.

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So basically a good chunk of my team? Sheesh.. glad I had at least one steal in there too.

I swear to god every other post in this is comparing bargain basement or poor #4's or whatever to someone on my team.

I really don't think my team is that bad at all.
I don't think your team is bad at all despite what IMO were some questionable picks. And I don't know, maybe I have trouble objectively evaluating Rick Nash in an all-time sense, because I think he's been the most overrated player in the NHL for a long time. It's funny/sad seeing Wayne Cashman less than 70 spots after Nels Stewart!

Edit: You seem to agree that you took Corbeau too high. And Kelly Miller.... meh, I just don't see what makes him a special player. Good team penalty killing stats, but I don't think he got much individual recognition for it.


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I don't think your team is bad at all despite what IMO were some questionable picks. And I don't know, maybe I have trouble objectively evaluating Rick Nash in an all-time sense, because I think he's been the most overrated player in the NHL for a long time. It's funny/sad seeing Wayne Cashman less than 70 spots after Nels Stewart!
Well I admit I overrated Bert Corbeau based on his bio.

And Cashman was drafted specifically to be wingman to Stewart so he is higher than he should be otherwise too.

Nash was drafted for his fit and goalscoring bias..

I guess most of my "poor" picks are based on fit more than my overrating them, really.

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funny to see guys on the "best picks" of some lists and "worst picks" of others

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I gotta stop picking Broadbent so early, I realize this.

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I gotta stop picking Broadbent so early, I realize this.
Haha, the funny thing is it seems you pick him sooner & sooner every year! He's got throng of intangibles, but he's not Top-200 material IMO. I'm still unsure just how far he should fall, but outside the 100's would be a good start.

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Biggest Steal(s) of the draft: Alexander Maltsev [143], Sweeney Schriner [187]
Biggest Reach(es) of the draft: Punch Broadbent [128] - this guy to Modo is like Gainey to Murphy, who used to pick old Bob in the 3rd round every year, in spite of the fact that no one else would have even thought about him for at least another hundred picks.
Smartest/best strategic pick in the draft: Not a pick, but I thought Raptor picking up Emile Francis was a very good move. The Cat is an underrated hockey mind around these parts.
Biggest blunder selection of the draft: Imlach
A Player finally getting respect in the draft: Rod Brind'Amour
A player always taken too high, finally getting picked where he should in the draft: Steve Shutt
A player you've discovered in this draft: Red Sullivan - I already knew he existed, but had no idea what a good all-around player he was
Most underrated player taken: Vladimir Vikulov
Most overrated player taken Syl Apps Sr
Favorite scoring line of the draft Olmstead - Beliveau - Bathgate
Favorite checking line of the draft Pulford - Backstrom - Provost
Best assembled line of the draft Pavelich - Goyette - Dillon - I think this is a terribly underrated unit, and an excellent two-way 3rd line
Worst assembled line of the draft Metz - Malkin - Mayorov
Favorite pairing of defensemen Horton - Suchy
Most puzzling pairing of defensemen Carlyle - Weber
Team in the other conference it'd be interesting to meet in the finals Mystery - Tarasov's east-west vs. Gorman's north-south would be epic
Team in the other conference you wouldn't want to meet in the finals Pittsburgh AC
A funny/dramatic story (related to the ATD) you've learned about since the start of the draft Neil Colville and the other Rangers trolling Phil Watson.

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Best selection:
1st round: Eddie Shore [11]
2nd round: Frank Nighbor [36]
3rd round: Joe Malone [86] - see the Dirt thread
4th round: Jarome Iginla [111]
5th round: Alexander Maltsev [143]
6th round: Sweeney Schriner [187]
7th round: Mark Recchi [211]
8th round: Rod Brind'Amour [240]
9th round: "Bullet" Joe Simpson [287]
10th round: Bob Goldham [303]
11th round: Dave Taylor [345]
12nd round: Milan Novy [357]
13th round: Ron Ellis [408]
14th round: Gennady Tsygankov [420]
15th round: Duncan Keith[456]
16th round: Vladimir Vikulov [486]
17th round: Red Sullivan [530]
18th round: Jimmy Ward [571]
19th round: Camille Henry [589]
20th round: Igor Liba [629]
21st round: Ed Sandford [668]
22nd round: Alex Tanguay [704]
23th round: Jiri Kralik [732]
24th round: Tomas Vokoun [748]
25th round: Andrei Khomutov [770]

'Worst' Selection
1st round: Scott Stevens [21]
2nd round: Syl Apps Sr [54]
3rd round: Sidney Crosby [75]
4th round: Punch Broadbent [128]
5th round: Vladimir Konstantinov [149]
6th round: Clark Gilles [174]
7th round: Vladimir Krutov [206]
8th round: Esa Tikkanen [243]
9th round: Frank McGee [276]
10th round: Wendel Clark [320]
11th round: Bert Corbeau [337]
12nd round: Rene Robert [378]
13th round: Reggie Leach [385]
14th round: Vic Hadfield [446]
15th round: Ken Daneyko [462]
16th round: Kris Draper [510]
17th round: Larry Robinson [520]
18th round: Andrei Markov [562]
19th round: Corey Perry [608]
20th round:
21st round:
22nd round: Marc Andre Fleury [701]
23th round: Erik Karlsson [715]
24th round: Andrew Ladd [765]
25th round: Lubomir Visnovsky [787]

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Biggest Steal(s) of the draft: Cowley, Barry, Vezina, Schriner
Biggest Reach(es) of the draft: Lidstrom, Stevens, Neely, Broadbent
Smartest/best strategic pick in the draft: Would have to agree selecting Camille Henry as a PP specialist
Biggest blunder selection of the draft: Benny Woit, uncontested besides maybe Georges Laraque
A Player finally getting respect in the draft: Sweeney Schriner, who I hoped to had steal a couple picks later. VsX definitely improved his standing.
A player always taken too high, finally getting picked where he should in the draft: Tim Kerr
A player you've discovered in this draft: Bob Armstrong
Most underrated player taken: Percy LeSueur
Most overrated player taken: Balderis, IMO
Favorite scoring line of the draft: Olmstead - Beliveau - Bathgate, this line works.
Favorite checking line of the draft: Pulford - Backstrom - Provost, or Gainey - Carbonneau - Schmautz
Best assembled line of the draft: Martin - Messier - Cook
Worst assembled line of the draft: Nilsson - Staal - Nolan, lots of talent, but no composure.
Favorite pairing of defensemen: Langway - Robinson
Most puzzling pairing of defensemen: Fetisov - Reinhart
Team in the other conference it'd be interesting to meet in the finals: Seattle Eskimos
Team in the other conference you wouldn't want to meet in the finals: Pittsburgh Athletic Club (strong contender) or Quebec Nordiques (shutdown physicality team)
A funny/dramatic story (related to the ATD) you've learned about since the start of the draft: Can't really pick one out.

Best selection: You cannot vote for players you own
1st round: Roy
2nd round: Lalonde
3rd round: Makarov
4th round: Jackson
5th round: Cowley
6th round: Barry
7th round: Krutov
8th round: Dunderdale
9th round: Ramsay
10th round: Roenick
11th round: McKenney
12nd round: Drillon
13th round: Shero
14th round: Barasso
15th round: Primeau
16th round: Bain
17th round: Weight, Seiling
18th round: LeSueur, *Bill Thomas
19th round: Houle
20th round: Irvin, Liba
21st round: March
22nd round: Hern
23th round: McVeigh
24th round: Bobrov
25th round: Bykov

'Worst' Selection
1st round: Stevens
2nd round: Mahovlich
3rd round: Neely
4th round: Broadbent
5th round: Konstantinov
6th round: Gillies
7th round: McDonald
8th round: Tikkanen
9th round: Boivin
10th round: Clark
11th round: Corbeau
12nd round: Sologubov
13th round: Reinhart
14th round: Leduc
15th round: Daneyko
16th round: Baker
17th round: Thomas, Miller
18th round: Kurtenbach
19th round: Huddy
20th round: Tortorella
21st round: J. Laviolette
22nd round: Quenneville
23th round: Karlsson
24th round: Sejba
25th round: Woit

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Biggest Reach(es) of the draft - Stamkos, Karlsson
Biggest blunder selection of the draft - Punch Imlach coaching the Big M.
A player always taken too high, finally getting picked where he should in the draft - Doug Jarvis - Pick 334. Went 265 last year. Doesn't seem too high for 964 consecutive games played. Tough for your opponent to play the injury card with Jarvis.
Most overrated player taken - Tie - Bad Joe Hall and Terrible Ted Green are not top 310 players. There were more skilled dmen available such as Leo Reise, Jr. and Frank Patrick who also create less PPs for the other team.
Most puzzling pairing of defensemen - Dave Burrows - Ted Green - Who's the puck mover?
A funny/dramatic story you've learned about since the start of the draft - Mark Howe admits Gordie was a dirty player. I like this, because Gordie is the dirtiest player I've ever seen. He used his stick as a weapon and didn't care how badly he cut or hurt the other player. I like him and don't judge him though, because when he entered the league in 46 that was the status quo.

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Biggest Steal(s) of the draft: Bernie Geoffrion, dont know why he gets taken after Kurri and Charlie Coancher
Biggest Reach(es) of the draft: Konstantinov, its just too soon for him and I loved the guy! HM: Laraque and Högosta.
Smartest/best strategic pick in the draft: hmm... VanIs double drafting of Weiland & Aurie
Biggest blunder selection of the draft: Drafting Laraque.. I mean wtf?
A Player finally getting respect in the draft: No idea
A player always taken too high, finally getting picked where he should in the draft: No idea
A player you've discovered in this draft: Didnt really discover anyone per se.
Most underrated player taken: In my experience, euros, specially those who are claimed to be soft and one dimensional or the ones that didnt play much or at all in the NHL.
Most overrated player taken: Most modern players...
Favorite scoring line of the draft: Michel Goulet - Wayne Gretzky - Bernie Geoffrion
Favorite checking line of the draft: Herbie Lewis - Cooney Weiland - Larry Aurie
Best assembled line of the draft: Aurele Joliat - Howie Morenz - Jack Walker
Worst assembled line of the draft: Metz - Malkin - Mayorov
Favorite pairing of defensemen: Hod Stuart - Earl Seibert
Most puzzling pairing of defensemen: Kelly - Grant
Team in the other conference it'd be interesting to meet in the finals: Velos or Overpass teams are intresting to me
Team in the other conference you wouldn't want to meet in the finals: I wouldnt want to meet their teams tho

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Biggest blunder selection of the draft: Drafting Laraque.. I mean wtf?
Lol...the 25th round is pretty much always a gong show in the draft. We didn't even have a 25th round in the past and I think a lot of GMs just don't care that much about their 4th spare. I think Laraque might end up with more PIMS than TOI in the season, though as the team doesn't otherwise have a "true heavyweight", I do see the logic in having him around, and am not planning to drop him.

I don't think any 25th rounder can really be called a "blunder", though, simply because they are almost completely insignificant.

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Lol...the 25th round is pretty much always a gong show in the draft. We didn't even have a 25th round in the past and I think a lot of GMs just don't care that much about their 4th spare. I think Laraque might end up with more PIMS than TOI in the season, though as the team doesn't otherwise have a "true heavyweight", I do see the logic in having him around, and am not planning to drop him.

I don't think any 25th rounder can really be called a "blunder", though, simply because they are almost completely insignificant.
The way the 25th round has gone since we added it... I certainly wouldn't mind getting rid of it next time. Then you don't have the awkwardness an odd number of rounds for a snake draft too.

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The way the 25th round has gone since we added it... I certainly wouldn't mind getting rid of it next time. Then you don't have the awkwardness an odd number of rounds for a snake draft too.
It would return some value to multi-positional spares, though that would further encourage GMs to list every spare drafted as an F/D like we had for a little while this year. I dunno, I find the 25th round entertaining in a certain spastic sense.

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Biggest Steal(s) of the draft: Bill Cowley
Biggest Reach(es) of the draft: Scott Stevens
Smartest/best strategic pick in the draft: Camille Henry as a PP specialist
Biggest blunder selection of the draft: Benny Woit
A Player finally getting respect in the draft: Sweeney Schriner.
A player always taken too high, finally getting picked where he should in the draft: Joe Malone
A player you've discovered in this draft: Noone really
Most underrated player taken: Dan Bain
Most overrated player taken: Esa Tikkanen
Favorite scoring line of the draft: Goulet-Gretzky-Geoffrion.
Favorite checking line of the draft: Gainey - Carbonneau - Schmautz
Best assembled line of the draft: Robitaille-Dionne-Howe
Worst assembled line of the draft: Metz-Malkin-Mayorov
Favorite pairing of defensemen: Langway - Robinson
Most puzzling pairing of defensemen: Burrows-Green
Team in the other conference it'd be interesting to meet in the finals: Trail Smoke Eaters
Team in the other conference you wouldn't want to meet in the finals: Pittsburgh Bankers
A funny/dramatic story (related to the ATD) you've learned about since the start of the draft: None really

Best selection: You cannot vote for players you own

1st round: Hull
2nd round: Bossy
3rd round: Malone
4th round: Johnson
5th round: Cowley
6th round: Schriner
7th round: Stanley
8th round: Hossa
9th round: Hollett
10th round: Ramage
11th round: Dave Taylor
12nd round: Drillon
13th round: Bergman
14th round: Turgeon
15th round: Marleau
16th round: Nicholls
17th round: Bridgman
18th round: Vachon (Lots of good picks this round)
19th round: Houle
20th round: Connell
21st round: Patrick
22nd round: Broten
23th round: Kubina
24th round: Whitney
25th round: Lindmark

'Worst' Selection

1st round: Stevens
2nd round: Mahovlich
3rd round: Crosby
4th round: Broadbent
5th round: Malkin
6th round: Gillies
7th round: Krutov
8th round: Tikkanen
9th round: Nieuwendyk
10th round: Clark
11th round: Weber
12nd round: Stamkos
13th round: Madden
14th round: Linden
15th round: Keith
16th round: Draper
17th round: Miller
18th round: Markov
19th round: Huddy
20th round: Liba
21st round: Holmstrom
22nd round: Fleury
23th round: Karlsson
24th round: Sejba
25th round: Woit

Final Thoughts: Great draft this year by everyone, best of luck to all GM's.

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Lol...the 25th round is pretty much always a gong show in the draft. We didn't even have a 25th round in the past and I think a lot of GMs just don't care that much about their 4th spare. I think Laraque might end up with more PIMS than TOI in the season, though as the team doesn't otherwise have a "true heavyweight", I do see the logic in having him around, and am not planning to drop him.

I don't think any 25th rounder can really be called a "blunder", though, simply because they are almost completely insignificant.
There are tons of heavyweights that can do a better job as both a hockey player and an enforcer than Laraque. For example, Overpass nabbed a much better player in the same round in Marty McSorley. Most of the picks in the 25th round might not have been great but most of them were atleast MLD level players, Laraque might be useful in the single-A draft.

McSorely at this level will most likely beat up laraque, outscore him and then play better defense than him.

and I dont like this argument that "hes a spare so it doesnt matter", no player is insignificant during a real NHL season so why would they be here. Real NHL teams that lacks depth usually dont do that well specially not if someone gets injured.

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There are tons of heavyweights that can do a better job as both a hockey player and an enforcer than Laraque. For example, Overpass nabbed a much better player in the same round in Marty McSorley. Most of the picks in the 25th round might not have been great but most of them were atleast MLD level players, Laraque might be useful in the single-A draft.

McSorely at this level will most likely beat up laraque, outscore him and then play better defense than him.

and I dont like this argument that "hes a spare so it doesnt matter", no player is insignificant during a real NHL season so why would they be here. Real NHL teams that lacks depth usually dont do that well specially not if someone gets injured.
Wow...you've got really strong feelings about Georges Laraque. I think you're just mad that you didn't get him:


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Dang, was Gillies really that poor of a selection in the 6th? Would love to hear from someone on why.

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Wow...you've got really strong feelings about Georges Laraque. I think you're just mad that you didn't get him:

Not strong feeling at all but he definitly stands out of all the picks imo.

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